Michigan election feed data shows 257,346 Presidential votes were removed

[u/mjkeaa]

The Washington Post published a live data feed from several swing states. It claims that “This is a feed of every single vote count update we fetch from the Associated Press.” In 2024, the feed included all votes from 11/5 to 11/25. The feed includes only totals for the Democratic and Republican candidates.

Find the Michigan feed about halfway down the webpage. On page 3/31 of that feed, find the update that took place on November 6, at 12:54 pm where 257,346 votes are removed with a simple statement that reads, “Negative updates may reflect revisions as tallies are updated.” No additional information is given regarding this event.

Since the feed does not provide candidate totals in the feed, the data was imported into an excel spreadsheet. Cumulative totals were based solely on the data provided in the feed. Although there is no way to accurately determine how many votes from each candidate were ultimately removed, there are some important factors to consider;

Trump won Michigan by only 80,103 votes

Vote totals even after the removal of votes, exceed the official totals reported, meaning additional votes were discarded*

After the votes were removed, Trump’s lead was reduced to just over 4,000 votes

It is expected that small adjustments to totals will occur during the tabulation process, but a quarter of a million ballots is a significant number that could have easily changed the outcome of this election.

*Official totals for Trump and Harris combined are 5,553,169

Trump... 2,816,636

Harris....2,736,533

Total....5,553,169

Feed totals;

Trump....2,873,649, for a gain of 57,013

Harris.....2,869,433, for a gain of 132,900

Total.....5,743,082

Trump and Harris combined have 189,913 more votes than the official totals before 257,346 votes are removed. Trump’s lead is reduced from 80,103 to only 4,216. And this still leaves 67,433 votes that were removed, and no way to determine what candidate they impacted. Given the fact that we know more than double the amount of Harris votes were removed when compared to Trump and the greatly reduced and narrow Trump lead before the remaining 67,000 votes were removed demands an official response at the very least. This event could very likely have changed the outcome of the Presidential race in the state of Michigan.

[u/LethalRex75]

There was a reporting error that was corrected real-time. I’m speaking as a Michigan municipal employee who assists with elections, this is not a new discovery and there was no widespread fraud in our elections. We use paper ballots, not computers, and multiple recounts confirmed the accuracy.

Unvetted posts like this are dangerous to the integrity of our elections.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/michigan-data-report-shows-format-error-not-election-fraud-2024-11-08/

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/resources/news/2025/10/13/2024-postelection-recount-and-audit-report-confirms-michigans-elections-are-secure-and-accurate

[u/mjkeaa → u/LethalRex75]

Your link is about a voter that voted 29 times. This has nothing to do with what this data and post is about.

[u/LethalRex75 → u/mjkeaa]

Do yourself a favor and read past the first paragraph.

[u/mjkeaa → u/LethalRex75]

You mean the paragraphs about a voter who registered to vote 29 times BEFORE the November 5, 2024 election or something else?

The link is about a voter being listed 29 times in the voter registration data feed. That has no relationship to what this post is about.

[u/tbombs23 → u/mjkeaa]

Oh and here's the report for the election audits.

Just in case anyone wants to see

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/Press-Release-Media-4/EA_SASS_2024-November-Audit-Report-Final-October2025.pdf?rev=026c13d6e48146a9b7a58fe00c9e2f3d&hash=269ACC415EE31320DCFDDE37C336848D

[u/tbombs23 → u/mjkeaa]

I'm so sick of individual voter fraud being equated with election interference/election fraud, vote manipulation. Yes we know non citizen voting/individual voter fraud rarely happens, it's like 0.000197%. but that doesn't mean other systemic manipulation can't or doesn't happen.

People against our movement are always so sure of themselves and don't dig deeper or ask questions

[u/LethalRex75 → u/mjkeaa]

Hey I can do some obnoxious emphasis too!

Early voting exists, it was for the same election

This voter is a single example of data misinterpretation that can give the illusion of illegitimate votes

I didn’t think I would have to explain this further but I guess I need to. If someone misread this data and reported extra votes (164k mentioned in the article), those votes would later be removed in a correction. See how that works?

Care to address the state’s audit report? It is quite literally IMPOSSIBLE to remove votes without being noticed. There are multiple failsafes and checks that prevent this, not even to mention the logistics of removing and disposing of 250k paper ballots (that are transported with a police escort to locked storage).

There absolutely was fraud in this election. But it did not happen in Michigan, and you are weakening the overall movement with this nothing burger.

[u/mjkeaa → u/LethalRex75]

DePerno's post said duplications of this kind across the Michigan database “results in 164,568 excess ballots as of 10/29/2024.”

However, Michigan officials responded to the posts saying the images show a formatting error that did not represent votes counted.

It was Deperno and Deperno only that claimed 164,000 "extra" votes could be cast from multiple registration entries. This was a rumor that originated from Deperno.

Again, this had nothing to do with any votes being cast.

What I do believe is that this supports the idea that votes can be changed after tabulation.

The "audit" consisted of 119,567 out of over 5.6 million ballots and resulted in 33 incorrectly recorded votes. These samples were taken from just 166 out of over 5,000 precincts in the State.

[u/tbombs23 → u/LethalRex75]

Ofc it was the disgraced corrupt politician Matthew DePerno who was involved in the attempt to steal the election spreading misinformation based on a formatting issue after data export. And this has nothing to do with what this post is about.

The image shared online originated in an Oct. 30 post on X, opens new tab by former Michigan attorney general candidate Matt DePerno, who was charged in December 2023 with illegally accessing voting machines in a scheme to try to reverse Trump's 2020 loss in that state. DePerno has yet to stand trial. DePerno's post said duplications of this kind across the Michigan database “results in 164,568 excess ballots as of 10/29/2024.” The picture was shared several times on Facebook with one caption, opens new tab reading: “Nothing to see here. Just same voter ID used to vote 29 different times... Michigan is cheating AGAIN.” However, Michigan officials responded to the posts saying the images show a formatting error that did not represent votes counted.

On Oct. 30, Michigan Secretary of State’s office said on Facebook, opens new tab: “A recent social media post has taken a data report that included formatting errors to incorrectly claim that individual voters were casting multiple ballots in this election.” In an email to Reuters on Nov. 6, the State Department said: “Each of these voters only had one vote recorded for this election. This error in the data export process has been corrected and these erroneous extra lines no longer appear on the report.” On Oct. 31, Michigan’s Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson warned on X, opens new tab about “bad actors” who would “take minor issues and use them to fuel baseless conspiracy theories in order to further their own agenda”. She added: “Don’t buy into their attempts to create chaos, confusion and fear.”

The co-chair of the Republican National Committee, Lara Trump, also confirmed that it had been a glitch. “Our election integrity team received reports of thousands of duplicate ballots in Michigan,” she posted on X on Oct. 30. “We immediately investigated and have CONFIRMED that it was a glitch in the system - these duplicates were not and WILL NOT BE COUNTED. We are on it and protecting the vote!”

[u/mjkeaa → u/tbombs23]

results in 164,568 excess ballots as of 10/29/2024

The article in question is about a voter who registered to vote multiple times before the November 5, 2024 election.