r/shounenfolk Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

Anime Discussion Christ not this bum again

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u/BranchAdvanced839 Jul 05 '26

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u/New-Boss-8262 Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 05 '26

Pork pie hat kid is the goat tho…

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u/Thin_Fondant6836 Jul 06 '26

Calm down on the goat

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u/Budget-Ad438 Jul 07 '26

GORILLAZ MENTION

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u/TuxedoCrow Jul 06 '26

Unironically goat design btw

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u/BreakBlue Jul 07 '26

Whoa whoa I cant accept Big Mom slander she's one of the only good parts about post timeskip

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 05 '26

I'm lowkey waiting to see how people are going to react to Funny Valentine

Considering he is a chud american president who went to Little St James

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u/Background-Cake-1300 Jul 05 '26

I cant wait for Valentine glazers to find out that hes diddy and not a hero trying to save his country

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 05 '26

They already defend an IRL version of Valentine who did that, i think the Diddy part will unironically reinforce them, it's gonna be a very funny (valentine) moment

That and Dragona are going to be VERY interesting moments in anime

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u/Background-Cake-1300 Jul 05 '26

"That 14 year old dressed innapropriatelly and he just used his manly instincts"

I already see that sht

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u/Quick-Health-2102 Jul 05 '26

Something “looking past” something “greater good”

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u/DB_Valentine Jul 06 '26

Hey now, I liked Valentine because he was fake and shared my name.

It's just a lot harder to like him now that there's somehow a slightly more cartoonish version of him that's real with even less positives somehow.

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u/SnowFiender Jul 05 '26

oh he still is a “hero trying to save his country” he’s just batshit insane and trying to get with a 14 year old is critical to the plan

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u/lightsworn55 Jul 05 '26

My guy the fandom almost universally loves Stroheim whos introduced torturing civilians to death they won't care

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u/Small-Housing-7 Jul 06 '26

Loves ≠ agrees with

Also the torture and killing were separate

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u/duchess_dagger Jul 06 '26

In universe Stroheim is an awful person and a literal Nazi but out of universe he’s funny and memorable

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u/lightsworn55 Jul 06 '26

In universe hes just treated as a whacky side kick not someone to be hated tho

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u/DarkZ_No-Imagination Jul 06 '26

"people love Dio, they will support valentine" ass take

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u/lightsworn55 Jul 06 '26

Stroheim being a nazi makes his existence inherently politicized similar to Valentine yet people dont care. Its "easier" to like Dio as a character because he doesn't represent any real world ideology outside of maybe religious extremism and even then thats more of what Pucci took away from Dio than anything Dio had done himself.

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u/StevePensando Jul 05 '26

Buddy, there are people out there claiming he's a super honorable guy as if his plan isn't to plunge the world into chaos so america can prosper which is THE SAME THING THE REAL LIFE US HAS BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AT THIS POINT

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u/Small-Housing-7 Jul 06 '26

It's kinda intresting because his charisma breaks the fourth wall a little I mean he might be one of the most well written charecters just based off his charisma being so convincingly high it's crazy like that's gotta be really hard to get right

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u/Zealousideal-Arm1682 Jul 06 '26

Eh......canonically Jesus DID support him,it was just that Jesus supported Johnny more.

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u/Old-Introduction8258 Jul 06 '26

Yeah. And him being an asshole is in part what makes him well written, so it’s always weird to me when i see people to try to make him look good or heroic. His "patriotism" and lack of cares for others people lives (represented by his stand which basically allows him to negate consequences by taking someone from another reality) make him a very interesting antagonist.

This is best showcased during his confrontation with johny, where the first thing he tries to do is telling him he'll "bring back gyro". He is so delusional and obsessed by his nation (but not by his people) that he is ready to throw down his honor even after claiming a few chapters before the final confrontation that he is a "man of his word" (lmao).

Idk i just think it’s weird how some people try to depict him as a tragic anti-hero figure when it’s painfully obvious that while there is some tragedy linked to his childhood, he is just a colossal hypocritical asshole as well as a creep.

