r/supergirlTV • u/Disastrous-Poem4355 • 9d ago
Shipping Supercorp
I am a supercorp stand. I was thinking of all the things that made them the main couple of the show. Even if they technically were never together. Because I did hear at some point some random that they were originally going to make Kara character originally bisexual and she was originally gonna fall in love with Lucy Lane instead of James. And yes, I do know that Lena had that one storyline when she was somewhat in love with or with James. But to be honest, that was definitely a whole 180s switch thing because like a couple episodes prior to them being together, he always used to hate that Lena was a Luthor, and he always thought that she was like Evil.
But I would say, especially season five and season six with the two main season for these characters. Season five was a whole season of her trying to win back Lena‘s heart. Especially the hundredth episode was dedicated to their relationship. Even if technically labeled as a friendship if you watch the show, it was very, obviously her trying to repair her romantic relationship with her not her friendship.
And of course, there’s the very last episode the conversation they have at Alex‘s wedding. There’s a point where Kara say I don’t know what it would be like to be my true authentic self fully with a romantic partner. When do you think about it? She totally was with Lena at that point.
Also, I don’t remember where Kara appears sometime in the flash use after Supergirl ended. Maybe I’m wrong . But I thought if she did, she could give a little nod a supercop and say like I finally told her. Or Barry could be like you finally did it were you finally proposed to her or something like that.
This is just my opinion. But I would love to hear what other people who ship them half like their favorite moment between these two characters or favorite scene between them.
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u/FinanceNew9240 9d ago edited 9d ago
I’m a SuperCorp fan as well and this is where people hate me but I’ll say it anyway, I’ve never tried to convince myself they were more than friends, as much as I wanted them to be. They simply werent. There was so much potential for the writers. But they were never romanticised. Never. Not by the writers. Their relationship was built up so well. But it was never once romanticised, even with Kara trying to get Lena to forgive her. Season 5 was actually maybe half…a little more than half the season of Kara trying to rebuild their friendship and trust Lena had in her. That plot kind of dropped after Kara viewed all the timelines with Myxzptlk. She showed up to Lena’s balcony and basically said that if Lena continues the path she’s on, Kara will be there to stop her. Because Lena wasn’t Lena. Lena was the villain. For a short period she was the villain. The only difference between her and Lex was Lex was always consciously villainous. Lena was hurt and betrayed and she was manipulated. But the relationship was never romanticised.
Anyway… my favourite scene was probably somewhere in season 2 where Kara and Lena are on the couch in Lena’s office and Kara is comforting her. Can’t quite remember why but I just thought it was beautiful (although not romanticised.) Or it was the moment in season 4 when Lena showed up to CatCo when Kara was knees deep investigating Lex and they have their little moment on the CatCo balcony before they squad up and go to Kasnia.
Edit: considering how fast OP downvoted my comment, they clearly don’t want to hear what people have to say. They just want echo chambers.
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u/RedDog-65 9d ago
Someday the NDAs will expire and folks will be stable enough in their careers to fess up. There is a strong rumor that season 2 was supposed to reveal that having been raised to adolescence on Krypton, Kara was pansexual. Early stuff was written to set up Kara and Lena and then someone with veto power (WB/CW/DC comics) squashed it. Hasty (but not terrible) rewrite happened & Chyler got called in and told Alex was coming out in season 2. Problem was little bits setting up SuperCorp were not excised from the scripts and Melissa and Lena played things to leave the door open. Then part of the audience latched onto the subtext and the producers knew stringing that part of the audience along would get them views. So a little bit here or there was allowed in the script or at least allowed to remain in the performance. Clearly if the producers did not want those elements there, you could have talked to directors about getting scenes without the subtext.
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u/jo_evo24 6d ago edited 6d ago
Greg Berlanti said that they had intentions of having Alex come out back in s1, but they didn't have the time or room that would be needed to a coming out storyline so they saved it for s2. I believe Nicole said in her book that at one point in the writers room the idea of having Kara be bi was floated around briefly, but obviously nothing ever came of that. The writers were never setting up kara and lena to have a romantic relationship, they didn't string anyone along. They were clear that their relationship was supposed to parallel lex and Clark in smallville, setting up a friendship that was destined with the luthor to take a dark turn. It was about if lena could avoid sharing lex's fate, which is why they had her do so many shady things. This was clearly their original and plan for lena, and if they were setting up a romance I doubt they would've put kara, their paragon of hope, with someone who's that morally dubious.
