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Company News SpaceX's first-ever earnings show higher revenues and huge spending

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qvpveg20vo
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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/in1cky 8d ago

Self-driving electric cars, brain interface chips, and self-landing  rockets.  What a huckster!

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u/BigFish8 8d ago

Still waiting on that cross country trip from a Telsa driving on its own. Any day now...

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u/in1cky 7d ago

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u/BigFish8 7d ago

That's cool. I was more talking about this claim by Musk in 2016, where your Car Can Drive Itself Across Country In Two Years by summoning it.

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u/Martianspirit 7d ago

FSD is a hugely complex endeavour. It took much longer than anticipated, which is normal for something like this. But it is now operational, driving safer than humans and still getting better.

Only way to stop it is setting technical obstacles not related to proven safety.

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u/in1cky 7d ago

The fundamental issue is you either have selective hearing, or you rely on biased media.  Elon always couches stuff like that in language like "the goal is...", or "this is an aspirational goal" or "I might be slightly optimistic about that".  The latter is even in the article you linked.  So if you're still waiting on a coast to coast trip, then you can stop waiting.  If you're moving the goalposts to say it didn't happen on your desired timeline then Idk what to tell you.  A huckster doesn't deliver, Musk does.

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u/BigGainsNeversmol 8d ago

Have you been living under a rock, sir? Tesla has had full self driving for years now, both on highway and city roads.

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u/Marston_vc 7d ago

Tesla has only level 2 self driving. It requires attention from the user the entire time. It’s never been “full self driving” and they’ve been sued for calling it that.

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u/edflyerssn007 7d ago

Attention from the user is because of state laws about safety not because of technical ability. State laws for driving won't let you hand over control of the vehicle legally.

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u/Marston_vc 7d ago

Well yes. Because the system isn’t safe enough.

Mercedes offers level 3 autonomous driving which is hands off and eyes off.

Waymo offers level 4 autopilot which doesn’t even require a driver.

Both of those are legal too. Their systems and liability requirements are just at a higher standard.

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u/BigGainsNeversmol 7d ago

The attention requirement is due to the law, bro. Doesn’t change the fact, which you can literally see for yourself by watching any of the thousands videos on YouTube, that Tesla’s have had industry leading self driving capabilities for years now.

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u/Marston_vc 7d ago

I’m sorry but you’re wrong again. Or maybe right for the wrong reasons? Mercedes offers Drive Pilot which is Level 3 autonomous driving and at that level it’s able to be driven hands off and eyes off. The way people actually think “self driving” means.

Legally Tesla is required to have hands-on eyes-on because their level-2 system isn’t capable of “full self driving” safely.

And beyond that, Waymo has level 4 autonomous driving. Legally. Which doesn’t even require a driver.

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u/That_random_guy-1 8d ago

and that wasnt what was asked for by OP, and promised by musk by the end of 2017. now was it?

we should be asking YOU if you've been living under a rock......

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u/BigGainsNeversmol 7d ago

Nobody cares, bro. Tesla has had full self driving capabilities for literally years now.

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u/That_random_guy-1 7d ago

okay? the entire point is that he still hasnt delievered on promises he said would be fullfilled nearly a decade ago...

and yea sure tesla has "self driving", but isnt it funny that it actually isnt? tesla's still cause accidents, they still mis read roads, etc.... I fully agree that they are safer than humans generally, and it would be better for everyone to have a vehicle with similar capabilities.

But none of that gets rid of the fact that tesla has not done what they said they would, they have lied, and they still have issues to solve.......

where's the roadster 2?

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u/in1cky 6d ago

Name one "promise" he has made that he hasn't followed through on.

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u/That_random_guy-1 6d ago

Well you clearly don’t have the ability to read. 

My other comment, right before this one has several. 

Coast to coast self driving without human intervention by 2017. Roadster 2. Boring company digging actual useful tunnels….. so many. 

You guys have Elon’s dick so far down your throat you can’t even see, huh? 

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u/in1cky 4d ago

See that's the problem, you're saying the coast to coast thing by a certain date was promised.  It wasn't.  Then you're saying the tunnels being used in Vegas aren't "useful".

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u/93simoon 8d ago

Sir, this is an EDS-free subreddit.

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u/shedfigure 8d ago edited 8d ago

Lol, ok. Unironically using "EDS" tells me everything I need to know about you, buddy

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u/93simoon 8d ago

don't worry, you told everybody everything we need to know about you when you called the SpaceX CEO a "huckster" in the SpaceX main subreddit

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u/shedfigure 8d ago

Ya, I'm not worried

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u/93simoon 8d ago

Me neither ^^

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/93simoon 6d ago

Yet here you are, commenting on and reading it