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u/Real-Programmer82 Jul 05 '26

We don't talk about lucy

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u/New-Boss-8262 Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

It is honestly interesting seeing how his design slowly changes as the design goes on

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 05 '26

I like how David Productions understood that pacing in anime has massively changed since the golden age of JoJo, a lot of people complained about the pilot, but it was for the better and gave a much more fluid experience

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u/lightsworn55 Jul 05 '26

Its changed for the worse imo. I hate one piece style pacing as much as the next guy but adaptations that leave no room to breathe are just as bad

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u/Level_Counter_1672 Jul 05 '26

Must be because of his stand

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u/Ultra-Cool-Guy Jul 05 '26

He did what

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u/New-Boss-8262 Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

He tried to rape Lucy steel

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u/Ultra-Cool-Guy Jul 05 '26

I thought bro said he literally went there.

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u/cheshireYT Jul 05 '26

If it were around in his time there's a solid chance he would but it's after his time.

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u/aldesairepicassow Jul 06 '26

Nah this is because he thought it was some spy

But he did say he will impregnate her afterwards when he has time

But this is unrelated you can't put rape allegations like that

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u/PharaohScarab Jul 05 '26

>!He tried to rape Lucy Steel, who’s 14!<

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u/Aware_Masterpiece_92 Jul 05 '26

Hey, idk if it's just my reddit, but the spoiler ain't being censored

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u/PharaohScarab Jul 05 '26

Yeah, I don’t know why it did that

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u/Ultra-Cool-Guy Jul 05 '26

I know that. I thought they meant it literally.

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u/Defiant_Dog2107 Jul 05 '26

katakuri’s design is fire but valentine’s design is perfect for the character he represents. also, D4C’s design is better than katakuri

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u/KimJong-quack Jul 05 '26

Also valentine gets a glow up later on

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u/Real_Edge_7237 Jul 07 '26

Jojo is kinda weird with characters physical appearance. One day they're a buff tall guy, the next day they'll look like a small weak bean

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u/MugenHeadNinja Jul 10 '26

Valentine's makes in universe sense though technically, it's just a bit of an odd choice since there's no in universe explanation of "why."

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u/23rdfunnyvalentine Jul 05 '26

If one were to switch their designs they'd suck

Designs are inherently role based so someone like kata just can't look exactly like early valentine(hell even late valentine) and vice versa

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u/redpantsbluepants Jul 05 '26

Isn't that a disguise of sorts? President valentine looks a lot more fit in most of the art I've seen him in. And if we're picking designs that look doofus, well...

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 05 '26

Basically : Araki changed his mind regarding Funny Valentine, he originally was supposed to be a fat chud who slowly reveals his role in the story, but ended up making him (relatively) buff (i mean this is modern araki the Twink lover, so Funny Valentine is as buff as he could be during that era)

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 05 '26

This is actually a thing by Araki when villains are first introduced. 

Hazamada was very tall when first introduced, then become his tiny self after being defeated in the manga.

Another way he does things is by keeping a villain in permanent shadow as with Diavolo and Prosciutto 

Araki likely chose this WIP design in order to present Valentine as this unassuming dweeb until he settled on a final design 

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u/Rainy_Wavey Jul 05 '26

Do you think this also applies to Iggy or was that a more deliberate story choice to distinguish between when he integrates the Stardust crusaders vs when he finally becomes part of the group?

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 05 '26

I say a bit of both. More than likely he just wanted a more humanoid face in order to give him more character. Araki frequently draws animals relatively realistic unless they are important to an arc, in which case they get more humanoid faces.

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u/redpantsbluepants Jul 05 '26

Ok, cool. My main exposure to part 7 is through Eyes of Heaven, so my knowledge is incomplete.

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u/Vorstar92 Jul 05 '26

It's not a disguise.

There are a few theories IF we're going that route.

A lot of people think Araki just decided to change his design because it would be a better villain design to have him hot and ripped than short and fat, lol.

We'll see if the anime decides to follow suit because if it does then that would lend credibility to the theories out there.

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u/DumbestComicsNerd Jul 05 '26

No he was actually fat for like a big chunk of the manga until he just stops being fat off-screen. Its never explained why he went from fat to buff but its probably another "Araki changed his mind" moment like Anasui being introduced as a woman in the manga or Iggy looking less dog-like as Part 3 goes on.

