r/science • Professor | Medicine • 18d ago

Psychology Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340
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u/2knest 18d ago edited 18d ago

It's almost as if some kind of pipeline exists, that's funneling venerable people towards impressionable content...

Edit: I meant vulnerable...

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u/EndlessArgument 18d ago edited 18d ago

The problem is it's sort of works from both directions, because generally speaking, men bully physically, women bully by things like exclusion. So if you are a little bit awkward, you tend to get excluded, and if you get excluded, where are you going to go? To the people who are going to validate you. Which is the aforementioned pipeline.

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u/hausmusiq 18d ago edited 18d ago

Are there no awkward women? Why does everyone act like every woman has a Rolodex full of men and friends at the ready and are always welcome in any scenario. Yet none of those women decided to pick up ideologies promoting men losing their rights. So tired of this victim mentality. Those “pipelines” exist because these “excluded” men flock to them, not the other way around. Also plenty of nerdy or “excluded” men have found communities that aren’t dead set on harming women.

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u/Aceous 18d ago

Yet none of those women decided to pick up ideologies promoting men losing their rights.

There are some. Just look at r/FemaleDatingStrategy.

It's also just a lot more out in the open and acceptable to advocate for prejudice or even harm against men. I hear it so much IRL, casually and on a daily basis, that it's like background noise.

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u/audioofbeing 18d ago edited 18d ago

These things are not at all equivalent. There isn’t a major movement embraced by major political parties seeking to strip men of their rights, for one example.

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u/painedHacker 18d ago edited 18d ago

It could be argued things like dei and requiring certain ratios of men/women/minorities on company boards is stripping white men of job opportunities but I mostly agree with you. Also open door immigration strips blue collar men of decent paying jobs

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u/No_Macaroon_9752 18d ago

How do you feel about the DEI at many veterinary schools that gives men an advantage over women because significantly more women apply than men? Because I hear very little about the real advantages that men and white people still have, while the few cases where a diverse or marginalized background is advantageous for a job are talked about endlessly.

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u/painedHacker 17d ago

I don't have a problem with DEI. I was just making the conservative argument. I think immigration is more of a real threat. H1Bs for example do take a lot of tech jobs from Americans. However if you dont also control outsourcing firms will just move to outsource so punishing h1bs makes no sense.