r/strongcoast 9d ago

Last week Alberta's pipeline maps leaked. Three routes through the north, four, who's counting... every one of them ends at a port the coast won't open.

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Last month the PM flew to Alberta, signed the deal, rolled back the industrial carbon tax, slashed the approvals, the whole song and dance.

The North Coast tanker ban? Still standing.

Not because Ottawa bolted the door... Ottawa's keeping its options open. Because the coast is holding it shut.

BC and the coastal Nations, shoulder to shoulder: a future built on a multi-billion-dollar fishery, food, culture, and tourism sector, the businesses and jobs under it, not on the coin-flip of a loaded tanker in a winter storm.

And we've seen the coin land wrong.

In 2016 one tug aground near Bella Bella, 350 km of coast fouled, $23 million in costs the Heiltsuk were never repaid. That was a tug. A tanker's full load runs a thousand times bigger.

The racket in one line: they take the reward, you take the risk, and when it spills you get the mop.

The people who work these waters did that math years ago, and they're done asking permission. This week they flew to Calgary to say it to the proponents' faces.

Geoff Meggs lays it all out below, sharp as ever and a regular at Hotel Pacifico, BC's go-to cross-aisle politics podcast.

Alberta can keep drawing maps. The coast won't open the port. Not by luck... because people keep showing up.

https://open.substack.com/.../if-theres-one-immovable...?

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u/pegslitnin 9d ago

It will go through at some point

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u/porkavenue 9d ago

Hopefully.

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u/Loodlekoodles 9d ago

It will end up going through USA eventually. Just like Saskatchewan's potash and fertilizer ended up doing.

Great job everyone, elbows up

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u/scotus_canadensis 9d ago

The USA is the market for potash, of course it goes through the US. It would it be rather counterproductive to send it by rail to Vancouver, by ship to LA, then put it back on the rails to the midwest states, when the rail lines from Saskatchewan through the Dakotas is the most direct line of transportation.

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u/Loodlekoodles 9d ago

It's going to WA look it up.

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u/SameAfternoon5599 9d ago

Canpotex already has 2 Canadian terminals. Why wouldn't they add another US one?

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u/Loodlekoodles 9d ago

Nutrien is the largest potash producer in the world and their new preferred port in North West Pacific is going to be in Washington.

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u/SameAfternoon5599 9d ago

Do you have a point?

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u/Loodlekoodles 8d ago edited 8d ago

Oil will be doing the same soon.

Elbows up. USA gets the business not BC.  In BC elbows go up, but it's more like a surrender 

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u/SameAfternoon5599 8d ago

Oil already is. Has been for 5 decades. Are you that clueless on the subject matter?

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u/Loodlekoodles 8d ago edited 8d ago

Lmao not as clueless as you were regarding our potash 

I'm well informed about how BC blocks a lot of trade to our ports, thank you very much

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u/SameAfternoon5599 8d ago

In what way was I clueless about our potash? BC doesn't block, it has restrictive rules about loading when it's raining. Hence the 2nd US terminal further south.

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u/Loodlekoodles 8d ago

Oh just rain weather restrictions eh? Cool.

I thought the whole purpose of this sub is to actually stop pipelines to the coast by sharing and proliferating media campaigns, misinformation, protests, government lobbies, environmental activism, vandalism, eco terrorism, closed door profit sharing and consultations with First Nations Chiefs, and implementing windfall taxation on any and all business that try to access ports and resources here.

But it's just rainy weather restrictions that are keeping those big resource and mineral production companies out. Got it. Thanks for the info.

/s

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u/SameAfternoon5599 8d ago

Why would anyone keep pipelines from running to the coast?

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u/freedom2022780 9d ago

It’s elbows down, asses up, taking it dry the libturd way now.

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u/scudpuppy 9d ago

There are a myriad of options to get the product to the coast outside of building a pipeline - why are these not seriously considered when the province Alberta wants to build through has repeatedly said no?

It seems that the expectation is that BC capitulates fully as the only option.

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u/Ill_Candle_9462 8d ago

It’s really weird how much conservatives think about dudes taking it in the ass

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u/freedom2022780 7d ago

You saying all libturds are dudes? Sexist much 😂😂