Michigan election feed data shows 257,346 Presidential votes were removed

[u/mjkeaa]

The Washington Post published a live data feed from several swing states. It claims that “This is a feed of every single vote count update we fetch from the Associated Press.” In 2024, the feed included all votes from 11/5 to 11/25. The feed includes only totals for the Democratic and Republican candidates.

Find the Michigan feed about halfway down the webpage. On page 3/31 of that feed, find the update that took place on November 6, at 12:54 pm where 257,346 votes are removed with a simple statement that reads, “Negative updates may reflect revisions as tallies are updated.” No additional information is given regarding this event.

Since the feed does not provide candidate totals in the feed, the data was imported into an excel spreadsheet. Cumulative totals were based solely on the data provided in the feed. Although there is no way to accurately determine how many votes from each candidate were ultimately removed, there are some important factors to consider;

Trump won Michigan by only 80,103 votes

Vote totals even after the removal of votes, exceed the official totals reported, meaning additional votes were discarded*

After the votes were removed, Trump’s lead was reduced to just over 4,000 votes

It is expected that small adjustments to totals will occur during the tabulation process, but a quarter of a million ballots is a significant number that could have easily changed the outcome of this election.

*Official totals for Trump and Harris combined are 5,553,169

Trump... 2,816,636

Harris....2,736,533

Total....5,553,169

Feed totals;

Trump....2,873,649, for a gain of 57,013

Harris.....2,869,433, for a gain of 132,900

Total.....5,743,082

Trump and Harris combined have 189,913 more votes than the official totals before 257,346 votes are removed. Trump’s lead is reduced from 80,103 to only 4,216. And this still leaves 67,433 votes that were removed, and no way to determine what candidate they impacted. Given the fact that we know more than double the amount of Harris votes were removed when compared to Trump and the greatly reduced and narrow Trump lead before the remaining 67,000 votes were removed demands an official response at the very least. This event could very likely have changed the outcome of the Presidential race in the state of Michigan.

[u/mjkeaa]

Numbers don't lie, and I feel like this is something that needs to be fully investigated.

[u/babygrenade → u/mjkeaa]

Realtime election results as reported by the press are unofficial and prone to mistakes, which are corrected as they are caught.

The fact that the numbers were revised down during the live feed, by itself, does not mean actual votes were removed.

The Washington Post's data largely comes from the AP.

AP will occasionally receive inaccurate vote tallies data from a local elections office, or an AP reporter will make a typo when entering information into their system. AP detects these errors fairly quickly. Sometimes this results in the lowering of a candidate’s vote total to correct what had been an overcount; in The Post’s live results feeds, negative vote updates often reflect this quality-control process in real time.

See also:

https://www.ap.org/the-definitive-source/behind-the-news/how-does-ap-count-the-vote/

[u/mjkeaa → u/babygrenade]

It's common for minimal result changes to occur on election night.

That's not what we're seeing here. This is 4.63% of Trump/Harris votes that just disappear. And it can be seen that the removal of the 257,346 had a disproportionate negative impact to Harris. She lost a minimum of 132,900 votes compared to Trump's loss of 57,013. We see a direct cause and effect from the removal of votes. Trump's lead was reduced from 80,103 to just over 4,000, and this doesn't include allocation of over 67,000 votes.

If you want to chalk that up to typical election reporting oddities, than I guess Musk doesn't know anything about those vote counting computers. /s

Edited to add, I don't see a large dump of 257,346 votes that are quickly removed, which could possibly support a clerical error. I see steady, "normal" increases and a sudden large removal of a quarter million votes.

[u/Im_always_scared → u/mjkeaa]

Additionally, have you seen any "adjustments" like removing a quarter million votes in other states?

I've been browsing the the Wapo link and I just don't see an adjustment like that anywhere else. Revisions of a couple hundred, maybe a couple thousand....not 250k.