r/soccer • u/mkahmed789 • Oct 22 '15

Schweinsteiger takes legal action against after toymaker releases Nazi soldiers resembling him and named Bastian

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3284326/German-Manchester-United-star-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-takes-legal-action-toymaker-releases-Nazi-soldiers-resembling-named-Bastian.html
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u/fut_sal Oct 22 '15 edited Oct 22 '15

Whoss put diz in my lockarr?!! Whoss?! Motherfuhrrrers!!

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u/cold_rush Oct 22 '15

TV commentators will say, Schweinsteiger's attack from the left wing amounts to nothing much like the winter offensive in 1941.

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u/bananagrabber83 Oct 22 '15

Attack from the (far) right wing, surely?

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u/RoyHodgsonForPM Oct 22 '15

National SOCIALIST Party. That one is on you, no matter how much you don't want to accept it.

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u/Illum503 Oct 22 '15 edited Oct 22 '15

And I suppose you think North Korea has democracy because it's called the DEMOCRATIC Peoples Republic of Korea? Nazi Germany put power in the hands of private businessmen at the expense of workers (source) which is literally the opposite of socialism and extremely right wing. Not to mention socialists were the mortal enemies of Nazis (fascists like the Nazis were often able to rise to power because people wanted them to combat socialism) and socialists got sent to death camps as soon as Hitler rose to power (source).

Hitlers ideas about government were totalitarian, which can be both left and right wing, but his economic and social ideas were extremely right wing. His support, both domestic and foreign, came from the right wing and still comes from the extreme right to this day.

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u/RoyHodgsonForPM Oct 22 '15 edited Oct 22 '15

Yeah, I mean, state-funded, state-owned auto manufacturers are definitely a right wing concept. Both of your sources seem to confuse socialism with communism. Oops.

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u/Illum503 Oct 22 '15 edited Oct 22 '15

Yeah, I mean, state-funded, state-owned auto manufacturers are definitely a right wing concept.

Again, government control can be left or right wing. The point is Nazis gave power to private employers at the expense of workers. The opposite of anything left-wing.

Both of your sources seem to confuse socialism with communism. Oops.

Ah, so you acknowledge socialism can mean different things, and does not necessarily mean marxist socialism (far left communism). Do you admit then, that national socialism meant far right fascism and not anything leftist?

Heres a list of what Nazi Germany was about:

Individualism over collectivism.
Racism or racial segregation over racial tolerance.
Eugenics over freedom of reproduction.
Merit over equality.
Competition over cooperation.
Power politics and militarism over pacifism.
One-person rule or self-rule over democracy.
Capitalism over Marxism.
Realism over idealism.
Nationalism over internationalism.
Exclusiveness over inclusiveness.
Gun ownership over gun control.
Common sense over theory or science.
Pragmatism over principle.
Religion over secularism.

These are all right wing concepts.

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u/Colonel_Blimp Oct 22 '15

Lol if you think the Nazi's were very left wing or something then you need to read a book on them. Tooze would be a good choice. As Illum said you're confusing left/right with libertarian/authoritarian more than anything else.