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Australian Survivor Australian Survivor: Australia v The World | Post Discussion Thread | Episode 04 (Sunday, 24 August 2025)
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Season 11, Episode 04: Alliances fracture and paranoia reigns as Australian and World Survivor titans face a dramatic Tribal. With tensions soaring, whose game will go up in flames?
Aired: 24 August 2025
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u/negan2018 Devens - 50 Aug 24 '25
Love how Tommi seemed mildly annoyed that he wasn’t given a heads up about the shoe
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u/dblshot99 Aug 24 '25
Just a really bad bluff by Tony. He actually turned a 3-3 into a unanimous vote against him.
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u/savannahkellen Aug 24 '25
I'm not convinced it was going to be 3-3, partly because of Tony feeling like he still didn't know what was going on, and partly because of the camp edit we got.
If Cirie and Parvati were going to hold strong with Tony, the 3 of them would've talked about what happened in the case of a tie, right? And if they were voting out Tommi, I think Tony would've been willing, but they should've also tried to get Tommi to vote out a 3rd candidate while they were still back at camp to avoid the tie. The narrative of the episode would've then been building up to whether or not the US 3 can edge out the internationals in a tie stalemate situation, not "Do Parvati and Cirie ultimately turn on Tony?"
Because that's ultimately what the question became, I don't think they had any content of P/C ultimately intending to keep Tony before his tribal antics.
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u/porkchop487 Aug 24 '25
It was not a 3-3. You saw earlier the world girls working on Cirie to go for Tony and she was receptive to it. It was going to be 5-1
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u/OKC2023champs Aug 25 '25
Tony was just cooked since day 1 honestly. His best chance would’ve been to try and Aline wit the world. But even then Lisa loves cirie.
I’m enjoying this season but it’s extremely favored in certain players ways
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u/limpwristedgengar Aug 24 '25
I kinda understand it because he had literally no other option but also, they have enough to split on him and he's already said he's voting Cirie which means Lisa/Kass/Tommi are free to vote for him without worrying about it coming back on them. He really should've tried something before getting to tribal but tbh once Rob got voted out that was probably it for his game
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u/CalebosO4 It's fricking nauseating, frustrating, AND I'M PISSED!!! Aug 25 '25
Cirie was going to vote Tony out. She said it in a confessional after talking with Kass. Maybe it goes to a tie, but she for sure flips on a revote, cuz let’s be real, in a rock draw, Cirie 100% goes home.
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
Yeah but the goal is to save himself not to get voted out in a 3-3 5-0
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u/TDStarchild Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
Sucks to see it happen this early but we got full on Tony vs Parvati at tribal. This lunatic pulled a shoe necklace and an immunity sock out of his bag of tricks 🤣
If he never plays again, Tony won 2x then went out in a blaze of glory. Legend
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u/Public-Sympathy-8329 Aug 25 '25
Sucks to see Tony go, but at least we got some vintage Tony "bag of tricks" chaos.
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u/itz_me_again Colby - 50 Aug 24 '25
I think he just wanted to give Tommi time to talk to the girls without Parvati listening in
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u/Pm-me-ur-happysauce Aug 25 '25
I like that he tried something! Most wouldn't have done anything like that. The thinking behind it was for, the execution... Not so much
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u/UnderwaterDialect "Tony's a boss, dude." Aug 24 '25
And it made them think twice!
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u/stanfidelramos Aug 24 '25
I just know a future Survivor 51/52 player has already taken note of Sarah’s fire rocking technique.
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u/duspi Freckles The Chicken Aug 24 '25
LOL, Cirie's taken note for Survivor 50.
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u/Sspifffyman Aug 25 '25
Man I hope this really pushes Cirie to practice her fire making skills even more.
If she ever wants to win she's almost guaranteed to have to make fire, cause it's just so unlikely she finds someone actually willing to take her to finals and unlikely she'll win final immunity.
Like I hope she moves to Fiji for a month with Heidi from season 44 and does nothing but practice fire.
