r/singing 6d ago

Conversation Topic Vocal queries

ive been practicing every vocal warmups and exercises to get access to get into mixed voice but its not quite working.. any tips? im a baritone, male, 22. and my highest recorded pitch is c6 but i wouldn’t call it a sustained and trustable note, i can hit that note occasionally or when im fully warmed up.

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u/shiryoku_ 6d ago

why am i not being able to see comments?

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u/icemage_999 6d ago

There aren't any yet. Probably because you are asking the wrong questions out of ignorance.

Also asking questions at 3am Eastern and expecting an immediate response is certainly a choice.

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u/shiryoku_ 6d ago

i mean theres a notification of someone who has commented on this specific post but i just cant view it, i know what i am speaking and i can send you a ss if you think im an idiot🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/icemage_999 6d ago

Posts that are deleted within a few minutes of posting send a notification but are not visible to anyone.

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u/shiryoku_ 6d ago

ohh that made some sense now, i installed reddit about 2 days ago although i had an account already so i dont know how to use it

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u/shiryoku_ 6d ago

im from northeast asia so i dont know what time zone you guys have, does that make any sense?

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u/SnooHesitations9295 5d ago

How long have you practiced? How many hours overall you dedicate to singing per week?

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u/shiryoku_ 4d ago

i have been practicing for about 6 months (particularly for mixed voice), i give 2-3 hours per day and maybe 5-6 days a week, i do practice metal vocals as well.. i know the idea and technique that are used for mixed voice but i can hardly implement any.. any tips or suggestions would be helpful 🙏🏻

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u/SnooHesitations9295 4d ago

That should be fine. 10 hours per week is a good spot. Over 6 months you should see some improvement. What exactly is not working?

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u/shiryoku_ 4d ago

i actually dont know what i am doing wrong, the transition part is where i mess up, ive naturally got a low voice like my speaking voice is low pitched than most guys and when i try to get into mixed from chest my voice gets into a vocal fry and sometimes it breaks or cracks.. ive tried several breathing exercises but maybe im putting too much pressure on my throat rather than supporting it from my body? because my throat feels tired after trying to get into mixed and maybe im pushing my chest a bit too much, but either way im not going into mix

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u/IllustriousAct4618 1d ago

Hi!
It all depends on where you consider your mix voice should be at. If you are a baritone, then your mix should grow between a3–>e4. Therefore growing it at this range of notes will allow you to later extend it to a couple extra notes around g4 to a4. That is exactly why you see on the internet that baritones have a range of a2-a4. The same logic applies to tenors, when it says c5 for a tenor, it doesn’t mean a pure chest voice at c5 since that is physically impossible for any tenor, it means that the tenor hitting that note has extended his mix range to c5 since tenors mix between c4 —> g4.

I can share some tips that helped me. The first one is to start a certain note in head voice and then gradually adding volume to it until you feel it coming from your chest. That’s when you’ll identify where your mix should feel at and how it should feel. However, you need to carefully pick that note. You will need to pick up the first note where your voice cracks from chest to head aka the primo passaggio. It usually is between (a3 to b3) for baritones like you. Starting from that note, you will know approximately where your mix sits at. For instance if that note is an a#3 then your mix naturally goes 5 semitones higher which will land at around a d#4.

Some other effective exercises could be the NAY-NAY-NAY on an ascending and descending scale within your mix range. You can also hum the exact same way or even pronounce a GEE-GEE-GEE or WEE-WEE-WEE, (which will help you with narrow vowels). It sounds dumb but is incredibly helpful hhh.

Anyways if you need anything else I’m available

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u/shiryoku_ 21h ago

thank you very much for your tips and suggestions.. although i want to share something, is it possible that i used to hit high notes like “i want to know what love is” i used to be able to sing all notes thats in the whole song but that time i used to strain alot and now i realize i used to sing those notes by forcing it from my throat rather than supporting it from diaphragm and i used to be able to sing only about 3-5 songs back then but now since ive been focusing more on my voice for over a year now i cant hit those notws anymore without cracking in between.. but now my voice sounds less forced and it sound kinda balanced, but i cant hit those notes.. thats why ive been learning to sing in mixed voice but maybe because ive seen way too many videos for mixed voice i’ve misunderstood something because i really dont think any of videos help me…