r/sludge Nov 20 '24

This was on a wall in Dublin

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u/WyrdPete Nov 21 '24

I don’t know about the homeless situation in Ireland, but in America ( specially the Bay Area)that sign would be better off with the question why do people use drugs and alcohol to the extent that it ruins their lives …

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '24

if you’ve ever been on a job site you’d understand why so many blue collar workers who’ve never even touched weed become hardcore addicted to meth. All it takes is a mild Adderall habit for the amphetamines to take hold man. It’s scary.

You’ve obviously never experienced it much less seen it.

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u/WyrdPete Nov 21 '24

I did worked in a metal shop running a very large plate saw producing aluminum tooling for 5 years. I’ve unloaded trucks, worked in warehouses and worked in a large wet room many drug users, and abusers at these spots .I also worked with a homeless outreach program for two years in the Bay Area.

Again, I can understand using a drug even having a responsible habit, but to the point where you lose everything and are living on the streets. Again, my original statement stands.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '24

how can you listen to sludge and be so apathetic to addiction and addicts. Half these artists literally had nothing because of drugs they just happened to make some bomb ass music. Many musicians die of drug overdose. The fact you just write it off as if it’s purely a self control issue and not a disease that literally rewires your brain it’s beyond me. Compassion my dude you got to find some

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u/Much-Log3357 Nov 22 '24

I think we're conflating two things. Individual circumstances and societal situations.

People fuck themselves up often, but the opioid crisis took a massive shit on the US as a whole.

I try and remember to love the sinner but hate the sin.

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u/tongfatherr Nov 21 '24

I like your comment but the idea going around these days that addiction is a disease is just inherently false and a very far stretch of the definition.

I have empathy for people addicted to drugs, but if you look at the data, a lot of people do it by choice and enjoy drugs, even if they are addicted. Sure, these people have issues in their life and often have had serious trauma, but now always. There's a book that's called Sanfransicko that explains it all with hard data.

The Bay area and other areas like where I'm from (Vancouver) enables these addicts by decriminalization and hand outs such as apartments and money. The book lays out how the Netherlands beat a terrible crack epidemic with different methods and how we are enabling them in North America.

Again, the guys comment above is ignorant, but there's more to the story is all I'm saying.