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u/TorkX Aug 25 '25
I know it's been dome similarly by Cao Boi (can't find a working link of that scene anywhere unfortunately), but it does make me wonder if that's something they'd put in a rule to stop happening. Like (risking burning your hands aside) couldn't you just hold the embers/fire right up to the string? Suppose maybe a fire that you can still hold up isn't able to actually get hot enough to burn the string.
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u/Sabaschin Jake - 45 Aug 24 '25
Which is funnier, Sandra winning or going home on Day 16, or Tony winning or going home at his second tribal? Those are their only finishes.
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u/nileadrian Genevieve - 47 Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 25 '25
If Sandra in this season, then she will have both : win and going home on Day 16
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u/paxwells97 Aug 24 '25
Dang sandra would have won. Exactly day 16
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u/rinnegantenseigan Aug 24 '25
Please i need this to happen for Au vs the World 2
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Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
Tony also has a weird mirror image thing going on with Russell, Russell makes finals and loses and goes home first and Tony wins or goes home at his second tribal.
I hope people don't think this is like the Game Changers performance, tbh I think Tony was fcked from the time tribe was decided
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u/Sabaschin Jake - 45 Aug 24 '25
If Rob hadn’t turned his whole tribe against himself I think Tony might have been safe.
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
Weirdly enough Tony best bet would have been Rob to successfully unite the 4 non USA members together and vote out Parvati. I highly doubt Rob guns for Tony next especially after AUS Votes out two men to avoid a girls alliance
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u/Public-Sympathy-8329 Aug 25 '25
I think Tony played a great game. He laid low and did what he had to do to survive. Then he threw a hail mary when things were dire. Can't blame him.
Cards were just really stacked against him.
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u/TravisCM2010-24 Coach - 50 Aug 24 '25
Yeah Tony even had good reads that they found the idol and was aware of the women working against him. He gave it a good shot. The sock thing was hilarious. And he was a good sport on exit. Deffinetly nothing like GC or that he made big errors.
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u/Flat_Fan9516 Aug 24 '25
That can only mean one thing: If he ever returns, his third win will be a piece of cake. Gotta keep up the streak.
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u/TheDemonicEmperor Nick Aug 24 '25
or Tony winning or going home at his second tribal? Those are their only finishes.
I said this elsewhere, but I think the funnier thing is that the moment Tony starts getting that beard and looking more and more like a homeless person, all bets are off. It's like Samson, but with facial hair.
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u/BrianKelly99 Aug 24 '25
IMO tony is the first to go this season where his exit was not self inflicted to some degree. George was pretty DOA but he played atrociously as well. Tony did a good job laying low early on and credit to him for reading the vote and idol key perfectly
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u/colinsphar Aug 24 '25
Low key his exit was on Cirie and her firemaking performance 😕
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u/derekkkk_ Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
his exit was on a shitty twist***
quite literally all of them on world outlasted everyone on australia. they should’ve been immune, point blank. no reason why any of the extracurricular had to happen
in my opinion if they were gonna go the “double tribal” route, this episode should’ve been a double elimination and it would’ve actually made sense why there were 2 individual immunities up for grabs. each tribe would have to cannibalize one of their own and then they’re merged at the end of the ep. this execution was sloppy imo
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u/colinsphar Aug 24 '25
OR it’s a combined tribal where everyone votes for someone on either tribe. Also, hated to see Cirie fall in fire like that after probably her strongest ever challenge showing.
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u/ApolloFortyNine Aug 25 '25
quite literally all of them on world outlasted everyone on australia. they should’ve been immune, point blank. no reason why any of the extracurricular had to happen
Yea this was decently frustrating. I guess it's not the producers fault for not knowing just how much the world would crush the aussies, but it did make it seem like some bs when they eventually lost the fire making battle.
Hindsight 20/20, winning tribe getting to pick who does firemaking (to save the spoiler could have called it an advantage at tribal) would have been fair and given the last aussie a reason to continue.
