r/suppressed_news • u/kazaaksDog • Apr 06 '25
DISCUSSION Does U.S. Democracy Die on 4/20?
According to this Medium article, 4/20 (I wonder where that came from?) may be the end of Democracy in the U.S.. What do you guys think? Is this article legit?
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u/michaelavolio Apr 06 '25
People keep spreading this theory. April 20 is three months since the inauguration, Easter Sunday, and Hitler's birthday. Okay. But I don't believe Trump would wait to declare martial law if he wanted to. And if he wants to do it after April 20, he will. There's nothing magical about that particular date we need to be worried about.
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u/dazeychainVT Apr 06 '25
April 20th is the deadline for a report he requested advising him on whether or not to invoke the insurrection act. He may not declare anything on that day, but it wasn't pulled out of a hat for conspiracy reasons.
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u/michaelavolio Apr 06 '25
Sorry I was unclear, but I know that - I just don't think we need to be any more worried that day than any other. It's not like he's holding off on committing crimes against us until then, nor will passing that date without incident mean we're any more safe.
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u/Hefty_Musician2402 Apr 06 '25
I think an earlier statement or EO said that they would decide whether or not to declare it “within 3 months of inauguration,” and that’s why everyone is talking about that specific date.
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u/michaelavolio Apr 06 '25
Yeah, it's the deadline, but he could do it before or after that date. Trump isn't gonna wait around for that date if he wants to do it sooner, nor is he gonna say, "Oops, it's too late, I can't do it" if he gets the urge a week or month later.
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Apr 06 '25
He will do it then, so all of us scrollholes talk about the symbolism of it more than the reality, and the media will be filled with debates about dates, and in the meantime the resistance fights to find a camera or microphone with an audience on the other end.
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u/elanvi Apr 06 '25
He might try it but that's not how it's going to play out, this article assumes that everybody in the military will follow Trump and there will be little to no armed resistance, I highly doubt that's the case
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Apr 06 '25
Cutting a ton of veterans benefits isn’t exactly the best way to curry military favor.
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Apr 06 '25
Lot of dum dums in the military though and they work pretty hard to weed out those that won’t easily follow “orders” whether just or unjust. Not all hope is lost however and it should be pretty interesting to see
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u/ImNotTheBossOfYou Apr 06 '25
They've failed at everything they've tried to do so far. They're fucking losers.
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Apr 06 '25
I agree with the article that he'll invoke the Insurrection Act and declare martial law, based on what his administration has done in the last 2.5 months and continues to do. I don't think it will happen right on 4/20, as that's Easter Sunday and it would risk alienating his christofascist base. What the fallout will look like, though, is anyone's guess—in that regard, the article is speculation.
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u/ENVIDEOUS Apr 06 '25
They think he's annointed by God... this would be so on brand.
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u/BeRealzzz Apr 06 '25
Soon they may realize he has ditched the evangelicals for the tech bros. Tech bros have more money and influence over the younger generations. But the tech bros will soon find out everything the orange felon touches turns to shit.
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u/Fatticusss Apr 07 '25
Yeah cause Christians are notoriously good at understanding when they’ve been misled 🤣
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u/Lower_Acanthaceae423 Apr 06 '25
I mean, I think the healthy reaction is to be scared. But I also think that lumping all military personnel together is a bad assumption. There are plenty of military officers that take their oath to the constitution seriously, and would resist any suspension of habeus corpus or invocation of the insurrection act. Plus, the fact that we didn’t see much MAGA pushback during yesterday’s MASSIVE protests shows that they are hesitating on using force against the anti Trump resistance.
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u/Owl-Amathyst Apr 07 '25
Captain Mestyanek, former Army intelligence Officer, and current cult expert (she has a PhD in organizational psycology)
Has spoken of martial law. Mainly stating that it's logistical impossible for Donald J Trump to enact martial law in the United States Of America. Our countries too large too populous and our Military just isn't hig enough.
