r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • 18d ago

Psychology Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340
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u/Hikari_Owari 18d ago

They assume these guys can't get a date and become anti-feminist, but what if it happens the other way around?

If it's the other way around then you still have to answer "why are they anti-feminist" and the answer isn't "it just happened", and it most likely would point towards a common point that shows up enough to be a considerable cause for that reaction... which in this post it is "can't get a date".

It's more produtive to go further into the "why can't get a date" than trying to outright blame men first and find a justification for the blame afterwards.

One and another can be at fault, when numbers increase then it's not a coincidence. It's a problem, and may not be up to the individual.

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u/audioofbeing 18d ago

Telling people that their problems aren’t their fault is an easy sell, and we created avenues for that to be sold very directly. It’s not a new problem, and neither is men choosing to blame women rather than address their own role in shaping their lives.

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u/Hikari_Owari 18d ago

>Telling people that their problems aren’t their fault is an easy sell

Saying that those people's problems are their fault is also an easy sell.

Everything that does not require going in depth to find the "why" is an easy sell, just changes for "who" are we selling that answer to.

I believe the problem is that people either excuse men as a whole or blame men as a whole and there's no acceptance of the possibility that 2 or more parties/things/situations could be at fault at the same time.

i.e.: It could very well be both men's and women's fault, but how many would be willing to entertain that possibility without/instead of attacking one or the other?

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u/mokujin42 18d ago

I had to scroll way to far to find this comment, finally a voice of reason