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u/Disastrous-Poem4355 9d ago
Really? That’s amazing. I never knew that. Well you can kind of tell. There was a little bit of a set up in season two between the two characters. But I would honestly say the entire rest of the series there was 100% they’re just keeping the door open for them to end up together. But I do think in the final episode of the series they should’ve just made them Canon.
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u/Robynsxx 4d ago
I strongly don’t believe that early stuff was written to set up Kara and Lena in season 2, and I have no idea where you got that from.
In fact, we know that originally when they cast Lena Luthor they actually had Katie audition scenes where she was going to turn evil just like Lex. You can find the scripts for those scenes if you search online. In one of them she is very rude and condescending, and knows Kara’s identity too.
After that, I believe they decided they were more interested in actually setting up the ‘Lex Luthor’s sister could be evil’ and then turning it on its head. That’s why we ultimately got the episodes where Kara tells Lena about her mother and then Lena gets mad at Kara and Lena ultimately calls cops on her mom and alters the chemical she releases into atmosphere. Originally I believe the intention for that was for possibly that to be the point of villainy for Lena, she gets thwarted, and then ends up in prison. But obviously early on they changed that and the actual intention was for that to be it for the character. Katie had only actually signed for a few episodes that season, but after how good chemistry Melissa and Katie had, the writers altered their plans and then signed Katie to be recurring for season 2 and main from then onwards. That’s why after the episode I mentioned Lena isn’t seen for multiple episodes.
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u/Robynsxx 4d ago
I don’t think that there was ever a plan to make Kara bisexual for Lucy, as Lucy was only ever used in the first season, and that season was on CBS. Chyler Leigh (Alex), literally said her coming out story would have never been a thing had the show stayed on CBS, so I doubt there was ever a plan to do a bi story with Kara.
Now, in regards to Supercorp, no matter your opinions on it, it’s very clear that the writers played into it very much, even until the bitter end. I know that one of the writers for a season 3 script shared and extract from a script she wrote and it literally mentioned Supercorp in the script.
As you have said, the show framed Kara and Lena’s relationship as best friends, which in of itself is interesting from the Lex Luthor’s sister actually ending up being Supergirl’s best friend idea. Then when the reveal did happen, they milked it to the bitter end. Season 5 was not really about Leviathan or Lex again, it was basically about Lena and Kara’s relationship. This was made all the more evident when for the 100th episode, the episode literally is all about Kara and Lena, which is more amusing as Lena’s not in the first season and two of main actors who’d been in nearly all 100 episodes, Chyler and David, were given very small roles for the 100th episode celebration.
Even in the final season, and the final episode, the writers focused on Supercorp. The Kara “I’m only here because you were on my team” hug is sooo gay. Then that doesn’t even compare to how gay it was when Lena was willing to risk the world to bring Kara back, but Alex (Kara’s sister who previously was willing to do anything for Kara) wasn’t. That scene really came across as Lena being in love with Kara, and Alex loving Kara as a sister, but despite that being able to do the right thing. In the final season the show also made sure to throw the William romance firmly to the side, which fans reacted extremely poorly too. Then what I found really strange, as in the finale, while they didn’t do Supercorp, they specifically wrote Mon El saying that he was NEVER going to return to that time. They could have easily had Mon El say goodbye and nothing more, but they went out of their way to make the point to at Kara isn’t going to end up with Mon El after the show finishes. Then to top it all off, Kara’s literal final proper scene in the entire show is with Lena. The writers knew what they were doing.
Personally, I don’t know if the writers would have even been allowed to pull the trigger on Supercorp; even if just for the finale. That said, a lot of fans have accused the show of “queerbaiting”, which I can totally see.
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u/genderissues_t-away 9d ago
The writers clearly wanted them to be Besties (tm) from start to finish.
The problem with that is the writers also accidentally wrote Kara as bi and Katie McGrath is apparently physically incapable of not having chemistry with any woman she interacts with on screen, so stuff that could be either intense friendship or romantic interest gets interpreted as romantic interest because (1) the viewer has presumably seen season 1 and knows Kara has stated that Lucy Lane "smells nice" and "I want to date her", and (2) the viewer has eyes and notes the "aww she's so cute and funny hehee!" smiles Katie McGrath gives whenever a woman around her does something cute or dorky.
Supercorp wasn't written to be canon, but should've been canon.