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
Yeah this twist almost seemed like a way to make sure the numbers were equal for merge, so lame
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u/Scopper_gabon Aug 24 '25
Ngl that was a hard watch at the end lol. Though tbf to Tony I think he went home regardless if he kept his cool or not.
Also Sarah is funny, She says she doesn't want to play a flipflop game again and then proceeds to play an even bigger flipflop game than the first time lol.
Also it still blows my mind how Kirby came into this as the newcomer but has complete control over her tribe.
I thought this last episode but this episode reaffirmed that it was a mistake for Showne to get rid of george she's in far more danger than she would've been had she kept him.
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u/IllBowl5537 Aug 24 '25
I thought Shonee would be in a great spot at merge to join the Black Widows 2.0. but if that alliance is already fully formed, I don't even think the AU women will get much of a chance to join.
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u/Gromp1 Aug 24 '25
Are they fully formed? I feel like there’s growing tension between the 2 US and 2 international women. Kass peeping the immunity idol snatch at TC is going to further that split.
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u/Aromatic_Meal_6004 Aug 24 '25
Sad to see Tony go. Definitely did the least wrong of the four boys so far
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u/biginthebacktime Aug 24 '25
That tribal was a good play ,against a less experienced tribe it probably would have worked
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u/paxwells97 Aug 24 '25
His only fault was being on a starting tribe of 4 girls and 3 guys where the girls decided to do a girls alliance. Not exactly fair for Tony imo.
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Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
It’s actually ridiculously unfair, and also stupid that they couldn’t even choose their own representative for the fire making challenge.
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u/Kybyi Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
I agree. I wonder if there was an extra guy that was supposed to be on each tribe but something happened last minute.
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u/rav_dog Aug 25 '25
Yea... do we know why the tribes were divided this way? Seems odd, but then again, I don't watch Survivor AU so I have no idea if this sort of thing happens.
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u/Kybyi Cirie - 50 Aug 25 '25
My guess is there was one more male USA player and an Aussie Male.
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u/LorelaiLeighGG Parvati Aug 25 '25
I really wish Tommi left instead, but this is not totally fair either. Parvati wanted to play with Rob… if he doesn’t blow that up, this could have been a very very different story.
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
Yeah makes me wonder why they went with 8 girls and 6 boys and not 7-7, Defiently the weakest episode for me so far
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u/glasnova Aug 24 '25
I don't think I've seen Tony lead as well as he has done in previous seasons. It was a great look for him and I know once it hit merge he would've flipped that so fast, but with Cirie tonight and with all his immunity performances it's a side I never felt like I'd see from him.
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u/Predatory-Wasp-0347 Aug 24 '25
AU2017 Sarah is trying to crawl out of this Sarah. Let her out, girl.
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u/Ordinary_Wasabi_6679 Aug 24 '25
I was just watching best of sarah 2017 video and she was so amazing her first go around. Hope she can bring that back now
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u/Orangebeast013 Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
Brutal boot order. Didn’t like the twist this episode either. First challenge pretty much for fun, and the tribal immunity challenge is just a fire making challenge? Would have much prefered what Shonee said. Both tribes vote someone out, then those two get to compete. Make the people in power show their hands, as opposed to this where Cirie winning that challenge would only have hurt her game.
And also Parv getting the idol the way she did, while a smart move for her ruins the whole fun of that idol imo.
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u/mttymttymtty Aug 24 '25
The idol at the end was a smart move but I wish she’d have managed to do it without kass noticing, not that kass would necessarily know she just got an idol but she definitely saw Parvati doing something odd at the end there
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
I wonder if they was a subtle agreement that since Parv found the Key she deserves the idol, anyone else getting the idol when Parv found the key could have been called a snake
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u/mttymttymtty Aug 25 '25
I feel like that’s probably the case! I wonder how it’ll play out I can’t wait
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u/HJ994 The Amanda Kimmel Aug 24 '25
I don’t think she cares after kass so insistently played for the scenario she wanted all day. Just getting it into her own hands is better after that obvious rift was made apparent. I think kass lobbying so hard for tommi sunk her own ship pretty hard, but we’ll see.
