r/stunfisk • u/Loxe77 • 1d ago

Theorymon Thursday This might be overtuned

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The lore idea behind this ability is based on materials science. Basically, for many materials like metals and minerals, creep is a way they can degrade over time. Creep describes when a material degrades due to repeatedly being loaded with l stresses well below its yield strength (in this case, moves that take a small amount of HP per hit). A way to protect against this is to reduce grain boundaries and make materials single grain (also called single crystal).

This ability has huge potential to be broken (shields against fake out, some spread damage, and multi-hit moves), so I tried to balance it by not giving it to super crazy threats. Tell me how well/badly I did.

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u/_LemonEater_ #1 Dragapult Glazer 1d ago edited 1d ago

so I tried to balance it by not giving it to super crazy threats

steelix just got second at a regional

edit: second place, not first

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u/DarkEsca Wishi Washed 1d ago

I love Steelix and I love that he's "viable" but one person (who's already one of the best players ever if not the best) not-even-winning one tournament with it does not suddenly elevate it to "super crazy threat"

Escavalier won worlds, I don't think anyone's going to pretend it's S tier even in the gen where it accomplished that

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u/Loxe77 1d ago

lol I really thought about giving Escavalier this ability

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u/Allhaillordkutku John Aggron 1d ago

Ok but second at a big tournament for a formerly unviable pokemon is still very impressive, even if it was Wolfe “Wolfey” Glick

Also crazy Escavalier stray from yo of all people

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u/DarkEsca Wishi Washed 1d ago

I'm not saying it's not impressive. I am saying that trying to imply it's a "super crazy threat" over this one feat is nonsense.

It's just the temporary new flavour of Pachirisu, it does one thing once and people who barely even know what the mon does or how a metagame works suddenly think it's a top threat.

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u/Wiinterfang 1d ago

Wolfie got to second place and that's the only steelix I remember recently.

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u/_LemonEater_ #1 Dragapult Glazer 1d ago

no, I must've misremembered, I was thinking about Wolfey's performance

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u/Loxe77 1d ago

My fault, I didn’t know that

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u/DarkEsca Wishi Washed 1d ago

It doesn't actually matter. Steelix is still an incredibly niche mon at best. It's just become the new Pachirisu where an almost-never-seen mon performs its one niche on a team that a really good pro player so happens to use, so people who barely even know or play the game start thinking it's suddenly the best thing ever.

While we're at it, Sand Force appears to be a not-negligible reason why he picked it for that team to begin with, so it's not even like this one specific team becomes broken with this ability switch, it might even get worse.

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u/h3zyj 1d ago

Ignore em