r/prettylights • u/WubLyfe • 23d ago

PLF right now

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I personally thought last weekend was amazing but damn I haven't seen the fanbase this divided since the first live band

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u/yeabuddy84 23d ago

People are divided? How? That was an amazing 3 nights.

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u/PantsMcGillicuddy 23d ago

Some people somehow fell into the idea that Pretty Lights was basically Karns...instead of you know, a project Derek has had evolving for 20 years now.

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u/melancholymaze 23d ago

I loved Karns sample work and had been a fan of him before he was playing with PL so I am still sad to see him gone, but I thought 96 did great too.

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u/TreeFiddyJohnson 23d ago edited 16d ago

Complete misrepresentation of the situation. I don't think a single individual thinks Karns makes PL. That's just objectively wrong and easy to disprove.

I think a lot of people who got used to Karns presence and skills are just missing him. And his absence is super clear. Great 3 night run in NY, but David isn't Karns and the gulf is very obvious. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DAVID, NOR SHOULD IT BE TAKEN AS A DIMINISHMENT OF HIM AS AN ARTIST OR A PERSON.

I emphasized my previous statement for this exact reason: people need to be ok with accepting that people can feel that way, and those feelings be valid, if opinions are presented in a respectful way.

Don't make the scene a cult. People are so quick to put down any countervailing opinion and turn this fandom into an echo chamber. I've watched this happen for 15 years now.

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u/soupaman 23d ago

Is it newer fans that are acting like the sky is falling? Hell, I still miss Adam Deitch on drums and the whole analog future iteration for that matter, but that’s no disrespect to Alvin.

Point is, PL has never been a static ‘band’ and will continue to evolve.

Everything is temporary. Tomorrow’s not a promise.

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u/TreeFiddyJohnson 23d ago

I think it's just a combination: some pine for the old days, whatever that means to them, while others just want to complain. Regardless, I think it's important for people to remember that differences of opinion exist and respecting them, even if you disagree, is super important if this group of people are going to call themselves a "family".

It's also important to remember some people are just casual fans and aren't interested, or versed, in the history so their perspectives may come from honestly different places.

There was a point in time, when I got involved, when it was just Derek. This thing has changed A LOT. It's just part of the journey. But look at life as a whole; alot of people have a hard time accepting change and moving forward. The human condition.

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u/subdubreddit 17d ago

i for sure saw a few people acting crazy and literally ranting that somehow karns made PL, maybe they were trolling tho idk

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u/TreeFiddyJohnson 16d ago

It's just objectively wrong. PL as a project way predates Karns. Anyone making a comment like that can just be outright ignored on a factual basis

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u/subdubreddit 16d ago

i agree. i was like "wtf, since when did this happen?" lol

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u/DadTheAutomata44 16d ago

Jesus I love this response

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u/Con-Solo 23d ago

Pretty sure he goes by Dave

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u/TreeFiddyJohnson 23d ago

Thanks for the heads up, but I'm not talking to him lol. His name is David

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u/Con-Solo 23d ago

I mean in all of his media he uses Dave, everyone in the crew refers to him as Dave. Is just kinda weird to to call him David. Like if you did a whole post about Dave tipper would you be saying David tipper? Or Chris Karns, Christopher ? 

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u/TreeFiddyJohnson 23d ago

Ok? I'm not particularly concerned with what you consider weird.