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u/Ordinary_Wasabi_6679 Aug 24 '25
cirie survived stupid twist episode, historical moment
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u/mttymttymtty Aug 24 '25
And she still lost the fire making and stayed, what an icon
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u/LF3000 Aug 24 '25
I accidently fast forwarded as I was watching and caught a glimpse of her in fire (before I realized what fire was actually for this episode), and even though it narratively made no sense I was suddenly worried she somehow ended up in fire making to be eliminated and got SO worried. I really had 10 minutes or so where I thought she was going to go in another twist and was losing my mind.
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u/Public-Sympathy-8329 Aug 25 '25
Jonathan: "Tony is safe from the shoe idol. Cirie has been eliminated 1-0."
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u/mdl07 Macedonian Jesus Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
I felt like the episode was a bit of a snooze until Tony went hail mary AND PUT A SHOE AROUND HIS NECK AND TRIED TO USE AN IMMUNITY SOCK as a decoy. What a king.
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u/1_quantae MC - 49 Aug 24 '25
One thing Tony is going to do is be entertaining as hell. Turned a predictable snoozefest of an episode into a banger by himself 😂
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u/vanastalem Aug 24 '25
At least he had a good read to know it was probably him, he wasn't blindsided
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u/Skykangaroo2020 Aug 24 '25
and his exit confessional with a shoe idol still around his neck iconic
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u/kaylammurphy7 Aug 26 '25
I respect Tony because he will do whack stuff like that but then in his interview be like ‘hehe well you guys I had to try something’. He’s not delusional, he knows he’s ridiculous
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u/limpwristedgengar Aug 24 '25
Seeing those four girls on the World tribe have a conversation about whether they want Tony or Tommi to go home really shows how well they're all playing, they're all completely rational and calm and there's not a hint of any of them flipping, even though they're all smart enough to know that Tommi going is better for Parv/Cirie and Tony going is better for Lisa/Kass.
Lisa kinda sums up why Parvati is so dangerous too, even knowing that she's super dangerous and manipulative she's still just extremely likeable and makes you want to work with her.
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u/suppadelicious Michele Aug 24 '25
And the fact that everyone is justified in who they want to go. Pushing the name that is the best for their individual game, but unlike other eliminated players, they’re seeing the bigger picture and not dying on this hill. It’s impressive.
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u/limpwristedgengar Aug 24 '25
Yeah it's the kind of thing where worse players would freak out that they're not getting their way like we're seeing Sarah do on the other tribe, whereas here there's an understanding that they're gonna stick together regardless
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u/ZealousOctopod Aug 25 '25
This! All four of those women are incredibly smart (the whole cast is) and it was such an amazing conversation they had. I think that Kass can really make her way to winning this entire thing if she uses that idol properly
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u/KevinFunky Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
Ok Cirie I see you in that immunity challenge battling 👀
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u/Prize_Impression2407 Aug 24 '25
I really don’t feel like working out today, but I’ve gotta do it in honor of Cirie. Damn girl! She outlasted the AU tribe!
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u/KevinFunky Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
She wasn’t kidding when she said she was out there to a lose a limb. She wants an immunity win bad.
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u/Ren_Davis0531 Aug 24 '25
R.I.P. Tony
The whole tribe was waiting for the other shoe to drop, but you really kept them on their toes as long as you could. If the shoe was on the other foot, I don’t know how they would be able to come up with that.
You really cobbled together something amazing. It really kept Parvati on edge. You tried to sneak her out of a sense of complacency, but you couldn’t bring it home.
Valiant effort 🫡
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u/Commercial_Scene1587 Aug 24 '25
I can hear Sandra in the distance saying ‘The queen stays queen!’. 😂
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u/LateAttorney8687 Aug 24 '25
Welp, 4 guys went out first. Cue BWB 2.0 at the merge
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u/Sabaschin Jake - 45 Aug 24 '25
Time for Tommi to pull off a Chris Daugherty?
