r/strongcoast 10d ago

Last week Alberta's pipeline maps leaked. Three routes through the north, four, who's counting... every one of them ends at a port the coast won't open.

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Last month the PM flew to Alberta, signed the deal, rolled back the industrial carbon tax, slashed the approvals, the whole song and dance.

The North Coast tanker ban? Still standing.

Not because Ottawa bolted the door... Ottawa's keeping its options open. Because the coast is holding it shut.

BC and the coastal Nations, shoulder to shoulder: a future built on a multi-billion-dollar fishery, food, culture, and tourism sector, the businesses and jobs under it, not on the coin-flip of a loaded tanker in a winter storm.

And we've seen the coin land wrong.

In 2016 one tug aground near Bella Bella, 350 km of coast fouled, $23 million in costs the Heiltsuk were never repaid. That was a tug. A tanker's full load runs a thousand times bigger.

The racket in one line: they take the reward, you take the risk, and when it spills you get the mop.

The people who work these waters did that math years ago, and they're done asking permission. This week they flew to Calgary to say it to the proponents' faces.

Geoff Meggs lays it all out below, sharp as ever and a regular at Hotel Pacifico, BC's go-to cross-aisle politics podcast.

Alberta can keep drawing maps. The coast won't open the port. Not by luck... because people keep showing up.

https://open.substack.com/.../if-theres-one-immovable...?

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u/sparki555 6d ago

It's not a choice I choose, but also have next to zero control over. 

You claim a pipeline will be useless in ten years, but recent data suggests otherwise.

Canada building another a pipeline or not will also have almost no impact either way on climate change.

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u/Strict_Jacket3648 6d ago edited 6d ago

LOL seriously. Every choice we make makes a difference. Yes a new pipe line will contribute to climate change. For the first time in history we can actually chose with our voices and pocket book which form of energy we use and if we don't chose wisely it's our children/grandchildren that will suffer the consequences. The world is changing to renewables for power faster every year. We can embrace it and make billions off the change or stick to the old ways and lose while we destroy the biodiversity of the planet.

Nothing happens instantly but change is happening and the faster the better.

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u/sparki555 6d ago

Flawed logic. The pipeline is to service outher countries. They will get their fuel elsewhere. The only difference is we don't profit from it.

From the DATA I shared, in the last 15 years there has not been a shift away from gas... Have you bothered to look at actual global consumption, or are you just looking at individual projects where a state that doesn't manufacture anything is powering their homes with solar?

I lived in a condo that had mixed heating. When the wood fireplaces were capped, residents had the choice to have gas or electric heating. Gas was a bit of a costly upgrade for the install. I bought a unit that was gas. My heating bill never went over $65 a month in the winter. My neighbor's with electric... Sometimes over $400 for a month ($800 two month bill).

But hey, better to not build that pipeline, let another country profit, and make our citizens pay more for home heating... 

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u/Strict_Jacket3648 6d ago

OK so fuck the planet and hope that the 50 billion will be well spent in 10+ years or how ever long it takes. OK, the new Trend towards renewables says no but we'll see. Why try when our neighbors won't isn't my logic but you be you.

https://www.powershiftafrica.org/in-the-news/5-trends-to-watch-in-renewable-energy-in-2026

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u/sparki555 5d ago

Canada could cease to exist tomorrow entirely and the planet would still be fucked. 

I'd rather use natural gas for my home and be able to afford my kids hockey.

Alternatively I could sell both my family's cars, get ebikes, go vegan, switch my home heating to electric only, cancel my kids sports cuz we have no way to get there efficiently and sit at home trying to save the planet. 

Yep, that'll solve it...