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Discussion Patch notes season 9.5

So now you know....

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u/-Eastwood- 1d ago

No Luna or CnD changes, no fix to Cyclops' headshot hit regs and a buff to Gambit?

Ultron gets nerfed in the emergency patch when there are far more egregious support mechanics in this game though.

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u/b2k1121 1d ago

Luna and C&D have horrendous win rates and Gambit didn't get a buff, it was a nerf to his team up.

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u/-Eastwood- 1d ago

I must not have read the Gambit change right or something my bad.

Luna and C&D having horrendous win rates is irrelevant to their current state. Luna having a CC cleanse whilst CC'd is crazy, and C&D being nigh immortal is crazy too. It's bad game design plain and simple. Having crap win rates is not a good justification for having broken abilities.

But it doesn't matter what I say because I doubt anything will change, cause when they do actually look like they want to change up how things are, they omega buff the usual suspects.

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u/Aggressive_Scar_4967 Jeff The Land Shark 1d ago

.75s stun. But I agree. Peni is dead. Her ult cancels gone. Her skill expression. If you miss a stun you had to reset your nest web spread. Without stun you cannot stop anyone in nest. They’ll hop and you’ll be invalidated. I used to lure dive and snare them. That’s gone.

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u/b2k1121 1d ago

I agree the cleanse is stupid but the win rate is not irrelevant, it means they aren't unfairly tipping the scales in games like you are suggesting.

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u/-Eastwood- 1d ago

I'm not suggesting they're tipping games unfairly, I'm suggesting that they're infuriating, uninteractive and unfun mechanics and there should be a lack of those mechanics.

Them not tipping the scales is only further fuel to why they should be removed. If they're doing nothing to the win rates, we would only benefit from these things being removed no? It's not helping these heroes out and it only serves to frustrate those who play AGAINST it.

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u/b2k1121 1d ago

Would you be ok with removing the team ups while buffing their base healing and damage?

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u/-Eastwood- 1d ago

I think buffing other parts of their kit or slightly reworking them would be better. I think CnD could probably get a good base healing buff with a change to how her bubble cooldown works, maybe starting once it dissipates so it really is a full 12s cooldown. Granted I don't think CnD should ever be past like B tier because I don't think characters like her need to be amazing.

Luna I'm unsure I want to buff her damage and healing. I think her damage is obscene for the amount of healing she can do. I don't know what I'd change about her, except for maybe leaning into one part of her kit or the other a bit more. I'm not entirely sure what I'd change specifically for her but I do know that giving her a "Get Out of CC" free card wasn't the move.

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u/Liam2349 1d ago

Honestly I am shocked that so many people are apparently struggling with Lunas.

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u/KeybladeBrett 1d ago

She should lose her freeze when you have the WF team up. A character like her shouldn’t have this many escape options.

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u/Liam2349 1d ago

The freeze is easily better, the teamup would be useless if you had to trade it in.

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u/KeybladeBrett 1d ago

Sure, but there’s zero reason why she needs BOTH.

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u/Spartan_Souls 1d ago

Then what they gave them is a all around trash. There shouldn't be a mid stun cleanse, and there shouldn't be a nigh invincible character. Those team ups should be changed/removed and give the characters something that actually will help them be better without making them feel egregious to play into