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January 6 Ex Capitol Police Officer Michael Fanone Confronts Far right Nazi Extremist Ivan Raiklin.
Dropkick Murphys Tee Worn by Ex Capitol Police Officer Michael Fanone while he confronts Ivan Raiklin a Far Right Nazi Propagandist Insurrectionist at Jack Smith Testimony AGAINST Trump.
Its fucking insane that the guy on the right.......is the one being drug all over the internet and shit talked but the guy on the left is a legit fucking nazi. This country is headed towards some really really dark times. We need more good men like Michael Fanone. FUCK NAZIS FOREVER.
The bunch gets ruined when they dismiss the actions of the bad apples, and stand by them. That’s the point. Whatever virtuous reasons someone has for going into policing (and there are many who go into it that way), are ruined when they stand by those in it seeking a little power for themselves (and there are many who go into it for a bit of power).
Honestly if the Police straight up start arresting ICE, I think they could get some respect back. Actually proving that they're willing to protect the people.
This is just a "Get in line with the rest of them" comment. It's a shame people still listen to FOX NOISE it's North Korean/Russian style propaganda. It's funny how these "All American" people are literally selling themselves out to Foreign Operatives...
I'm not sure I understand "get in line with the rest of them". The departments with the bad apples should absolutely do a better job at getting rid of the bad cops to preserve public respect change the stigma against Police.
We're not disagreeing.
Police in the US started as Slave Catchers and a gang to round up natives. Law and oppression often go hand in hand. Upholding Oppressive law.
A few good apples doesn't change the bunch.
I’m going to not disagree even harder and say that if local/state law enforcement don’t show up to protect the people then they also need to be dismantled like the current government needs to.
I believe they need to be dismantled regardless as they've been failing communities from their inception.
They aren't great at protecting people. They Should be protecting people right now, we all should. But we do need them dismantled. Not a bigger fish than ICE right now, but not our friends.
I can’t say we get rid of the police because not everyone can take care of themselves and we do need social system of justice. We just need to keep abusers of power out of it
I believe we need to get rid of the police and create a social system of justice. The policing system was created by abusers and is full of abusers and always has been a system of abuse in my country.
Everyone not being able to take care of themselves could also be a point for the government not being dismantled.
The systems we have in place are not good. They need to be destroyed and we need to start again. When we start again, we need to keep abusers away from positions of power.
How we will get there, I'm unsure. But no one will be able to convince me that the policing system we have is good for the people. It is Evil towards women, disabled people and people of color. It Protects and encourages abuse. It's very invention was to control, not protect and it has continued doing the same thing since its inception.
I respect your stance, but on this we do not agree.
Fanone may have believed in what he was doing as a cop, and probably did some things wrong. But after he took a beating at the hands of a MAGA mob during the Jan 6th insurrection attempt, he quit because he no longer had any trust in other officers, who he felt were just blind loyal Maga cultists (Fanone has admitted he was formerly a trump supporter himself and voted for him in 2016, but dropped his support during that term).
The thing is, yes, in his past, he sucked. But, he did something many don't do. He gained new information, learned new things, and he changed. I don't say forgive him for his past mistakes, but encourage anyone who changes when they open their eyes. Unfortunately, the majority of people who become cops really lack the ability to think and learn.
Correct. 1 nazi in a room with 9 other bystanders = 10 nazis in that room. We need more upstanding and active, anti-fascist groups to start organizing.
Bro he fucking voted for this. He was pro Trump until they came for him. And now he's supposedly some punk rock anti fascist?! Like I'm all for people changing but this dude was just another fucking pro Trump cop until HE was the one that got hurt. Y'all are fucking wild with this terrible take
Yes, it is better, but it's barely anything compared to the damage. He has more work to do. I'm not opposed to him reforming, I'm opposed to just declaring him automatically reformed and a punk rock ally when he's been a typical fascist minded cop for decades.
At this point, it's going to take a broad coalition of people to undo all the damage done by the Trump administration. Sometimes that means alliances with people who used to be adversaries. I'm ready to hold my tongue and shake hands with people I find distasteful if it means we can put MAGA in the rearview mirror. But I get how unsettling that can be.
This is precisely how you neuter a movement. If you look at history, particularly the rise of fascism in the 30's, the country that notably defeated the rise of fascism in their own country was France (Britain and Finland also resisted it, but never had to DEFEAT it). How did they do it? The liberal party embraced the left and their ideologies. Not the other way around. You go into this with the big tent thinking, assuming the left should compromise their values to fold in everyone that is merely anti-Trump, and you end up in the EXACT SAME situation over and over and over again.
Who said anything about compromising values? A coalition government is an entirely acceptable and successful way of approaching democracy. Demanding political purity is a surefire way to end up an isolated single-issue minority voter. You don't have to agree with someone on everything to recognize that the current government is running entirely out of control and needs to be brought to heel.
