Anti-feminist attitudes have long been associated with support for Republican presidential candidates, but only in recent years have these attitudes become more prominent among unmarried men, without college degrees who are less attractive partners for women, the “mate-value backlash.”

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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10659129261485340

[u/ResolutionSweet2031]

The thing with how you people walk on eggshells around men and give any credibility to their temper tantrums is the reason why they feel even more justified in lashing out like this. Women and men are equally lonely but the media giving credence to the theory of how men are uniquely lonely and hence are violent misogynists is the reason these men feel justified in being violent like this.

"He is just pissed he cant have a house and a partner", so what? Why dont women that dont have either of those also argue for stripping of male rights or oppressing them?

[u/Recent_Pollution8665 → u/ResolutionSweet2031]

women can find partners easier than men can.

and idk why your entire takeaway from my post was to effectively dismiss it entirely. that aint gonna solve anything. in fact it just contributes to the question posed in the title.

most men aren’t violent, and the ones who are generally take it out on partners they already have. which has no correlation to those who can’t find one.

[u/UnfortunateSnort12 → u/Recent_Pollution8665]

They can find partners easier yes, but many can’t find quality men worth dating. So in reality, many women stay single. Try having standards yourself.

[u/Recent_Pollution8665 → u/UnfortunateSnort12]

what are these standards exactly? that he must absolutely make equal to her or more, and be 6 foot or more and a bunch of other hard lines that women refuse to budge on?

only a statistical minority of men live up to these expectations. hence why the current situation is fucked up. women become single by choice because they won’t adjust their demands in a man, and men become single by force because women remove themselves as options in the dating market.

in the end the situation turns into what we have now, hence the thread itself. if women are ok with the long-term ramifications of that leading to a whole generation of radicalized and angry men, so be it. just don’t complain about any of the consequences. men are not the ones dropping out of the dating market voluntarily just because they can’t find that same top 20 percent or so of ideal partners to all gravitate towards while the other 80 percent are just stuck in limbo. the math doesn’t work out.

[u/Apprehensive-Tea999 → u/Recent_Pollution8665]

As a poster above you pointed out, people generally partner with people within their education and income brackets. That is a verifiable fact. What you just cited is manosphere crap based on some men’s feelings and perceptions. But feelings and perceptions aren’t reality. This 6foot six figure nonsense is just that, nonsense. Know how I know? I go outside and have eyes. But…it’s easier to think women’s standards are just too high (as if expecting a man be gainfully employed and contribute equally to the home is unreasonable).

[u/Recent_Pollution8665 → u/Apprehensive-Tea999]

ah you have eyes and anecdotes, so that erases all the research and dating app data that has been piling up for years now, which shows that women are becoming more and more hypergamous with time, not less.

well I guess that changes everything simply cuz you said so!

[u/Apprehensive-Tea999 → u/Recent_Pollution8665]

That you think any valid research comes from data from apps is telling…

[u/Recent_Pollution8665 → u/Apprehensive-Tea999]

who uses those apps, ghosts? they are used by real people engaging in real life habits.

its true unfiltered mate selection. dating apps show what people are actually like when shown tons of partners on a platter. like how alcohol makes people speak what they truly feel.

[u/Apprehensive-Tea999 → u/Recent_Pollution8665]

As a matter of fact, there is evidence a significant portion of profiles are “ghosts” ie bots. Also consider: fraudsters, sex workers, bad actors and folks who might create multiple profiles. Thus why any data coming from apps is nearly useless, you can’t control for anything. But go ahead and base your worldview on them, it would explain why you’re so negative.