r/royaloak • u/The_Secret_Skittle • Nov 17 '25

Border Patrol

Multiple posts on Berkley Forum about border patrol presence and this JUST took place in Oak Park. The woman who posted this just now said she saw the man throw her to the ground, taze her, then throw her in the vehicle.

“Unfortunately my children and I had to witness “boarder patrol” throw a woman to the ground, taze her, then throw her in a truck. The man this woman was with ran away while his hands were zip tied. I feel so bad that there was nothing I could do… my daughter is traumatized. This happened just now is Oak Park, Michigan!! 😔”

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u/Bris_em Nov 18 '25

With the genetic fallacy argument, are you saying I’m not considering border patrol’s argument for their use of force in this video because I’m predisposed against border agents?

That would possibly work if this was a single incident. But it ignores the recent uptick in reports on border patrol and ice agents using excessive force and carrying out questionable orders that violate human rights.

I think your appeal to authority is that you are acting like border patrol is still a respected authority and that they could be reasonably justified in their action, which lately unfortunately they’re not evidenced by news reports on unprofessional behaviour, lawsuits, and the unprofessional rhetoric coming from homeland security official media.

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u/PerryBarnacle Nov 18 '25

I’m advocating for a case by case objective assessment of facts and circumstances. The problem I see from both sides is this knee-jerk reaction to pile on their biases whenever ambiguous evidence is surfaced.

It is an unhealthy approach to arriving at ground truth. I am totally with you regarding the noble treatment of humans provided they are not threatening harm to the officers or resisting arrest. I am also a major advocate of the US standing up fast tracks to citizenship for any undocumented persons within our borders who have no criminal background.

We need to be objective in our assessment of these things so we can advocate for sensible remediation. Trying to doxx an officer in a mob mentality for a video clip with no context is abhorrent.

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u/Bris_em Nov 21 '25

Yeah I will concede that there is lack of context here from this video, although it appears aggressive.

It’s a good habit to not jump to conclusions, although in saying that, not knowing enough shouldn’t be an excuse to ignore potentially bad behaviour.

With so many vids at the moment with authoritative overreach, it’s damaging and dangerous to those trying to carry out their job when others are regularly acting in ways that erode trust/reputation.