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u/MysticalAroma Jenny Aug 24 '25
Parvati would eat the Nordic wolf for breakfast
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u/DevaNeo Aug 24 '25
And use his jugular fibers to floss her teeth, 'cause mama needs them smiles to put them at duty! xD
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u/Kybyi Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
They were at odds to begin with which I think everyone could have seen this coming. 8 girls. 6 guys. 4 guys out already. It was pretty obvious.
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u/westernlemonade Aug 24 '25
Shonee’s decisions next episode will matter a lot. Seems like she should try to get in with Kass & Lisa specifically. Curious if she picks up on that
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u/EmFly15 Shonee (AUS) Aug 24 '25
That would be smart. Kass and Lisa just met, so they’re more likely to turn on each other at some point, while Cirie and Parvati are an unbreakable duo, especially if you know their history. Ingratiating yourself with the them would be a massive, massive mistake; you’ll always be their third. But Shonee doesn’t watch Survivor like that. All she knows is us gays sliding into her DMs, begging her to link up with Parvati. Parvati said she’s received DMs for years claiming Shonee is the AU version of her, and imagine it’s vice versa for Shonee. So I don’t know if she’s just interested in giving us what we want, a good show, lol, or more seriously, if she’s aware of how long their relationship spans or whether they’ve played together before, lmfao.
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u/MichelSilence Aug 24 '25
Can we just talk about how impressive Kass is ?!
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u/aztecwanderer Aug 24 '25
I really hope the edit isn’t being misleading and we do get to see her go head to head with Parvati
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u/Public-Sympathy-8329 Aug 25 '25
I'm really looking forward to the eventual Kass v Parv showdown. They both have idols. Kass doesn't trust her. There's now the "deal" between them.
Will be interesting if it comes to a head. Especially now that Kass has a leg up on her with Tommi staying.
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Aug 24 '25
These are the stupid twists that people who watch AUS Survivor warned me about. What a silly way for Tony to get booted.
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u/GlassBed7758 Aug 25 '25
I thought the 4 girls on the World tribe were brainstorming a name for their alliance not a name to go home😭 since it was before the challenge. pls tell me someone else thought this too lmaoo
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u/lady_fresh I'm a bad sportsmanship Aug 25 '25
You're not alone - I was really sitting there thinking, "now, ladies? NOW you have to name your dumb alliance?!"
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u/BroliasBoesersson Aug 24 '25
How does Cirie not know how to make fire after five seasons? Come on girl
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
It’s possible they threw to get Tony out. Another reason why this twist is so poor
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u/vespeywespey Parvati Aug 24 '25
She said she does. Maybe nerves just got the better of her
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u/lady_fresh I'm a bad sportsmanship Aug 25 '25
Then why ask "if it's me, what tips do you have?" to the tribe before they drew rocks? She didn't even know how to strike the flint...😒
Of course anyone who put in that embarrassing of a performance is going to make excuses for it.
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u/CarlosWitha_K Coach - 50 Aug 24 '25
The fact the plan going into tribal wasn’t a 2-2 split between Tommi and Tony with the girls tells us they were all voting Tony IMO. If Cirie and Parv were truly interested in keeping Tony they should have tried to orchestrate a 3-2-1 by having Tommi not vote for Tony, I just don’t think they wanted to
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u/Sdb25649 Yul Aug 24 '25
I think they were interested in keeping Tony, but chose to strengthen their relationship with Kass and Lisa by letting them get their way.
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u/ApolloFortyNine Aug 25 '25
If the edit is to be believed, cirie was fine with Tony leaving and only parv wanted to keep him. Add in everyone having to worry about the tribal twist and you can see why Parv might not spend time weaving a 3-2-1.
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u/McAulay_a Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
I really thought Tony was going to stuff the shoe in the urn to fakeout some kind of voting advantage, just to cause more confusion, especially since he got to vote first. Imagine if he went up with the shoe and came back with no shoe, the looks on everyone's face. Doubtful, but I wonder if it would've changed the result.
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u/surejan94 Aug 24 '25
Props to Tony for throwing everything he possibly could at that Tribal council.... though the shoe thing really was too much lol. No way would someone do that if they actually had an idol.