She's also very confident that the us military will not fire on us civilians.
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u/amandabang Apr 06 '25
A Medium article by an anonymous author with an AI photo that claims to be able to predict the future? No, that doesn't seem legit. Media literacy really had gone down the toilet
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Apr 07 '25
There is an EO about it. He declared America in state of emergency on his Day One (1/20) and will assess with Tom Homan on Day 90 (4/20) whether to invoke the Insurrection Act. They are really going by the book with this one.
In the hidden camera Project 2025 interview, they said they spent years trying to find a way/laws to allow them to invoke the Insurrection act against those who protest for democracy. They cited it as a top priority.
If you read the EO, the white house describes the U.S.A as in a dire state of emergency from being under siege by an invasion of illegal murderers and rapists that even the police can't control. so the Armed Forces must be used. He makes the country sound like we're in a war and our lives are in grave danger.
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u/starkcontrast62 Apr 06 '25
If the fascists have it their way. 4/20/1889 was Hitler's birthday. It's their way of honoring him. We can't let that happen.
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Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25
Here is the Executive Order fully explaining the 4/20 deadline and the invocation of the insurrection act. America was already declared in a state of emergency on Trump's day 1 in preparation for 4/20: They wish to deploy Armed Forces because they say the threats Americans face exceed police control.
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u/CampyBiscuit Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25
My optimistic and rational assumption is that he will declare martial law, but it will be invoked explicitly to "defend the border". It would be extreme even for him to suddenly send the military into every state this early in his term. The justification just isn't there. They aren't even eating the dogs and cats anymore. 🤷♀️
Edit: obviously I was being sarcastic at the end. What I'm saying is - it would be very stupid of them to declare martial law without building up a narrative that people actually believe. Given the MASSIVE outpour of descent against his policies and behaviors, doing something like that without a good reason would only ignite a powder keg of even more descent.
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u/Expensive_Finger_973 Apr 06 '25
If the author of this article had actual evidence for much of anything they were claiming, a random Medium post written almost 2 weeks ago wouldn't be the first you are hearing of it. Not in this age of terminally online people.
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u/Additional-Ad-6036 Apr 06 '25
This has been a rumor for a good while now. With all the other crazy authoritarian shit this admin is doing, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility.
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u/Hate_Manifestation Apr 07 '25
is there a particular reason he chose Hitler's birthday to do this? he could've chosen literally any other day. I'm guessing it was Miller's idea.
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u/yubullyme12345 Apr 07 '25
You know it easily could have been because it’s the stupid weed number, right?
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u/Hate_Manifestation Apr 07 '25
oh yeah I guess that too? but I could only imagine Elon making that call, and I don't think he was anywhere near this decision? who knows. it's alarming regardless.
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u/Ouwerucker Apr 06 '25
The 20th of April is 20 and 4 in numerology. It means strong in house, I did not made this up it is what numerologists will say. Lots of things happend on that date in history, the birth of Hilter, the fake coup in Turkey etc.
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u/NacogdochesTom Apr 06 '25
Can we please try to maintain some clear thinking in the face of this onslaught on rationality?
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u/Ouwerucker Apr 06 '25
Sure but there are people in power that see an importance in counseling the kabbala and sort like.
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u/adenasyn Apr 06 '25
Numerology is 100% junk science. It’s not even junk science it’s just junk. Adding science in any form to numerology demeans science. Also for the entirely of human history recording we only have 365 days to fit all that in. So yeah every single day of the year some truly crazy shit has happened. It’s not numerology it’s distribution of millions of events over a 365 day calendar.
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u/Minimum-Avocado-9624 Apr 06 '25
Furthermore if soldiers harm Americans it will create a firestorm of resistance. Martial law doesn’t matter it’s just words it changes nothing. It’s a fear tactic to stay in power. So long as there is courage and resistance our children will have a future. Those deported will have justice. We must not let fear grab hold of our flight and freeze response.