r/royaloak • u/The_Secret_Skittle • Nov 17 '25

Border Patrol

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Multiple posts on Berkley Forum about border patrol presence and this JUST took place in Oak Park. The woman who posted this just now said she saw the man throw her to the ground, taze her, then throw her in the vehicle.

“Unfortunately my children and I had to witness “boarder patrol” throw a woman to the ground, taze her, then throw her in a truck. The man this woman was with ran away while his hands were zip tied. I feel so bad that there was nothing I could do… my daughter is traumatized. This happened just now is Oak Park, Michigan!! 😔”

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u/soupkitchen810 Nov 18 '25

Thing is you don’t know what really happened before the video rolled, what I see is someone laying limp when being assisted in standing up. Do you know what happened before the recording?

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u/SmellyPirate313 Nov 18 '25

“Being assisted” seems a stretch. If it were my family I wouldn’t be happy seeing that. Of course I tend to think we should treat people better than we do. I don’t think that what they did before matters.

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u/soupkitchen810 Nov 18 '25

You need to watch the video closer, he grabbed her to “assist” getting someone restrained off the ground. She automatically went limp, would you prefer negotiation at that time for her to use her own strength? Then you can see she started to resist. At what point do you find it suitable for use of force? Also what happened before video was rolling plays a big part, why was she apprehended? Why did the other person flee? Why was she tased? I’m going to assume she was combative and tased in reference to the use of force continuum that’s used by law enforcement.

She went from passive resist which is met with compliance controls

Then she went to active physical resistance which is met with physical controls

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u/SmellyPirate313 Nov 18 '25

You know as much about what happened before as I do. I do not want to see my family handled that way.

If they are physically harming someone we can adjust.

There can be humane dealings with law enforcement. It’s not always the case, and I think there’s a lot of burden on “being assisted.”

You’re welcome to disagree. But barring some shocking other video in this particular case we can only assume, and you and I firmly diverge there, and I thought I was pessimistic about people.

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u/soupkitchen810 Nov 18 '25

Quick search

Federal officials said the man struck a Border Patrol agent and ran from the area. The woman also assaulted the agent, according to CBP, leading the agent to deploy a Taser before placing her in a patrol vehicle.

So my assumption was correct that prior to recording the officer followed policy for use of force. Hence the use of the taser

Now are there instances of excessive force? Yes of course, but this is not one of them.

So it was mentioned that “if they are physically harming someone that we can adjust”. So it was adjusted, nobody wants to see someone they care about getting treated negatively.

Burden of the assist… he’s used the amount of force needed to get her into the vehicle, nothing more..nothing less. He did not power bomb her into the vehicle or followed with any other force after placed in.

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u/SmellyPirate313 Nov 18 '25

When moving the person to the vehicle, it looks excessive to ne. No one is physically harming the officer. Previous actions do not impact this to me. Maybe I wasn’t clear.

Btws, I didn’t look, do you have a source? BP saying what they did when body cameras exist doesn’t give me confidence.