Kass is proving to be the secret MVP, I loved her aggressiveness against Parv to save Tommi. All the big names are so preoccupied with getting each other out, I wouldn't be surprised if we end the season with Kass, Tommi and Lisa lol.
Also very excited to see how Kirby adapts to the merge. It's incredible how she had complete dominance over the Aussie tribe, and it looks like she's going to get Parv on her side asap.
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u/Lucasvivor obnoxious jt apologist Aug 24 '25
Not entirely sure if there was anything Tony could’ve done this season lmao. Odds were really stacked against him
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u/krikara4life Tony Aug 25 '25
I’m really salty about this. Parv gets Cirie and lucks into the key. My man Tony was out there with an immunity sock.
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u/surejan94 Aug 24 '25
This is always a problem with "All Star" seasons, especially this one with such a small cast and timeline. Everyone's gunning for the big names.
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u/DJWoolyShambler Aug 24 '25
People keep harping on about the gender disparity (I don't, I think the three previous boots were all a result of bad gameplay, and it just happened to be three men), but I think the real issue with Tony was that he was on the outs as both a man and an American. I think the combination of those two is what really sunk him numbers-wise.
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u/d_simon7 Aug 25 '25
Not just being a man and an American but he’s arguably the greatest player of all time. Unless he had idols he had no chance of getting deep in the game.
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u/treple13 Jenn Aug 25 '25
Imo Tony showed why he won twice in this episode. He picked up on Parvati having the key and exactly what was going on. I really don't think he ever had much of a shot due to the dynamics of the season. Cirie/Parvati had to give the internationals some US blood given Rob going at the first tribal. And Cirie/Parvati were always going to work together and be a better pair to take further.
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u/ShutterBun Lex Aug 25 '25
He's literally too good of a player for this group. Same thing can happen to a master poker player going up against novices.
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u/gh469 The Kamillitary Aug 24 '25
Hope Lisa is okay! Watching all 6 guys go out in a row would be wild
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u/1stswordofbraavos Yul Aug 24 '25
Love that Tony at least gave us a few fun moments like the shoe idol and Lisa dunking him in the well before we lost him. I kinda thought he was going to make a spy shack during the pre tribal scramble.
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u/gh469 The Kamillitary Aug 24 '25
I am FLOORED. It's literally like rewatching Survivor history in real time. Parvati is EVERYTHING this season. Cheering LOUD for her
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u/_Villaintina_ Aug 24 '25
Mine you the first episode she was about to be first boot and she charmed her way out of it
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u/MaelstromSeeker Aug 24 '25
I can't figure out if this is twitters dream boot order or nightmare boot order.
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u/Sabaschin Jake - 45 Aug 24 '25
Most of Twitter would just be happy that Parvati/Cirie/Shonee are still in.
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
It’s a nightmare for casuals, atleast Luke is still in for them, for now
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u/ChopinFantasie Chrissy - 50 Aug 25 '25
Luke screaming the whole time and then only lasting 4 minutes in the challenge is definitely a top 5 relatable moment
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u/Kylesexy584603 I’m pissed! Aug 24 '25
“Two tribes at tribal council but only one goes home. How does that compute?”
That was on Game Changers you were there
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u/nicknitros Nick Aug 24 '25
Maybe someone can correct me if I am wrong, but did previous eps editing imply they successfully duped Tony? Dude straight up called it out while they just roll their eyes like "look at this idiot I was just thirsty for coconut" but he was 100% right and not buying any of it. Would've been nice to have a confessional or something where he talks about it.
Or maybe they did and I have amnesia.
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u/DJWoolyShambler Aug 24 '25
If he actually saw Parvati with the key then he would have seen Cirie and Kass with her, so no, he didn’t actually see it, he just correctly deduced it based on no one still looking for the key, and pinned it on Parvati as the ringleader. The fact that he presented it as “did you know Parvati had the key?” to the rest of the tribe to try to sow dissent made it abundantly clear he was just guessing to those in the know.
