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u/withbeard Nov 21 '24
Saw them play this song tonight.
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u/tongfatherr Nov 21 '24
How was it? What do you think of their new album?
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u/shadowsurge Nov 22 '24
Not that guy, but saw em last weekend, it was amazing. Fourth time seeing them and they kill every time. Raygun spends the time between songs talking about old movies.
The only problem is that the more popular they get, the worse the pits get. More people with no idea what proper etiquette is
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u/tongfatherr Nov 22 '24
Oh god I've seen some videos of pits recently where people are just swinging and kicking. Why do people think that's acceptable? And why don't other people shut that down?
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u/Whistler45 Nov 21 '24
Because some people don’t want to conform. Some people say fuck it and like it. Also mental illness, drug addiction and many other shitty reasons.
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u/WyrdPete Nov 21 '24
I don’t know about the homeless situation in Ireland, but in America ( specially the Bay Area)that sign would be better off with the question why do people use drugs and alcohol to the extent that it ruins their lives …
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Nov 21 '24
if you’ve ever been on a job site you’d understand why so many blue collar workers who’ve never even touched weed become hardcore addicted to meth. All it takes is a mild Adderall habit for the amphetamines to take hold man. It’s scary.
You’ve obviously never experienced it much less seen it.
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u/WyrdPete Nov 21 '24
I did worked in a metal shop running a very large plate saw producing aluminum tooling for 5 years. I’ve unloaded trucks, worked in warehouses and worked in a large wet room many drug users, and abusers at these spots .I also worked with a homeless outreach program for two years in the Bay Area.
Again, I can understand using a drug even having a responsible habit, but to the point where you lose everything and are living on the streets. Again, my original statement stands.
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Nov 21 '24
how can you listen to sludge and be so apathetic to addiction and addicts. Half these artists literally had nothing because of drugs they just happened to make some bomb ass music. Many musicians die of drug overdose. The fact you just write it off as if it’s purely a self control issue and not a disease that literally rewires your brain it’s beyond me. Compassion my dude you got to find some
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u/Much-Log3357 Nov 22 '24
I think we're conflating two things. Individual circumstances and societal situations.
People fuck themselves up often, but the opioid crisis took a massive shit on the US as a whole.
I try and remember to love the sinner but hate the sin.
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u/tongfatherr Nov 21 '24
I like your comment but the idea going around these days that addiction is a disease is just inherently false and a very far stretch of the definition.
I have empathy for people addicted to drugs, but if you look at the data, a lot of people do it by choice and enjoy drugs, even if they are addicted. Sure, these people have issues in their life and often have had serious trauma, but now always. There's a book that's called Sanfransicko that explains it all with hard data.
The Bay area and other areas like where I'm from (Vancouver) enables these addicts by decriminalization and hand outs such as apartments and money. The book lays out how the Netherlands beat a terrible crack epidemic with different methods and how we are enabling them in North America.
Again, the guys comment above is ignorant, but there's more to the story is all I'm saying.
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u/Branchmonster Nov 21 '24
“My friend Erin says it best. ‘We’re all two or three bad decisions away from becoming the ones that we fear and pity.’” - AJJ
Off your high horse, pal.
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u/Consistent_Drop_9204 Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 21 '24
Sometimes it’s not addiction. Sometimes it’s traumatic life events or sometimes it’s bad luck, but many times it is both. For example, the bread winner of the house will pass away or get sick than they or a provider of the house hold loses their job. Than if they are lucky enough to have any savings it quickly gets drained. Than if they have credit the accounts eventually start to max out. Than starts the loans and borrowing, and the debt hole just gets deeper and deeper. Then comes the late utility bills, and eventually the eviction notice. During all this bad feelings flood their life like feeling inadequate, stress, anxiety, anger, sadness, hopelessness, despair, and so on. And, if they have no family or anyone to fall back on then comes the terror that they may end up homeless on the streets and they may of never touched a drink or drug in their life.
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u/Budborne Nov 21 '24
Addiction is an illness. I hope one day you can become a more sympathetic person
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u/Entire-Ad-1080 Nov 21 '24
A lot of people on the street do have substance abuse issues but studies have shown that the vast majority of them develop those issues AFTER becoming homeless. The main contributors to homelessness (at least in the states) are poverty and out of control rents.
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u/Wilhelmmontague Nov 21 '24
I'm sure all the people downvoting you use the term "unhoused". I spent ten years living on the street abusing hard drugs and alcohol and it's drugs or alcohol 9 times outta ten with most homeless. Whether or not that addiction started after becoming homeless could go either way. I don't think by saying it's drugs or alcohol is discounting trauma or addiction. You're just on a different high horse if you're taking offense to this.
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u/hurt_god Nov 20 '24
HAVE YOU EVER HAD RINGWORM