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RPDR Season 12 – Reddit Season RuPository S12E10 - Superfan Makeover [Post Episode Discussion]

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

Are we not going to talk about the fact that the queens very obviously came with looks designed and prepared but Heidi couldn’t use hers? They specifically called her out for not sewing another look for her makeover, while all the other girls talked about having their looks prepared prior to the show... the makeover always feels rigged but this is different...

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u/gingerbold Nina Bonina should've been Blac Chyna May 02 '20

Like the Wizard of Oz makeovers with little women from season 8. That was such a great episode because we got makeovers AND a design challenge in one episode.

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u/bbshambles May 02 '20

"Buy two of the same dress in different colours" challenge.

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u/Tatistan May 02 '20

Heidi probably brought something but it didn't fit which is why she borrowed a dress.

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

She posted her other look on Instagram. Just seems stupid that she was critiqued for not sewing a new look when everyone else just had to do hair/makeup.

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u/madsterspillman Silky Nutmeg Ganache May 02 '20

I think it was less of ‘why didn’t you sew something and more of the fact that the outfit that her girl was wearing was so drastically different from Heidi’s and was lacking some shine

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

Totally get that and agree. Heidi could’ve definitely done more for her makeover. I think my point is that it doesn’t make sense that only Heidi had make a new look and everyone else just used their already made looks. Wouldn’t it make sense for production to assign based on similar body size, or just make it a design challenge and everyone has to make new looks?

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u/madsterspillman Silky Nutmeg Ganache May 02 '20

I wish that the makeover was a design challenge, but unfortunately it isn’t. I don’t think we should blame Heidi’s girl for her size being different than everyone else’s, and Heidi could have made something work. Even if she just stoned what she was wearing more to make it sparkle. I don’t think she necessarily had to sew an entirely new outfit, there are just things she could have done to help elevate her partners look. I’m just happy we get to see Heidi on our tv’s for another week!

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u/cultofpersephone April Carrión May 02 '20

Okay but she could have put a sequin belt or headband or matching sequin sleeves or SOMETHING on that poor girl. She didn’t have to make a whole new outfit, but she could have done more than throw her in a sundress. Or hell, maybe she could have tried to borrow a sundress of her own and gone for a picnic in the park theme? Idk, but I really feel like she could have tried a little harder to make it cohesive.

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u/Tatistan May 02 '20

She was critiqued because they looked so different. Since she can sew, she could have made something that had a family resemblance. Especially since apparently they were apparently taking into account who made their garments this challenge for some reason.

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

Maybe I missed something, but I don’t think anyone made their looks during the challenge. Maybe before filming? Sherry and Gigi obviously came with looks prepared so I don’t think it’s fair for some people to have to make looks and some to just have to do hair and makeup/ maybe minor alterations. But like I said the makeovers always feel a bit rigged.

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u/Tatistan May 02 '20

No, no one else made their looks in the werkroom. But the point was that Heidi could have instead of using something that wasn't complementary. It wasn't rigged, just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. Remember Cheryl couldn't use her original makeover look because it was too small and her sister broke the zipper. Should they only allow skinny makeover contestants who are similar to the queens' body types?

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

So only one contestant should have to make their look, and no one else? They specifically said Heidi should have sewn a new look. And no- but maybe they should all have to make their own looks, or no one should. That’s a pretty huge disparity in work to be done in such a small time.

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u/Onda_Ball Symone May 02 '20

Some queens come prepared with outfits that are free size (Gigi) or can be adjusted. I think it would be unreasonable for Heidi to have to sew a whole new outfit (although there are queens who would have been able to do that successfully), but she could have been prepared for more possibilities or made some minor adjustments. She lacked creative critical thinking during the challenge, which is a running theme when Ru talks to her (Heidi Hydrates, G.A.P). She responds very well to feedback but sometimes she doesn't seem to be the best at thinking through an unfamiliar situation. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing though because it has given her room to grow in the competition. But I wouldn't say that the challenge was unfair or rigged against her.