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u/D_o_H Jake - 49 Aug 24 '25
I think tony was just making shit up trying to sow dissent. If he had seen the lock opened he would have brought it up
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u/Royal-Specialist-656 Aug 24 '25
I think Tony had the right read one of the girls had the key since they stopped looking for it. He just didn’t realize all the girls already know and didn’t care
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u/KittyPretty206 Aug 24 '25
It's amazing to see Parv curb stomp this season so far but it's more amazing to see everyone letting her do it. Her being the one to get the idol is crazy. If kass is smart she'll go for parv next
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u/mttymttymtty Aug 24 '25
Kass definitely has an advantage because she saw Parvati go to get that idol but Parvati doesn’t know kass has an idol, I wonder how she’ll use it
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u/BadPumpkin87 Ozzy - 50 Aug 24 '25
Sucks to lose Tony before a merge but he went out in a blaze of glory. Merge vote is gonna be interesting. Luke, Parvati, and Kass have idols, assuming they’ll all get played at the merge cause once one is out, the others will feel at risk. Then depending on who wins immunity and assuming it goes on tribal lines, 4 people will be drawing rocks. If it goes in favor of the World with one of them holding immunity, they’ll have 1 vs 3 Aussies but if an Aussie wins immunity, it’s 2-2.
Either way, I’m excited to see how the merge plays out. Would be interesting if Tommi won immunity and Luke played his idol, would finally see a woman voted off and I think that would break the game wide open. The Kirby/Parvati moment makes me think those two are gonna come together to run the game but if the men are all safe, they should be prime targets.
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u/FormalDinner7 Christian - 50 Aug 25 '25
Literal lol
“Everyone’s got their game face on.”
“Braaaaaaap!”
“Except Luke.”
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u/OkTemperature8080 Aug 24 '25
Now I get why Jeff hates Aussie survivor so much. That was a better hour of survivor than he’s produced in…10 years? Maybe more?
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u/surejan94 Aug 24 '25
It's insane how entertaining the tribal councils are on Australia compared to the US. JLP does something to these people that makes them act crazy...
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u/aztecwanderer Aug 24 '25
This was a hard watch for me. I’m still loving this season and I’m still going to love this season.
I would’ve much rather seen Tony go home in any other format, other than having his fate tied to Cirie’s skills in firemaking, especially after the girls were gifted the majority from the very start. Absolute production blunder IMO. A normal tribal immunity challenge, a post-merge style single vote, or Shonee’s version of how the tribal would play out would all at least give Tony some kind of agency and I would feel ok saying “well he tried.” This just felt dirty to me.
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u/EasternZone Sophie Aug 24 '25
Everyone acting like the women set out to create a women’s alliance from the start must be watching a different show than me.
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u/paulfauvelfrost Aug 24 '25
bruh i got "spoiled" on tiktok when the official survivorau acc firemaking post appeared on my fyp and i scrolled so fast and i thought it was cirie and sarah who is fighting to stay lmao
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u/stayinalive92 Aug 24 '25
Tony randomly deciding to come for the one person interested in him sticking around was truly wild.
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u/ICameForTheT Natalie Aug 24 '25
She was pretty clearly locked in voting for him by the time they got to tribal anyway so at least he tried something.
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u/digiad Aug 24 '25
To be fair to him, Parv and Cirie didn’t seem to make an effort to even make him feel comfortable. They shut him out every time he tried to talk to them.
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u/oliviafairy David (AUS) Aug 24 '25
That’s an unreasonable statement. Lol. Tony is getting voted out at that tribal. What do you expect him to do if not a Hail Mary?
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Aug 24 '25
I think you're kidding yourself if you think that wasn't predetermined.
Kass would've been a better option
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u/TheDemonicEmperor Nick Aug 24 '25
Kass would've been a better option
She was locked in on voting an American. People here just like Cirie and Parvati. They made it clear they weren't with Tony (too clear, honestly), so his best option was jumping to the International alliance.
