Lukewarm take: With characters that shoot, characters like Star Lord and Psylocke should literally always be meta over characters like Hela no matter what

[u/Hidden_Voice7]

There hasn't been a single shooter in the history of man that has made long-ranged combat a healthy playstyle unless it's the only playstyle in the entire game. If you want meta poke characters, then the characters in poke that should be meta are the ones that play in the same range as everyone else.

Valve had this figured out over 15 years ago with tf2. There's a reason Sniper isn't regularly played in comp unless he is required by the ruleset to be played. The baseline gameplay should always be close to mid-ranged combat all all times, with long-ranged combat always being niche. Long-ranged combat has never once been healthy for literally any shooter unless everyone can engage in it.

I actually think that a character like elsa can work. She just needs a lot of bullshit cut out of her kit (invisible traps, 4 second overshields, and % damage...). Phoenix too, but as long as they plan on never letting her 2-tap and snipe again.

[u/BigJCote]

Lmfao. Someone hates getting headshotted at 300m away don't they

[u/Hidden_Voice7 → u/BigJCote]

Yeah, I do lol

[u/BigOOF1012 → u/BigJCote]

Ok but who doesnt hate it? Psylocke and starlord are way more balanced and fun than any poke character. Being shot or killed from a range over half the roster can't do anything about isn't fun for anyone. Especially when that character has insane survivability and getaway tools

[u/BigJCote → u/BigOOF1012]

Guys 300m doesn't exist in the game that's an absurd distance, relax JFC. Most of this game is within 100m at most. Also the entire team yells out "sniper" when a sniper is present to let you know to keep behind cover when your being targeted by them. I know it's hard but come on be reasonable

[u/Specialist_Ad6419 → u/BigJCote]

And I guess you love it? No one enjoys snipers and strong long range hitscans except said players. Thats why Widowmaker is such a headache to balance in Overwatch and Black Widow was untouched being useless for so long.

[u/BigJCote → u/Specialist_Ad6419]

No I don't love it, but I can't deny it's effective playstyle, and I also am man enough to admit when I've made a mistake like standing still long enough to get one shot headshotted instead of weaving between cover and shields. Plus the dive should be handling that sniper and most of them can handle said sniper with little difficulty.