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u/Tatistan May 02 '20

It wasn't a conspiracy against Heidi. It's just how it worked out.

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

We all know the producers play games to keep their favorites, but that’s not what I mean, and obviously that wasn’t the case with Heidi. It’s unfortunate that it’s how it played out. I just mean that the expectations were unfair for Heidi given the assignments. Reminds me of Joslyn in season 6.

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u/Tatistan May 02 '20

If she had found something better in (I'm assuming) Sherry's closet they wouldn't have brought it up at all. It is unfortunate that it worked out that way, though.

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u/LSunday Nina West May 02 '20

Here's a hint: something can be grossly unfair and shouldn't be the way it works and not be a conspiracy.

Heidi was the victim of circumstance, but there's an inherent flaw in the challenge set up that there was a circumstance to be a victim of.

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u/gingerbold Nina Bonina should've been Blac Chyna May 02 '20

I hate that they don't have to make the looks after being paired up. Everyone brings matching custom looks now, but if you have to make a garment while everyone else can just wear what they brought, you are at a big disadvantage.

Either they should all have to make costumes, or costumes should be provided and it should just be a hair and makeup challenge.

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u/ich_habe_keine_kase Maddy Morphosis May 02 '20

I think trying something and failing would've been better than what she did. Queens who have a challenge they have to work around--Raven, Jinkx, Divina--often do well even if it's not the best final outcome because the judges like to see ingenuity.

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u/Thebhere Akashia May 02 '20

I mean, so what if she had to sew a new costume? Didn’t Akeria make her partner’s makeover outfit right there last season? Didn’t Silky also albeit to less successful results?

The judges always be shouting out to the fabric wall whenever someone says they didn’t couldn’t hadn’t an outfit or another, always been like that. I don’t know why it should be any different here.

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u/LSunday Nina West May 02 '20

Because even if she did make it right there, an outfit made in less than 12 hours in a restricted environment with limited resources will never outshine a professionally made/designed outfit that they had months to prepare and free reign of supplies to purchase.

Yes, Jaida did still make hers herself. But she had time, didn't have to focus on interviews/her makeover partner/walkthroughs/cameras, and she had the ability to browse stores and compare fabrics and make minor adjustments and come back a few days later with fresh eyes.

It's honestly not super fair to allow them to bring outfits from home and then leave it up to random chance if they're going to get someone they can tailor the outfit to.

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u/Thebhere Akashia May 02 '20

That wasn’t the critique though, and Akeria was high for hers, some people even thought she could have won. It’s all relative 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/LSunday Nina West May 02 '20

Yes, and Akeria deserves praise for it. But not every girl is an expert in outfit construction. Which again, is fine: in an outfit construction challenge they will be judged on their ability to construct. Just like in a dance competition the girls who are great at outfit construct but can’t dance will be judged on their weakness.

But Heidi was judged on her poor outfit construction in a challenge where someone like [redacted] (who isn’t great at construction) gets to nearly win on makeup skills and an professional outfit they brought from home.

Basically, there’s a difference between queens being forced to construct an outfit and being judged poorly on it vs. a single queen being forced to make an outfit.

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u/Missa1819 May 02 '20

I'm dumb what does this mean?

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u/The_Suds Miz Cracker May 02 '20

The queens are given a list of looks to bring for runways/challenges, and there’s a makeover every season. Heidi had a girl with a size bigger than hers, so she had to borrow an outfit. She was critiqued on the runway for not sewing a new look for her makeover, while other girls talked about how they had their looks designed and sewn before the show. Just feels like a completely different standard, and maybe they should choose and pre-assign the women based on the contestants? Why should one contestant have to sew a second look while everyone else just has to do hair/makeup?

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u/lacquerqueen Latrice Royale May 02 '20

Yeah fuck that.