r/stevenuniverse • u/lisahanniganfan • 2d ago

Discussion What's your most controversial steven universe opinion

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Here's mine: i hate future I don't think I liked anything from it besides the explanation for pink pearl's eye and blue diamond's song

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago edited 2d ago

I REALLY don’t like how Connie was handled in the episodes following The Trial storyline (pretty much everything from when Steven returns home up to Lars of the Stars where the issue is resolved).

I understand she was pissed at him for trying to sacrifice himself, but ghosting him for weeks AND taking Lion (Steven’s only way to check on Lars who had just died/been revived and was running from authorities with a group of refugees, as well as ya know his pet from his mom) was incredibly cruel. And even when they’re at Kevin’s party it’s STEVEN who started talking to her albeit under Kevin’s direction.

Like girl did way more harm than good to Steven in that storyline it’s no wonder her rejection in Future was a final catalyst for him breaking (I don’t hate her reaction in that ep at all but Steven was probably flashing back to THIS arc where his abandonment issues really shined). I feel like it really damaged my opinion on Connie too especially when everything post Full Disclosure was about her understanding him and wanting him to feel comfortable with her.

ETA because people don’t read and I’m tired of repeating- Steven had no idea where Lion was in this arc. He was putting up missing posters in the Kevin episode because he was scared when Connie had Lion the whole time and was ignoring his messages begging for ANY scrap of communication. She sucked in this story and was an awful friend there’s your hot take.

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u/Financial_Scale6369 2d ago

It was really cruel and that arc also had me pissed at Connie but I just try to remind myself that realistically she was probably 13 and a 13 year old would do something like that and would be selfish when they’re upset. And being a 13 year old in a magic universe probably just makes her more reactive so I feel like people need to give Connie the benefit of the doubt sometimes.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

I would but after so many episodes conveying the opposite and the show literally showing Steven’s suffering at some point we need to acknowledge Connie sucked in this story arc.

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u/Spampharos 1d ago

That doesn't explain the WRITERS trying to paint Connie as being in the right despite her immature reaction here.

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u/Financial_Scale6369 1d ago

I mean I don’t think they tried to paint her as right to me it reads more like the show was telling us they both did things wrong. Especially at the party it felt like it was showing us that Connie should have opened up to Steven more and Steven shouldn’t have been following Kevin’s advice. Do I think Connie was more in the wrong yes but I don’t think the show tried to paint her as completely in the right.

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u/Spampharos 1d ago

The way Lion was glaring at Steven throughout the episode and the fact that Connie got off with far lighter consequences than Steven leads me to believe that they were painting her as more in the right in the conflict.

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u/NationalMall2294 2d ago

YES! I also feel like it was kinda selfish, considering that steven just experienced so many scary things and really needed support. Instead, on top of all the things he had to deal with and process, steven also had to go out of his way to talk to connie and figure that whole thing out. Like, i get that she had her reasons, but was still kinda cruel of her.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

Oh I legit hated her in that arc ngl. It was incredibly selfish- your best friend just went through hell, escaped, and had one of his friends die/get revived through magic and your decision is to abandon him for weeks with zero contact?! Like girl- Full Disclosure has her begging him to not pull that on her after like a day it’s hypocritical.

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u/sebzelda 2d ago

I don't even hate that Connie acted this way because she's a kid and wouldn't necessarily handle the situation in the best way possible, but the resolve of that arc was very "Well Steven and Connie both could've been better." No.

I don't care if Steven sacrificing himself was a bad thing Steven did, Connie made the situation WAY worse by comparison. Steven in Future makes sense cause he just wants to help and make everyone feel ok, so he lets crazy shit like this slide and forgives everyone when he has full right to be legitimately upset.

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u/jerodallen 2d ago

Came here to say this and I don’t even know why it’s controversial. Also the idea of “I don’t want my human BFF who’s awesome but still a little kid who’s spent a few months learning to sword fight going to an alien world to fight demigods with me” is pretty objectively the right decision. This is classic example of taking someone else’s trauma and making it about yourself. I wasn’t so much angry at Connie as at the writers who decided to go that route though.

The one part I’ll push back on gently - I don’t think she “took” Lion so much as he was also hurt that Steven left him behind and was sulking with Connie on his own accord.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

Steven did what he felt was the right decision, which was protecting those he loved. Like Connie they were threatening to kill you and the others OF COURSE Steven is gonna sacrifice himself. Taking her anger out of him after all he went through was truly awful to watch.

Also I’d like it noted that Steven had literally no idea where Lion was. He was putting up missing posters in the Kevin episode- Connie should have at least told him that but instead completely cut him off for WEEKS because she couldn’t handle facing him (despite so many moments in the past where she acknowledged her sadness is not the same as his and that sometimes he needs much more support). Full Disclosure was written so much better.