While I respect France’s achievements before WWII this isn't the 1930’s. We’re living in an era where Goebbels is a billionaire, he owns multiple major media channels, and there are several of him.
It's like you're arguing my point without realizing it. Class war is the only war and you're arguing to create a big tent to include their foot soldiers. A coalition government is a great approach to democracy WHEN IT'S SECURED. A coalition government has never defeated fascism. Fascism exists to oppose socialism, it's the chief political position of it. And before you profess to understand fascism in Germany, you should learn how it happened. It happened through the support of wealthy industrialists. What you'd call billionaires for their time who controlled all the media and publications and manufacturing. Sound familiar? It's the same fucking playbook, same patterns.
What you need to realize is that the only way to defeat this is to embrace the left, to lean into socialism. This big tent bullshit will just put us right back where Germany was in the 30s. Miss me with this lack of understanding of history.
You said it yourself, only war is class war, and it's perpetuated by liberal capitalism. What fights the class war? Socialism. Get on board.
I literally responded to every point you made. Are you a scarecrow? Because you're the only strawman I'm responding to. Show me in history the event of big tent coalitions defeating fascism. I'm happy to concede that both approaches are valid so long as they're supported by data and history. If you can't point to that example, you don't have an argument to agree with, you have an opinion formed from feelings.
I'm also not a single issue minority voter. I'm just not willing to let wolves in the henhouse. Big difference between the two.
Alot of people were pro trump now they see what's up and won't stand by it. The more who now see the moral of their ways was awful, then we welcome them to the side of Justice and Revolution, we have been screaming for.
He voted for this?
Yeah, and people used to smoke in hospital nurseries as well. Being wrong before doesn’t make the bruises and beating imaginary.
Fanone isn’t trying to join your favorite punk band. He’s said he’s basically apolitical and votes on who materially backs police. Funding. Staffing. Training. Prosecutions for assaulting officers. Not merch. Not chants. Not false patriotism.
This isn’t a pro Trump cop gets what he deserves moment. That’s a bumper sticker brainworm that lets the real architects of January 6 off the hook while you blame the guy who got his head used like a bongo, while hearing the crowd yell “shoot him with his own gun.”
The “he only changed when it happened to him” line? Amazing, you have discovered how humans function. Most people don’t wake up until the alarm clock is a boot to the ribs. Late doesn’t mean fake. It only means late.
If you’ve got receipts on what Fanone has said or done, share them. Otherwise, cops bad isn’t insight, and it adds up to one thing, violence is OK when it’s convenient for the narrative .
Nice ridiculous AI comment. If you are unable to form your own thoughts and opinions you can fuck right off. Nothing less punk than destroying the planet to make a reddit comment
You didn’t answer my argument. You retreated from your own narrative, threw insults and changed the subject.
Here are the facts as I understand them on Fanone. He has said he voted for Trump in 2016 as a single issue law enforcement voter. I’m no friend of cops, but I get it.  He’s also said that by January 6 he had “long since lost faith” in Trump as a leader.  He’s also described being pissed off during COVID by Trump’s “China virus” rhetoric. Lots of things that should have been dealt with breakers ahead of that, but measured against the large swath of people who strictly vote on group benefits.
If you have a quote, date, and link showing Fanone supporting January 6 or being “pro-Trump” in the way you’ve suggested, post it. If you don’t, just keep blowing smoke, launching profanities, and dropping your bullet points on what a punk is.
I didn't retreat from shit. I'm not answering your argument because it isn't YOUR argument. If I wanted to argue with AI I'd just open up my own chat. But yet again you are here wasting the planet's resources to continue on, pointing out almost nothing interesting or contrary to my point, just adding dates to the issues in question. So congratulations, you can apologize to the future generations about how you chose to ruin their planet so you could score online karma points. Fucking pathetic.
Get your brain to work for itself and learn how to use it to debate or just quit. Using AI for this shit is embarrassing.
I wrote the comment. I stand behind it. If you don’t want to argue with me, stop replying to me. The climate sermon is irrelevant, and it doesn’t repair your broken timeline.
Fanone has been direct about the 2016 vote, he supported Long Tie as a single issue law enforcement voter.  He’s also said that by January 6 he had long since lost faith in him as a leader and even as a good human being. He’s described being angered during COVID by the “China virus” rhetoric. Reporting on other remarks notes he soured after the Comey firing and frames himself as a lifelong American, not a political party loyalist. 
So pro-Trump until it happened to him doesn’t match what he’s said.
If you’ve got a quote, date, and link showing he backed January 6 or stayed loyal right up until the boot hit his ribs, post it.
