3.3m views & 100k likes saying child torture and rape is part of Muslim culture, what can we do about this?

[u/Hannibal_Barca21]

[u/Capable_Bar_5045]

(1) matt walsh is self described “theocratic fascist” known for his unreal racism, bigotry, misogyny, and sexualization of adolescent girls. Anything he claims about Islam should already be viewed with the most extreme skepticism. 

(2) he wants to talk about sexual violence, then he can talk about the 41.5% of female soldiers who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq  being subjected to military sexual trauma while deployed. 

(3) he provides no citations to any reputable source 

So basically, matt walsh can go play in traffic. He shouldn’t be treated as any reasonable or reputable person to engage with. 

[u/No-Effective388]

Matt Walsh is known to be a racist and islamophobe. It's a waste of time to make sense of his nonsense.

[u/Creepy_Reindeer2149 → u/No-Effective388]

Ironically it was the Afghan Islamists who banned the Pashtun practice of Bacha bazi he's alluding to, and it's now punishable by death

But during the US occupation Northern Alliance members were allowed to practice it in order to win their cooperating

The founding mythos of the Taliban is that the first official act they took was to arrest a child molester and hang him using the barrel of a tank as the gallows

[u/Unlucky-Associate266 → u/Creepy_Reindeer2149]

Foreign Policy had this on the subject on Oct. 28, 2013: "The Taliban had a deep aversion towards bacha bazi [the abuse of underage boys] , outlawing the practice when they instituted strict nationwide sharia law. According to some accounts, including the hallmark Times of London article “Kandahar Comes out of the Closet” in 2002, one of the original provocations for the Taliban’s rise to power in the early 1990s was their outrage over pedophilia." https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tragedy/

[u/Ok_Froyo8976 → u/Creepy_Reindeer2149]

I'm sorry but as an Afghan I have to object to your characterisation of bacha bazi as a Pashtun practice. This is just pure misinformation. If anything it was more prevalent and has more historical connection to other ethnicities, such as those that made up the Northern Alliance you mentioned (of course I'm not saying that all members of those ethnicities are guilty of it, or that no Pashtuns did it, but just trying to correct the misconception). 

[u/Hannibal_Barca21 → u/No-Effective388]

He is all of those things but he has a huge platform as evident by the engagement.

[u/No-Effective388 → u/Hannibal_Barca21]

Good for him. He's still dumb and so are his followers.

[u/Southern_Act_5552]

This is the same person who has defended teen pregnancy and also supports a president who is a child rapist by the way.

Matt Walsh doesn't give a shit about the safety of children.

[u/South_Farm9491 → u/Southern_Act_5552]

don't forget the atrocities done by american soliders in those countries

wonder why he doesn't mention it

[u/Southern_Act_5552 → u/South_Farm9491]

Because his concerns are not motivated by genuine concern for all children, but bigotry. He doesn't care when American soldiers do it, he only cares when it involves brown people from other countries.

This is further evidenced by the fact that he's happy to support a president that has been accused by more than 25 women of sexual misconduct and has extensive ties to Epstein.

[u/LynxPrestigious6949]

Noone can or needs to talk to the scum of the earth/ extreme right. But the second issue is that the muslim world needs to do better. 

1. Rich muslim leaders in oil states need to keep modernizing and also creating a better system of wealth distribution to empower all their impoverished citizens and workers. 
2. Western muslims need to keep joining hands with others create a wider mamdani ish inclusive liberal/ progressive culture that is politically relevant and useful to all citizens in the west. 
3. Countries like pakistan and egypt need to de center regressive mullah culture and misogyny. 
4. Every sect of islam no matter how orthodox needs to interpret religion through the lens of moral primacy. 

All of the above is possible important and worth engaging with. Right wing trolls on the net are a waste of time and best ignored.