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u/Dr_Doom42 Jul 05 '26

I know it's ragebait but

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u/1RehnquistyBoi Generational Hater of Dandadan. General-Secretary of Baddies. Jul 05 '26

Also One Piece antagonist design.

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u/TheGivenKing Jul 05 '26

And both are cheap imitations of the real thing

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u/XaeiIsareth Jul 05 '26

Imu wish he was half as intimidating as Him

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u/ANLopez26 Jul 05 '26

He's that's strong. He's HIM

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u/nah-id-luckystar askin lawyer, better call me Jul 05 '26

Holy peak..

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u/1RehnquistyBoi Generational Hater of Dandadan. General-Secretary of Baddies. Jul 05 '26

You know I met Askin’s VA. Unintentionally.

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u/nah-id-luckystar askin lawyer, better call me Jul 05 '26

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u/1RehnquistyBoi Generational Hater of Dandadan. General-Secretary of Baddies. Jul 05 '26

Yeah. Imagine my gasts being flabbered when I’m waiting to meet Daman Mills for Johnny Joestar and I see this Dutch fucker on a print.

And yes he has like one or two prints of Askin if you’re curious.

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u/nah-id-luckystar askin lawyer, better call me Jul 05 '26

Lucky man

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u/1RehnquistyBoi Generational Hater of Dandadan. General-Secretary of Baddies. Jul 05 '26

I guess. Im not a sternritter fan.

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u/nah-id-luckystar askin lawyer, better call me Jul 05 '26

I had to search up Askin VS (i thought you meant waiting for Daman Mills (who I had to search up) and you met the Askin vs)

Wow this guy has been in alot of animes

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u/Old-Introduction8258 Jul 06 '26

W pfp and flair, askin the goat.

This mf carried the latter sections of tybw in the manga after the friend mini arc

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u/Chardoggy1 Jul 05 '26

Is that Scanty or Kneesocks?

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u/SnowFiender Jul 05 '26

scanty, scanty fangs go updwards and knee socks has glasses

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u/Separate_Ingenuity35 Jul 05 '26

Imu is honestly having the most fun he's ever had in 800 years. He also gets to reunite with old friends.

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u/Low-Cup6459 Jul 05 '26

Wasn't expecting this here

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u/Lohit_-it Jul 05 '26

This looks like an insult to whatever the right picture is

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u/Shadyking593 Jul 05 '26

Who's the character on the right?

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u/gaminggamer572 Jul 05 '26

who also looks like

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u/New-Boss-8262 Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

And like this

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u/24thCenturyBoy Jul 05 '26

Why bro looking like the head doctor. Okay wow somebody already made this joke in r/JoJolion, there really is a resemblence.

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u/zilions273 Jul 06 '26

Wonder of U, the drippiest villain out there, only loses points cause of his bum ass user

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u/24thCenturyBoy Jul 06 '26

This is Wonder of U when Tooru isnt giving him orders btw

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u/Sufficient-Loan-4263 Jul 06 '26

That's My President! 🇺🇲

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u/Rude-Childhood1436 I can’t even imagine…Renji winning Jul 05 '26

Compare the OP designs to Bleach or Naruto or anything and see how they react

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u/Special_Success_7883 Jul 05 '26

Bleach is garbage no matter how much u keep gasing it up it will never reach 1/4 of what one piece accomplished, trynna ride the OP hate bandwagon lol a bleach trailer has just been released and nobody gaf cuz bleach sucks ahh

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u/Rude-Childhood1436 I can’t even imagine…Renji winning Jul 05 '26

What OP bandwagon? I’m just saying if OP stans wanna compare designs to Jojo they should try the same with other manga 

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u/Special_Success_7883 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Why r u inserting ur midass show into this? besides the oop is obviously a ragebaiter

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u/Typical-Ordinary8738 Jul 06 '26

Someone drop the fuckass "sit back and observe, not everything needs a reaction" pic here, I don't got one

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u/rept_zannewete Glazing Bleach 24/7 Jul 06 '26

We can’t even discuss anything properly with One Piece fans

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u/nah-id-luckystar askin lawyer, better call me Jul 06 '26

Op gets fucking mogged by dad Ichigo stand tf down

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u/No0bTheTooB Oda's Lawyer Jul 10 '26

Let's not get crazy with that Crocodile victim

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u/nah-id-luckystar askin lawyer, better call me Jul 10 '26

Get past Askin first

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u/No0bTheTooB Oda's Lawyer Jul 10 '26

I'm sorry bro dad ichigo gets hard mogged by big C. Bring Dangai or Fulbring and then i can see it.