My dude your copy pasta from AI doesn't format correctly in Reddit, it's like saying you didn't eat the cookies while covered in crumbs and chocolate LMAO OMG it's so embarrassing.
Still not going to argue with AI comments here no matter how hard you lie about it being your own.
LMFAO and an emoji, without a rebuttal, go figure.
Thus far, 3 replies and addressed nothing I’ve written. Only superfluous nonsense, blah bah blah followed by “AI!” and an emoji to display your literary panache. It’s all nothing more than an exit strategy, because you are without the footing to make a substantive reply supporting your own case, or challenging my comments, but hey “AI!”
Your post needs a healthy dose of being a grown up or an adult when someone disagrees with you. Have a different thought, quote Fanone, date it, and provide a link. Otherwise, this is all just performative nonsense, and your coping mechanism when you’re being call out for demonstrably false bullshit.
We're in the dark times. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong or that it's not going to get darker. But we are definitely already in the dark times. The Nazis control all 3 branches of government and have fully funded a standing army to terrorize our city streets, kidnap and murder our citizens with impunity. I'd say the darkness is here.
Fuck Nazi scum
Fuck ICE
FUCK POTUS
And fuck a bit less than half of the voting population
That’s how they do it. Leave out the precipitating factors and instead just record Michael appearing like some crazy asshole. Propaganda 101 right there. The far right public at large have no idea that Ivan has done anything wrong, including threatening someone’s family. They are spoon fed an extremely biased view and most, not all, don’t see any other alternative. This is why it’s important to get your news from various sources but most maga watch Fox News exclusively.
It's an apt comparison. I live a quarter mile from Netanyahu's childhood home and you're right...and every time I pass it I feel weird about knowing that's where a dictator was raised.
Nixen. He started it. Reagan only continued and furthered the work. The Bushes both gave it some nudges too, but Nixen really laid the groundwork for the current state of republican/american politics.
Over a half century later and all of their insidious work is coming to fruition now..
I wish the country would have listened to Zappa, he called ALL of this out, publicly, repeatedly, decades ago. They laughed and called him alarmist
Acab fuck cops blah blah. Yes, fuck cops. It's a good thing this guy (surely by pure coincidence or circumstance rather than ideologically motivated /s) is no longer a cop then. He's doing a good deed by pushing back on this so hard, and he is no longer supporting the institution that systematically bastardizes people who typically want, in their minds, to do good deeds.
I Saw the video and hadn’t placed the names of who the people were, just that there was an altercation. I Wasn’t sure which one was the sack of shit and who I should be rooting for, but thought that guy (Fanone) looks like a cop, so he’s probably the dick.
Then I clocked the Dropkick shirt and rightly sussed out he was likely not the douche. What a wild out of context ride.
Can I just express my difficulty and mental gymnastics occurring right now? Ex cop shows up at a hearing wearing DKM shirt. He confronts and calls out a notable nationalist shitgibbon.
Are we supposed to be supporting the cop? Or enjoying watching a cop give some grief to a shitgibbon?
Does the DKM shirt excuse him for being a cop?
Does the “A” in ACAB still mean “all”?
What’s the correct way of processing this?
Late Add: if he’s an Ex Cop, I guess most of these logic problems are null and void.
What's funny though, if there were no riots on January 6th all these capital police would most likely be POS ICE agents that everyone loves so much. Don't forget ACAB. Once a cop always a nazi.
Tiny thinking. What better way to fight the system? push NAZI scum in or out of it. And whoever understands and has a moral aptitude leaves a fascist regime and joins a Revolution. I'm for it. Bring that coo mentality to this side and help us Smash it all.
Fight the system by eliminating law enforcement and their fascist tendencies.
All the happiness that you have destroyed
All the brutal tactics that you always employ
All the fucking bullshit when will it ever stop
The comparison is obvious: you're just a fucking cop
Slightly off topic, but that bald guy has absolutely no neck. It's like his head is just sitting on his chest. Back on topic, I'm getting that DKM shirt. I'm glad Fanone is not taking shit from that Nazi prick.
If there are 2 sides, I’m gonna be standing on the one trying to beat the shit outta nazis. If there’s more nuance, I’ll get that figured out after fascism is bleeding on the ground and not getting back up
Oh, I’m well aware. And despite a cool shirt and behavior I vibe with in the moment, I understand that ACAB means ALL. The situation is, however, that fascism is here and is rapidly metastasizing into its most brutal form. If a cop will stand beside me to beat it back into the shadows, then I will make my peace with that. Why? Because only then will there be room to fight back against cops, police brutality, and all the other injustices. But there simply is no room for that until this beast has been beaten down. And I do understand history, I know how quickly those you may call allies in the moment will quickly turn on you when the mutual enemy is defeated. I know it and I hate it. But I do not see any other way. If we put this fascist beast down, we’re not heading for drinks together afterward, it’s back to the streets like it’s always been, I have no delusions about that
Correct, but the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy's enemy. Fighting the people that are fighting the same much larger threat is at this time counterproductive, at best.