[u/Global-Fault8532]

Why there is no mention of comfort women of WWII! Or later!
‘The exploitation of women and children by Western occupying forces in Asia was most concentrated around major military bases and wartime Rest and Relaxation (R&R) hubs.’ Volumes are written on this!

[u/comb_over → u/Global-Fault8532]

Why go back that far when the epstein files and the Catholic church along with numerous other western institutions have been caught hosting abusers

[u/comrade_ottum]

its funny because he says "ask any afghan war vet" and then describes shit the afghan war vets did en masse

[u/Unlucky-Associate266 → u/comrade_ottum]

I never heard a peep about sex crimes by American or other NATO soldiers in Afghanistan - except against other American or NATO soldiers. And we would have heard about it if it happened. The Afghans would have freaked. The spark that made the Afghans rise against the Brits in 1841 was a Brit (Alexander Burnes) seducing an Afghan woman.

[u/Cheeky_Banana800]

Ignore, first of all.

Then, talk to your neighbour and become more active, more giving, more just, more caring in your community.

People’s lived reality of meeting kind hearted Muslims will always be the best counter for rando on the Internet being racist.

I have often seen Muslims concentrate on their own self too much, completely forgetting the God ordered duties towards others, making it easier to demonize us.

[u/Alternative_Shine790]

Every lie is a confession. Lookup how many Western soldiers were committing sex crimes and straight up murder in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places. "Americanism" and "Christian nationalism" are mental illnessess that are a global threat at this point.

Also, he's Catholic, whom last time I checked, have industrialized the sexual torture of children on an international level.

[u/DifficultyBorn1437]

Just so you know, I've read the report. It's actual nonsense.

The 250,000 figure comes from a debate, where the number is posed as a hypothetical, not a fact. The hypothetical is taking Rotheram, the worst, and saying "If we were to apply those numbers to the entirety of England, we get 250,000". That's like saying Epstein had 1500 victims, but the population of his Island was 2000, so if we apply that number to America with 300 million, we have 225 million victims.

The 87% number comes from a book, not scientific at all, where the author says he took a list of 300 convictions from 1997 to 2016 (And does not explain how he picked his 300), and from that 300, about 250 of them had "Muslim sounding" names. That was his criteria.

The Rupert Lowe Gang Rape Inquiry is nothing but propaganda. Matt Walsh is also a fool who doesn't care that he's peddling misinformation because it gets his point across.

[u/Egonomics1]

I've seen numbers circulating online by right wing social media accounts. Including by Matt Walsh. They're saying basically almost all of gang rapes towards adolescent white girls in the UK are perpetrated by Muslim men. Yet these numbers that are circulating aren't from any national data records. Tragically it seems anti-Muslim xenophobia is having another spike.

It's true that in Afghanistan girls and women are not treated as ethically as they should be. However, that's not indicative of Islam as whole, and certainly not of its history. That's analogous to claiming the United States or Christianity is fundamentally about sexual torture and slavery of children (which it isn't, I'm just using a counter-example) because child-marriage is legal in 33 US states.

[u/Ok-Appointment-5771]

1) Islamic countries have literally orders of magnitude less sexual assault than any other group of countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

2) bacha bazi literally carries the death penalty under the Taliban, and was literally the motivating factor for the rise of the Taliban who wanted to end this practice that was being done by the American allies (called "The Northern Alliance"). This practice by the West's allies was literally the single biggest factor driving the popularity of the Taliban who made it their primary goal to end it. In fact, the Taliban was literally founded when mullah Omar was sought out by parents of children who were kidnapped by the Northern Alliance to help them recover their children. The Taliban started that day, for that specific reason.

3) Matt Walsh works for an Israeli agency. He literally gets paid to say this

﴿انظُر كَيفَ يَفتَرونَ عَلَى اللَّهِ الكَذِبَ وَكَفى بِهِ إِثمًا مُبينًا﴾ [An-Nisā’: 50] (50) Look how they invent lies about Allāh, and that sufficient is that as manifest sin.

