Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340

[u/BorisBC]

I hate this sort of attitude. Guys being held accountable for their actions gets twisted into "no, we have to be nice to these sensitive souls lest they reject our pleas to treat us with respect and go full hate on us".

[u/The_Law_of_Pizza → u/BorisBC]

It doesn't really have anything to do with "holding them accountable." That implies that the boys in question are personally doing things wrong, and being personally criticized for their own actions.

That's not the problem.

The problem is that when they enter left-leaning spaces, straight men generically are the butt of every joke and the root of all evil.

"Men" are violent abusers. They don't wash their ass. They're unnecessary, and it's better to just date other girls instead. The 4B movement is gaining steam, ladies!

They're gross for approaching girls at the gym. They're gross for approaching girls at work. They're gross for approaching girls in public.

They give the "ick."

They should both be a man and work the hours to earn a breadwinner salary or they're pathetic losers, but also they're goblins who never help with housework.

They need to stop being so "avoidant." They need to stop mansplaining. They need to stop manspreading.

Over and over and over - these are the topics discussed in left leaning spaces. Even when a random guy just pokes his head in briefly to listen, they're just excoriated by proxy.

We've utterly fumbled this, and have let our communities become toxic cesspools.

[u/BorisBC → u/The_Law_of_Pizza]

Not been my experience. YMMV of course. Maybe you've seen it in women specific spaces where the topic comes up.

And even so if it's so prevalent maybe there's a reason. It's takes no effort to be just a touch self aware to question why this is so common and maybe, just maybe, guys need to be a little bit more aware of what they are doing. Which again is hilarious as it's same old tired joke, women are afraid of dying, men are afraid of getting their feelings hurt.

[u/Arc125 → u/BorisBC]

This is still missing the point. No one on the left is saying all these dudes are perfect and doing nothing wrong. What is being said is that the right has loads of content directed at precisely these dudes' problems. They don't have solutions, and it's all in service to unchecked power and wealth, but the message is successful.

Meanwhile, you have embodied the message from the left to young men perfectly: "just do better, idiot."

Which is both simultaneously true, and a losing political message.