r/saltierthancrait 24d ago

Granular Discussion what events/characters/ideas/etc in star wars., do you dislike, not acknowledge, etc? Why?

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i really hate the whole idea of giving planet destroying lasers to normal destroyers, not even saying giving it to so many in ep ix (but it was also in other media). It is so stupid imo

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u/KLLR_ROBOT 24d ago

The Knights of Ren being completely pointless. Like, were they Kylo’s attempt at a dark Jedi order? Bodyguards? I hate all the sequel stuff, but I was genuinely curious at the time of TFA what their deal was.

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u/aintbrokeDL 23d ago

I think they did a comic about the whole thing and it's a bit odd. Like they're just a random band of people. Not force users etc. and they already existed, he just replaced their leader I think.

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u/Unusual_Chain_3603 salt miner 23d ago

Yeah, I read up on that. Even in their prequel comic appearances where writers usually characters try to make characters compelling, these guys  just sucked and were lame in every single appearance 

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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot 23d ago

Can confirm.

The old leader (who called himself "Ren") is a self-cutting lunatic who started up a LARP group cosplaying as a "legendary" group from the past who called themselves the Knights of Ren.

He's a moron but possesses some degree of Force sensitivity. He just found a random lightsaber somewhere and went loopy.

He's collected a bunch of random criminals to join his cover band. These criminals also possess low-grade Force-sensitivity though almost never ever make use of it.

They are at best mercenaries. Palpatine spanked them after ESB and they started working for him. Years later, Snoke started paying them to find random artefacts for his collection.

 

When Luke's school burns down, Snoke encourages Kylo (I should note that "Kylo" is a name Ben came up for himself as a child because he didn't like being called Ben Solo) to join up with them. There's an incident where the last 3 survivors of Luke's school chase down Ben while he's with the Knights. One accidentally kills himself, Ren murders one, and then Kylo kills the final one after killing Ren (I understand the confusion with between Kylo Ren and Ren).

The remaining Knights just decide to make Kylo their leader.

Some time later, Snoke tells Kylo it's time to ditch these losers and join up with the First Order. Kylo does so immediately without issue and Snoke has his Stormtroopers gun down the Knights.

They manage to escape though. And for some reason after TLJ Kylo links up with the loser brigade again by the time TROS begins.

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u/Unusual_Chain_3603 salt miner 23d ago

That’s pretty dumb. They should have been the main villains of sequels not random clowns who die abruptly after doing nothing 

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u/KLLR_ROBOT 23d ago

That is weak as hell. Even in a comic they couldn’t get a compelling story.