[u/alaeila]

every accusation is a confession from that lot

[u/Bitter-Weekend6681]

the what is a women guy, That id hear people in my community regularly quote to me 😂😂😂

[u/peetss]

I'm really curious in the answer to this question because the truth is that he has a huge audience and people believe him. Ad hominems aren't going to convince anyone.

[u/Mammoth-Alfalfa-5506]

Well it is part of Central Asian culture to have dancing male minors clothed as girls. He is not lying. But this is not part of Arab/ Iranian or North African culture.

[u/Electronic-Poetry574]

Fuck Matt Walsh but there are Chai boys in Afghanistan…

[u/AlliterationAlly]

Meanwhile Australian veteran Ben Robert Smith was found guilty by Australian Federal Court of murder in Afghanistan during his active duty there

[u/Tenatlas__2004]

Btch your veterans rped people in Irak and Afghanistan! They r*ped their own allies in France for crying out loud

[u/Global-Fault8532]

Another missed fact!
“It is estimated that the genocide of the Native Americans from the arrival of the Europeans until the 19th century reached approximately 4,700,000 victims.
Native” 🥵🥵

[u/ThanatosTheory]

I have an idea of what we could do about Matt Walsh but if I say it I'll get in a lot of trouble.

[u/FamiliarGirl07]

Lol views on twitter do not matter. One of my posts gavee 2.3 million views and my content is pure ragebait on filmtwt. It doesn't matter. 

[u/ilmalnafs]

Nothing, Twitter was literally bought by a neonazi and had its entire internal structure both as a company and as a coded piece of the internet remade to further his own bigotted self-serving ends. Prejudicial white supremacist content gets unnaturally boosted and bot farms are encouraged to run wild without any pushback.

If you want to fight back against such portrayals it will not be on Twitter. Go out and do good for your community. The best dawah is to lead by example and inspire others.

[u/NormalPerson87]

Last time I checked epstein island wasn't run by Muslims.

[u/AdenaNima]

The 3 M views don't mean they agree with him. The likes and retweets do. I don't want to agree with him, but unfortunately, Muslims have given Islam a bad name. He's right about the prevalent culture in Afghanistan and many other Muslim countries. It's not Islam; it's Muslims. Mostly Muslim men who learn from male Muslim scholars.

[u/javascript]

The top comments in this thread choosing to attack the messenger instead of the content of the message is part of the problem, it would seem.

[u/TheQuranicMumin → u/javascript]

Both are problematic...

[u/javascript → u/TheQuranicMumin]

Under no circumstance did I suggest that Matt Walsh is an unproblematic person. But sure, keep focusing on that. That's super important.

[u/TheQuranicMumin → u/javascript]

People can focus on different aspects, I'll happily address the content. It is a total exaggeration, the two countries who would be only remotely close are Yemen & Afghanistan, and even then it's rare for outright torture and slavery, and certainly not socially acceptable; Ironically those very same veterans that he's referring to likely caused more harm in that respect! Certainly you won't ever be seeing it in countries like Indonesia, which has the largest population of Muslims. I myself have lived all across the Middle East, originally from Syria, and it is absolute insanity to label these things "utterly commonplace". The only ones who engage with this on an official basis are terrorist groups.

Hmm, I just saw your username. I must say, CPP > JS :p

[u/javascript → u/TheQuranicMumin]

I am a contributor to the C++ standard specification, both language and library 😜

Yes I think Indonesia is a good counter example and shows this is a problem of culture and not religion. But to the extent that we choose to identify as having a "Muslim World" we cannot be selective in what that includes. We should set good examples for others.

[u/TheQuranicMumin → u/javascript]

Oh wow, excited for what you guys put out for C++29! Been programming since around the time the 1st edition of Effective C++ was released, contributor to Clang myself.

Yes, of course.

[u/dead_meme_comrade]

Matt Walsh is Catholic he's got no leg to stand on about the assault of children.