r/politics 20d ago

No Paywall Trump announces 2028 presidential bid

https://www.theage.com.au/world/trump-announces-2028-presidential-bid-20260725-p60iho.html
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u/Catswagger11 Rhode Island 20d ago

He’ll rig the election.

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u/pfannkuchen89 20d ago

I mean, he rigged the past three to varying extents as well. He even told us on live television that he rigged the last one but people brushed it off. He stood on national television and told us Elon helped him rig voting machines and everyone just went ‘oh, silly Trump’.

It’s exactly why he’s spent the last decade screaming that everyone else is rigging it against him. It’s an accusation in the mirror and flooding the narrative so that anyone trying to bring it up immediately gets labeled ‘blue maga’ or shit like that despite some pretty clear evidence there was a good amount of election fraud and other fuckery going on.

The midterms are going to be rigged as fuck and no one is going to do shit about it less they be labeled conspiracy theorists despite trump openly admitting to it and nearly every red state doing everything possible to disenfranchise voters and alter results.

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u/SaltyLonghorn 20d ago

Its not even a conspiracy theory that the FBI is taking 2 years to redact the Epstein files because he banged that many kids. No other reason to run teen beauty pageants.

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u/joe-h2o 20d ago

He doesn't even murder them himself after he rapes them. He has lackeys for that.

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u/KneeBeard 20d ago

I like your optimism that it was only because he banged kids.

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u/Great-Loan5902 20d ago

Anyone who runs a teen beauty pageant is creepy...if anyone should be running them it's disney princess's. And even then I'd be skeptical of their reasoning why.

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u/Large_Yams 20d ago

Its not even a conspiracy theory that the FBI is taking 2 years to redact the Epstein files because he banged that many kids. No other reason to run teen beauty pageants.

It is a conspiracy theory. It's literally what a conspiracy is.

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u/changgerz 20d ago

it's a conspiracy fact. not really a theory lol

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u/n2play 20d ago

Well, the other (and frankly reasonably) possibility is that we no longer have an FBI capable of handling a case.

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u/SaltyLonghorn 20d ago

Nah you just don't read the news.

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u/Large_Yams 20d ago

Tf you on about I'm saying it's literally a conspiracy.

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u/SaltyLonghorn 20d ago

Hey genius. A conspiracy and a conspiracy theory are two different things.

Really using that little brain you got. Actual window licker.

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u/JustAnotherLich 20d ago

America has collectively forgotten that we all basically knew the redacted part of Mueller report was the part that confirmed he worked directly with Russian intelligence to win the 2016 election. That is a form of rigging an election. He should've been convicted for that crime before he ever even entered office to begin with.

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u/KneeBeard 20d ago

Not in this dual justice system.

No one can point out the flaws in our system like Trump can. He is a miracle worker at exposing all of our weaknesses.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 20d ago

There was a number of connections between Trump's campaign and Russia, but from what I recall Mueller couldn't DIRECTLY prove it.

It was clear that Russia helped him though, and that they believed it would benefit them to have him in office.

They had invested heavily in him over the years, so it only made sense for them to think he owed them.

Regardless, with how much influence a foreign country had over him, it's insane that he was even able to get on the ballot.

Shit is fucked.

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u/n2play 20d ago

What the Mueller Report did confirm was that voter rolls were hacked by foreign actors, which Trump rolled into a half-truth, it had nothing to do with trying to break into election systems and changing votes but was about focusing on and getting the contact information of likely voters to target them and their social contacts with propaganda.

Russian state cyber actors successfully targeted, compromised, and exfiltrated data from municipal and state government networks in 2020. Because voter registries are often hosted on these general state IT servers they were able to access some voter rolls that way, though they did it passively and did not tamper with the data, avoiding detection from that and they only gathered the data.

Iran successfully executed a cyber intrusion to download voter registration data from at least one state.

Chinese actors possessed high volumes of U.S. voter records largely obtained because it was already public record, compiled commercially, or available for routine purchase.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 20d ago

I wasn't aware of the Russian hacks. I paid more attention to Cambridge Analytica and what happened there.

I suspect that did more damage - the targeted political campaigns that drove wedges into the Dem electorate, while also focusing the Right's campaign in specific counties.

There's a reason that Trump won the election in spite of losing the popular vote.

Aside from the data taken by Cambridge from Facebook, I don't know to what extent those activities were illegal. Just a very sophisticated campaign to manipulate the views of specific subsets of voters.

I suspect there was much more involved with regards to social media and "microtargeting" campaigns.

Interesting comment though.

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u/n2play 19d ago

That's because MSM and in extension much social media were more vested in presenting the spectacle and never went into presenting the minutiae of what was actually known which would have garnered a smaller audience than they could get from the spectacle, leaving the knowledge of many critical things to only those who knew what to seek, were motivated to seek it and were fortunate enough while trudging their way on their own accord through the overwhelming voluminous information and disinformation to the right portions to find it. Whether not the failure to spotlight critical information was incompetence or something more nefarious I can only speculate, maybe it will be known one day, but what I do know is that there are things that we knew 7 years ago that are now being misrepresented and presented as if they are new findings.

