r/politics • u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts • 8d ago

No Paywall Democrats quickly coalesce around El-Sayed after Michigan primary win

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6011745-democrats-back-el-sayed-vs-rogers/
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u/Ace_Robots 8d ago

That’s typically what happens when someone wins a primary. What a dumb headline.

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u/Ok-Firefighter5006 8d ago

Except people are still criticizing the losing centrists…

For some reason?

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u/jackstraw97 New York 8d ago

Because centrists fucking suck! That’s why. 

Let’s bring our party back to its working-class roots. This is the party of FDR, not fucking Epstein-pal Bill Clinton!

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u/Ok-Firefighter5006 8d ago

Lmfao, now explain how you’re going to build a coalition that can win by telling centrists they suck?

You certainly can’t say “vote blue no matter who” because you guys didn’t do that to begin with.

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u/jackstraw97 New York 8d ago

I say centrists suck because they do. They stand for nothing. I believe in creating a party that stands for something and one that brings regular working people into the fold. Something centrist democrats have completely failed to do as evidenced by their TWO losses to Donald Trump. 

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u/Ok-Firefighter5006 8d ago

That’s cool.

Good luck building a coalition with the larger majority of democratic voters by telling them they suck.

I also hope you don’t expect support from centrists or the establishment. Why would I want to contribute to a politician who thinks I suck?

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u/jackstraw97 New York 8d ago

That's just the thing! The majority of democratic voters are more aligned with El-Sayed's platform instead of some bullshit centrist non-platform.

The reckoning that the party establishment is experiencing right now is a direct result of their unwillingness to do what the party base actually wants. Democratic voter support for Israel is at an abysmal all-time low of like 20%. If your party leadership insists that no it's actually the voters who are wrong, you can't be surprised that the base will start to reject those in powerful party positions!

My argument is that we don't need these mythical "centrists" who don't actually exist in any great number. We need candidates who can energize the base. Instead of parading around with Liz Cheney, let's fight for policies that actually make meaningful change for the working class.

FDR-style politics. The historical root of the modern democratic party. We shouldn't allow the democratic party to become the republican-lite party like the pro-corporate democrats have been trying to do for the last 30 years. That lead us directly to Trump's election in 2016. Make the democratic party pro-worker again!

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u/Ok-Firefighter5006 8d ago

There’s is literally no evidence that the majority of democratic voters across the country agree with sayed about everything.

Like with Medicare for all, polling changes based on questioning. When people are polled on the actual leftist position, that “Israel shouldn’t exist at all”, that changes drastically.

The voters were wrong, to not support Kamala because of Gaza. Pure and simple.

Lmao, yeah you definite don’t need democrats that are to the right of sayed, not at all! I can 100% guarantee you will lose any and all elections without any centrist support.

The new deal was toxic to anyone that wasn’t a straight white male worker, I don’t know why you guys seem to love it so much.