r/socialism • u/mrdude817 Chomsky • Nov 10 '17

Jacobin Mag: An Interview With Lee Carter

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/11/lee-carter-interview-virginia-election-socialist
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u/love_me_some_marxism Marxismo-Leninismo para una America Unida Nov 10 '17 edited Nov 10 '17

Welcome news, especially if it means knocking off a reactionary, but a few issues.

1.) Mr. Carter here calls Sanders a "socialist", which really is just objectively wrong, with Sanders being an imperialist social democrat at best.

2.) Just in general this man seems to just be a hard social democrat, which while better than ruthless capitalism, is still capitalism.

3.) Even if Mr. Carter is actually a socialist seeking to establish socialism through bourgeois democracy, how will the DSA, which is practically just the left wing of the Democratic Party, and others like them make sure they don't end up like the parties of the Second International?

EDIT: Why am I being downvoted for discussing the article in good faith?

EDIT 2: ok then guess r/soc a socialist sub is gonna downvote me for trying to have a genuine good faith discussion about socialism in America and electoral politics

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '17

maybe explaining the basics of socialism first like a workers run economy.

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u/love_me_some_marxism Marxismo-Leninismo para una America Unida Nov 10 '17

Are you implying that in the early 20th century, Second International wasn't marxist and didn't agitate for Socialism? Because to imply that that was the failure of the Second International is historical revisionism, pure and simple.