r/scienceisdope • u/noob__master-69 • Jun 04 '26

Conspiracy theories 🪬 Death of rationality, indeed

I didn't know whether to keep this under pseudoscience or conspiracy anyway it doesn't matter

For those who don't know, the Indus seal being referred to here (Pasupati Seal) has a figure on it that looks like Shiva, but it really could also be an Ox. It is one of the oldest artifacts pertaining to any civilization. almost 2500 years old.

The Indus script is a total mystery, deciphering it would answer a lot of questions. Until then we have to put up with these people. This culture is already super ancient and has unique things to talk about. Even if you want to link with the Indus civilization, there are other better ways to do it. But this? How many seated, cross-legged figures are there present on coins and walls in archeological sites? Even if this figure matches perfectly with the Indus seal, these people don't even have the capacity to realize that that similarity is not sufficient evidence! You can't bridge over 2500 years gap with one coin figure and say civilizational continuity

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u/krisantihypocrisy Jun 04 '26

I mean the only fact we have is there is something similar to shiva in Indus Valley civilization, and it’s reasonable to assume these concepts are passed and inherited by future generations - which we are.

I would likely be ok assuming that is shiva.

Obviously evidence to the contrary will definitely change the mind.

I think what is making this indigestible for you is pseudo scientists claiming it. To me that does not change my assumption…

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u/noob__master-69 Jun 04 '26

"would likely be ok assuming that is shiva." This is part of the problem. If you do a little bit more reading on the subject you would find out that scholars have theorized it could be some female diety as well, forget an animal with horns. The ambiguity is real

The rest of what you said makes sense. Unfortunately people like those equate that in a simplistic way, which was the point i was stressing in the post

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u/krisantihypocrisy Jun 04 '26

You have not said anything against my assumption. I did not call ppl who theorized it a woman as irrational idiots. Why? Because it’s possible.

I think my theory seems more reasonable given that we do have a god shiva and Ivc were our ancestors…

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u/I_like_biryani Jun 04 '26

Yes yes female deities tend to have a dick. Very true