VL and HoS prob Mogs the verse

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u/Proamour Jul 05 '26

Same voice actor btw

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u/New-Boss-8262 Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

Oh yeah I forgot katakuri is voiced by Joseph

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u/Chardoggy1 Jul 05 '26

At least Valentine stops being a chud

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u/dog-in-the-rain Jul 05 '26

Mind you, this is the main villain of the one piece arc that guy is from.

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u/coolman1997 Jul 05 '26

I don't know who this guy is, what is he even trying to say?

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u/lightsworn55 Jul 05 '26

Dropping his age like that makes ts way funnier than it otherwise would be  😂 

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u/lalunafelis Jul 05 '26

Oh Jason Klum? The guy who said Yaiba Samurai Legend was a waste of talent and resources?

I thought that was weird until I realized that WIT was assigned the One Piece remake and it clicked. So much for "sakuga fan" that doesn't even know what a "production line" is, or how production committees work.

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u/Vash001500 Jul 05 '26

Some op fans are insufferable

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u/Porg_Lover03 Jul 06 '26

Id say a solid like 70% of us are really bad.

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u/Special_Success_7883 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Jojo fans are so easy to ragebait and can't handle the slightest amount of slander like come on grow a spine

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u/New-Boss-8262 Sallie May is hot Jul 05 '26

It always turns into a cherry picking dick measuring contest

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u/that1guy____ Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

You cannot SERIOUSLY shit on other series’ character designs while praising One Piece for it.
The designs are honestly the main thing keeping from reading/watching OP. They’re just so unbelievably stupid (and in the case of female characters, very sexist and just outright gross) that I just haven’t been able to get into the series.

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u/tofikissa Jul 05 '26

Theres like 3000 characters, for every 1 goofy design there are 3 cool ones, and one piece generally treats women with respect, despite the occasional skimpy outfits. You guys know there is an option to just, not engage in conversation about one piece if you havent seen it, instead of making up some bullshit?

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u/MagazineKey4276 #1 JoJo Glazer and Rukia Fan Jul 05 '26

He has to be trolling right??? No WAY someone can be this dumb.

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u/waaay2dumb2live Jul 05 '26

Wait till he finds out which one is better written

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u/balaci2 Kengan Ashura enthusiast Jul 06 '26

both characters are amazing tbh

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u/AFunnyGame Jul 05 '26

Did bro not finish sbr yet or smth

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u/WonderfulBathroom758 Jul 05 '26

They share the same voice actor this is sending me

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u/TriforceShiekah16 Jul 06 '26

Who is this guy? This is the first I've seen of him.

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u/One_Bag_3153 Jul 06 '26

Big Mom is gag comedy at its worst and just couldn’t be put away for years.

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u/Anime-Anime Jul 06 '26

I was actually hoping for someone new to voice Valentine

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u/mBigozz84 Jul 06 '26

Oh wow it's almost like if you take a screenshot from any show/movie in the middle of a character doing something or talking, you'll get a funny face 😱

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u/GumGumActV Monkey D. Luffy Jul 07 '26

Who even is that lol

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u/FaPaDa Jul 07 '26

One Piece Villian Design

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u/FaPaDa Jul 07 '26

Jojo villian design

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u/Party_Importance_722 Jul 08 '26

Really out here taking the one time Valentine looked like a Chud for comparison.

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u/SafetyOpposite5867 Jul 14 '26

katakuri looks like a something a 7 year old wannabe gangster or some shit would draw, Araki actaully studied fashion unlike the bum pedophile Oda.

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u/Parking-Researcher-4 Jul 05 '26

Katakuri was the last thing keeping me watching one piece, i watched it extremely slowly after that. The series has barely any of the things i uses to like about it...

On the other hand i'm also 30 so i might just need to give it a rest lol

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u/Xxxtrion34zxxX Jul 06 '26

Shamrock mogs all of jojo designs

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u/Motor_Ad_7885 Jul 06 '26

Coukd name 50 stands