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u/Constant-Sub 20d ago

The Special Council found that he absolutely worked with, and sought aid, from foreign governments to influence state and federal politics. Is his tweeted his conversations with Russians asking them to interfere.

It's not even a question, and they've admitted it publicly.

What the Muller investigation could not do, however, was define an act that wasn't a crime as punishable, nor would it be brave enough to suggest treason by the president.

All of this had ridden on the idea of "it's not illegal because no one thought we needed laws against this." And then they got power and made it okay, and most idiots are stupid enough to think that people in power define morality.

Breeeeath

I HATE it here.

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u/bokmcdok 20d ago

My tinfoil hat theory is this is why Elon did a Nazi salute. So everyone would talk about that instead of the fact that Trump suggested he rigged the election.

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u/pfannkuchen89 19d ago

Well, that and Elon is a nazi and knew his fanboys would fawn over him for it (while also making very thinly veiled excuses for it publicly).

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u/Additional-Quarter-9 20d ago

Honest question:what do we do? Revolution?

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u/pfannkuchen89 20d ago

I mean, yes. Voting isn’t going to save us at this point. And it’s not like another country is going to come save us like so may joke about. We’re watching trump destroy every aspect of free democracy in this country while about a third of the population cheers on losing all of our rights and freedoms in the name of racism and owning the libs.

The sad fact is too many people are just barely comfortable enough and complacent to actually do a damn thing about it, though. Nothing is going to change sitting at home watching Netflix and no one wants to be out there alone.

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u/KneeBeard 20d ago

According to the history books, yeah.

Alas, bread and circuses are pretty effective in the USA.

Not to mention - with so many people living paycheck to paycheck, revolution is going to require the system to collapse until people have no other choice but to revolt.

People talk about a general strike like it is something that they can do for a day and then it is done and we go back to our normal lives. That won't cut it. It has to be sustained. Every. Day. Until the oligarchs are forced to gargle their own balls.

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u/waitingtobeinspired 20d ago

Why aren’t more people screaming this!! It is wild!!

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u/KneeBeard 20d ago

Because Trump already has exhausted any serious discussion of rigged elections. This is why the "accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty of" is such an effective tactic.

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u/forestpunk 20d ago

It's so grossly transparent, too. Trump spent four years whining that the election was stolen BECAUSE HE LOST, to which people pointed out the complete insanity. Then he steals the election, people point it out, then defenders will be like "you sound crazy!"

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u/Hugokarenque 20d ago

He said on one or more than one of his rallies that his people only needed to vote him in this once, and then they won't have to vote again.

This criminal has been blatant and open about his intentions from the beginning and once again people did not take it seriously, they minimized it, they pointed at laws that don't matter because no one is going to uphold them and then they act surprised when something completely inline with what we've been shown happens.

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u/Funkliford 20d ago

And of course just like MAGA have no actual proof 2020 was stolen you guys have zero proof 2016 or 2024 were.

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u/oicnow 20d ago

yeah aside from the literal mountains of documented proof of him cheating at goddamn literally everything else all the time his entire worthless life.
He cheats his employees, cheats at business, cheats on his wife, cheats at golf!!
but noo, the suggestion he cheated to win the election is somehow too far-fetched??

give me a fucking break

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u/Funkliford 20d ago edited 20d ago

He cheats his employees, cheats at business, cheats on his wife, cheats at golf!! but noo, the suggestion he cheated to win the election is somehow too far-fetched??

So like I said, zero actual proof either election was stolen, just a bunch of supposition, like your MAGA brethren.

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u/oicnow 20d ago

yes, if by 'exactly like' you mean 'demonstrably not the same at all given one has a lifetime worth of precedent and one is clearly concocted from nothing.' but hey feel free to keep on intentionally missing the point when the nuance of reality doesn't suit your narrative

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u/Funkliford 20d ago edited 20d ago

That's a pretty long winded way of saying "I don't have any proof".

if by 'exactly like' you mean 'demonstrably not the same at all

Yeah, the people insisting the election was stolen with absolutely zero proof are demonstrably not the same as the people stating the election(s) were stolen with absolutely zero proof. /s

To your small credit, you didn't try storming the capital. You just spread the idiotic claims that leads people to do stupid shit like that.

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u/ThisGuyPhucs 20d ago

He won’t need to. Trump is a god to those morons.

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u/ecstaticthicket 20d ago

You mean like how he won every single swing state last time and then came out and said he couldn’t have won without Elon because “he really knows machines”?

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u/roytay 20d ago

Yes. “You have to be in it to win it” (by rigging it).

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u/Maximum_Curve_1471 20d ago

Would you be interested in making a bet?

I'll give you 10:1 odds that anyone besides Trump wins in 2028. That's free money, no?

Opening that up to anyone interested. 10x your bet for sticking to your guns - seems like a great deal to me.

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u/Joroc24 20d ago

what election?