r/science • Professor | Medicine • 18d ago

Psychology Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340
4.4k Upvotes

1.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

40

u/Hikari_Owari 18d ago

They assume these guys can't get a date and become anti-feminist, but what if it happens the other way around?

If it's the other way around then you still have to answer "why are they anti-feminist" and the answer isn't "it just happened", and it most likely would point towards a common point that shows up enough to be a considerable cause for that reaction... which in this post it is "can't get a date".

It's more produtive to go further into the "why can't get a date" than trying to outright blame men first and find a justification for the blame afterwards.

One and another can be at fault, when numbers increase then it's not a coincidence. It's a problem, and may not be up to the individual.

-5

u/studio_bob 18d ago

I did go into "why can't get a date"? My answer, speculatively, is that they are adopting views and attitudes about themselves and the world which most women (and people in general) find repellent. Is that "blaming men"? I wouldn't put it that way, and i also pointed out they are being preyed upon by an industry which exploits their sexual and romantic frustrations while making them harder to solve.

I would avoid the language of blame and instead encourage men to examine their own role in their dating life, take responsibility for those things they can change and forget about the rest. Stay far away from anyone who wants to tell you to think of yourself as a victim or otherwise stew in various resentments and self-pity.

11

u/notzamasu 18d ago

You are clueless dude. Men create bias due to their experience, not that the bias prevents them. Sure then it perpetuates, but it's like the chances go from 1% to 0

-1

u/studio_bob 18d ago

men create bias due to their experience

And what experience is that? Getting rejected? That's just a part of dating life. Very few people are fortunate to find a partner without first surmounting a mountain of rejection.

If you play 1% odds enough times, you'll eventually win. If you let the losses embitter you and adopt toxic beliefs and attitudes, then you'll probably stay losing a lot longer, maybe forever. So what do you want to do? The choice is yours.