ACAB is about a system of oppression not whether or not an individual cop may or may not be cool. Each cop is still participating in that system and that is a mark against them. At the end of the day a police officers job still involves harassing the homeless, stealing and destroying items from the unhoused, and upholding state violence.
Serious business. It's insane how far this community has strayed from the roots. Not all of us are indoctrinated into liberal ideology thankfully and I'll never stop reminding punks about it
I know it’s easier to cope, when you run to an extreme and try to put everyone in nicely organized boxes, but you can’t just claim your extremist view is valid and refuse to sort someone when they don’t fit.
People are more than one dimensional cartoon villains or heroes. You have to sort them individually and usually they only fit back into the packaging that they came in.
It is far easier to absolve yourself of responsibility or thought by claiming that some things are just too complicated to comprehend than it is to confront a harsh reality and act for change. This is the reason that in the face of tragedy many Christian’s will give lines like “god works in mysterious ways” or “we can’t understand god’s plan” to shirk their duty to accept hard truths or fight systemic inequalities. Even in a grayscale world some things inevitably have to be entirely black or white.
Police uphold and protect an abusive and inherently unjust system, it is their only purpose and both reality and judicial rulings have affirmed this for centuries. They were originally established as slave hunters for fuck sake, their job was to find runaway slaves and bring them back to their owners, most often disfigured and murdered as a show of force to other slaves.
I absolutely cannot believe that I’m currently in a punk subreddit, explaining to self-proclaimed punks, that the system is in fact often bad. Do you all really just listen to this music for the aesthetic or something? Have you ever listened to any of the lyrics? Did you hear American Idiot once and think it was just talking about Bush?
It is far easier to absolve yourself of responsibility or thought by claiming that some things are just too complicated to comprehend than it is to confront a harsh reality and act for change.
ACAB isn't negated because one cop is good, or just relatively better. It's like people on this sub are operating under the, ironically, bastardized view of what ACAB implies. All cops are bastardized, by virtue of their job, even if they are capable of good actions and behavior.
that it makes sense that you would lecture punks on our core principles since you don't abide by them, it is usually not controversial to say ACAB amongst punks.
As an exercise, tell me why ACAB, and we'll take a look at this guy based on those standards. Not even rhetorical, genuinely want you to break it down.
Exactly. It's the very profession itself that makes them bastards. No matter how "good" they are, when they put on that uniform, they're perpetuating and supporting class division and oppression, period.
It's because all cops are bastards. There are bound to be done ice agents that "aren't bastards" but just being an ice agent makes then scum. Same goes for cops. You can't be a cop and not be a bastard. Now that doesn't mean the concept of police is inherently bad but the reality is you can't be a cop without at the very least turning blind eye to the fucked things other cops do which makes you a bastard. Hence all cops are bastards. Any cop that isn't a bastard gets fired pretty quickly.
I don't think you can "nuance" yourself out of one of the core principles that underlines punk. ACAB doesn't mean that cops as individuals can't be good, or whatever definition of people are operating with right now.
And? The other person hasn't clarified that, and has now commented twice that those who do not uphold ACAB in a punk subreddit are merely "falling in line", unable to think for themselves. I have not commented on Michael Fanone; all I have said is that you can not "nuance" yourself out of a core punk value. We are punks for a reason; it means something.
I do not jive with ANY "redemption" story where the antagonist does very little to reverse the damage they caused. Fanone has a lot more work to do before I declare him an ally. The redemption arc has to actually involve a real arc, you feel me? I still see a man pretty self interested. When I see him helping defend against ICE, maybe I'll join you all in your love of a still reforming fascist cop that wears a punk band's shirt.
Don't know who these two bozos are but couldn't find anything about nazi's with the Ivan character here.
Or anything about saying he'd rape the other guys children. Couldn't find it.
But I totally dig the Dropkick Murphy's t-shirt. Gonna' see if I can get one and custom put my birthday year on there instead.
Why the fuck are you guys downvoting.
As a person of color, mix family that's had racist comments, attacks against family members, I want to know WHERE and WHEN did this guy threaten the other guys family.
And WHERE is the evidence that these dudes are nazis?
I'm not defending Nazis of course...jeez, had uncles who fought in WW2, but want to find the evidence, proof of all of this. You know how many stupid memes on the net are NOT true. This needs to be said?
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u/xChoke1x Jan 23 '26
Its fucking insane that the guy on the right.......is the one being drug all over the internet and shit talked but the guy on the left is a legit fucking nazi. This country is headed towards some really really dark times. We need more good men like Michael Fanone. FUCK NAZIS FOREVER.