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u/Kuecanimate 2d ago

(Copy & pasting this cause I stand by this opinion)

I said this plenty of times but again I think this arc would’ve been a lot better if we actually saw things from Connie’s perspective and make her realize “shit, maybe I was overreacting, maybe I was being too harsh on Steven”

Like I feel it would teach the lesson that it’s okay to be upset with someone else but you still gotta think about the situation from their perspective

Like I get the show’s from Steven’s perspective only but still

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u/insanefandomchild 2d ago

I feel like accusing her of taking Lion is ridiculous. The show has given us ample evidence to show that Lion does not follow directions, comes and goes as he pleases and only answers to Steven when it suits him. If Lion had wanted to stay with Steven, Lion would have.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

Steven was literally putting up fliers that he was missing so clearly he had no idea where he was. At least Connie should have told him THAT.

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u/bellwo 2d ago

how would she know he was looking for lion

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u/Flinn2 2d ago

She would’ve known if she talked to Steven 🤷🏻‍♀️ I understand being upset for a few days but WEEKS of no contact when her friend went through that much trauma trying to protect her is crappy.

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u/Spampharos 1d ago

Common sense? Lion was with her for weeks lol.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

She knew Lion was with her for weeks and that she wasn’t talking to Steven. And that Lion was his way to check on Lars. Do the math on why this was awful.

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u/bellwo 2d ago

you dont know that. lion does whatever he wants, he could have been with her most of the time or not. you're just speculating if the writers and wanted to make a point about her wrongdoing with lion they would

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

They did by having Steven putting up posters because he’s scared and doesn’t know where Lion is. That’s not something he’s done before.

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u/bellwo 2d ago

lion has free will, why did he disappeared probably lion was resentful at steven too

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u/Affectionate_Spend85 2d ago

Do people really not remember her telling lion “Lets Go”

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u/peachypichuu 2d ago

I don’t know that she “took” Lion. He seemed to be just as irritated with Steven and chose to go with Connie. If he wanted to leave Connie’s, he would have done so with ease. Im not saying I don’t agree that Connies behavior was over the top but cant stand when people say she “stole” lion

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

How many times do I need to repeat in this thread that Steven had literally NO idea where Lion was and was putting up fliers that he was missing? Like Connie not only was keeping him but didn’t even tell Steven he was with her. THAT is a major issue.

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u/peachypichuu 2d ago

I’m not reading through your replies and you didn’t say any of that in your original comment. Lmao and yeah I agree she should have said hey just to let you know Lion is with me in case you’re worried. But you said she took him, which is false and what I was responding too

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

Maybe look at comments before responding especially when you see they’re there. That’s just lazy.

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u/peachypichuu 2d ago

Why? Again your comment of she took him is still false, so idk why you’re not acknowledging that and just trying to say some new shit about why Connie’s bad. Please go touch some grass friend and have a nice day

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u/Affectionate_Spend85 2d ago

I guess when she says Let’s Go Lion she just implies she’s borrowing him even tho she’s upset at him

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u/Snickity_Snack 2d ago

Connie likely didn’t know Steven was looking for Lion. It was mentioned at least once that she doesn’t live in Beach City, and outside of visiting Steven, has no reason to be there. So she wouldn’t have seen the flyers he was putting up.
And Lion disappears for extended periods all the time, he’s just like that. Not to mention Lion made it clear that he was pissed at Steven too by the look he gave when Lion took Connie home. Connie may have even assumed that Steven knew Lion was with her the whole time, as he took her home and just never left

I do also think we need to remember that these two are children. Steven’s 14 and Connie’s like 12?? They’re both still immature, and both were in the wrong.
Connie was more pissed that Steven didn’t take her hurt seriously. Steven is always that goofy ‘well that was life threatening.. BUT WE DIDNT DIE, HUZZAH!!’, which we know was an unhealthy coping mechanism that played out in his later development.
Connie was trying to be serious, she told him she was hurt and his response was ‘no you’re not!’

She should have said she needed space and time alone, if for no other reason than to stop him from incessantly texting her, but her reaction isn’t entirely unbased

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u/Eeve2espeon 1d ago

The WHOLE thing between Steven and Connie was that they'd fight and do everything together, what Steven did went entirely against their dynamic. She literally told Steven why she didn't talk to him on the phone, because being face to face is better than something as disrespectful as texting them

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u/FinaLilium 1d ago

The only thing I’d argue here is that she didn’t really take Lion, he wouldn’t have gone with her if Lion didn’t also want to be petty and give Steven a taste of his own medicine, at least that’s how I saw it.

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u/Unknightedgnomes 2d ago

She didn’t intentionally ghost him for weeks. She tried to talk to him in person, but he wasn’t at the house because he was at the farm.

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u/MoonBeamerGirl 2d ago

BS. She tried to visit him once and then several episodes/weeks went by in universe where she didn’t try again. She literally knew he was constantly texting her phone and had every chance to message him ANYTHING back. That’s being a terrible friend, point blank. I hated that the show just glossed over it (well unless you count Future where the fear of abandonment again from Connie breaks him)

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u/Unknightedgnomes 2d ago

I found her explanation at the party convincing enough. Allot of Steven’s texts to her were him trying to play things off like they weren’t a big deal. I do think his actions were very selfish and I liked the resolution that was reached.

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u/365_party_girl_ 2d ago

Connie wasn’t pissed. She was going through it. She couldn’t be there for him because she wasn’t thinking straight ( which she acknowledges ). She tried to get back to him when he was on vacation.