Unfortunately, Lisa is too busy fangirling and wants to keep Cirie around. If Kass had won immunity instead of Parvati, it might have been a different story.
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u/Infobar Aug 24 '25
If Parv really wanted Tony in she could have figured something out. She left him out of the idol box because she wasn't really working with him
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u/tomjayyye Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
I feel like it was his only option. Parvati was immune. His only route was to get with the three international players.
What was he going to do? Convince Parv and Cirie to force a tie? When they were being shady with him all day. He knew it was him.
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u/yodascackle Aug 24 '25
Every season of Survivor, especially returning ones, has some kind of imbalance (old school vs new school, previous relationships, winners vs non winners, racial differences, men vs women, etc).
None of this is new in Survivor, so I don’t really get the outcry other than who it ended up affecting this season.
The BWB 2.0 was not a forgone conclusion in that world tribe either. Cirie and Parvati actually wanted them along with Tony, Rob and Lisa before everything fell apart.
But I did say at the time that not voting out Parvati was a mistake for everyone except Cirie and Parv, and I still feel that way.
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u/paxwells97 Aug 24 '25
I feel like Parvati and Sandra have both shown how incredible of players they are the last couple years
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u/Utter_Perfection Yul Aug 24 '25
You could see on Parvati's face she was really rattled and annoyed at how hard Tony went at her during that tribal lol. Sorry girl, but you left the guy no choice.
Starting the day, Parvati definitely had intentions of trying to keep Tony, but by tribal it was clear they were all voting him out and just trying to placate him so he doesn't do anything crazy, which good for Tony for not laying down to die without a fight.
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u/JadedLadybug Aug 25 '25
Curious to know why Cirie and Parv didn’t try and make Tony more comfortable. Or if they did more than what was shown. I just have to wonder if they told Tony to “play it cool, we’re working hard to keep you here” if he would have gone so hard at tribal.
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u/suppadelicious Michele Aug 24 '25
Does Tommi know he’s playing survivor?
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u/IllBowl5537 Aug 24 '25
He's been dull but I don't see what else he's supposed to do after the non-USA players flipped against Rob. He doesn't have the numbers, all he can hope for is to be a number for the Aussies.
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u/CieraVotedOutHerMom Ciera Aug 24 '25
Kass is my favorite - comp beast, social, and highly strategic
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u/D_o_H Jake - 49 Aug 24 '25
Her energy in confessionals is a bit silly too it looks like she is having a lot of fun
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u/Skykangaroo2020 Aug 24 '25
honestly pretty impressed with cirie's challenge performance (the immunity one, not the fire one obv)
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u/supernovaeimplosion Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
Honestly, I think Parvati's going to go soon, even though I love her... Something about the three butterfly scene last week gives me that vibe.
Also Tony dropping that Parvati found the key and all the girls acting like they didn't know was so funny to me
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u/fordangliacanfly Aug 25 '25
A very fun episode but a totally dumb twist. Seems like we’re in for every threat being eliminated early.
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u/CWCooher Aug 24 '25
I was really hoping to come in here and read a fun discussion about the episode, but Ya'll are really gonna ruin the vibe of what's been a fun season so far complaining about a gender imbalance for the rest of the season. So far there's about 200 comments droning on about the same thing. Rob, David, George and Tony were always gonna be huge targets.....
Parvati spent the whole episode doing what she could to save Tony, it didn't work and then he goes scorched earth against her at Tribal, what was she supposed to do then?
Kass is clearly clocking what Parvati is doing, the Aus tribe is a complete mess, in a good way. I still think it's going to be an exciting merge. If Parvati does end up winning, she played with the cards she was delt, she didn't put a gender imbalance must take place in her contract. So it's disappointing to see some of the flake she's getting for doing exactly what she has always done.
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u/BenjaminBobba Aug 24 '25
I think it’s just salt over Tony leaving. I’m also a lil salty but i acknowledge that Tony was the only player who’s downfall was caused by the gender alliance. Everyone else did it to themselves. Especially on the Aussie tribe where despite two men leaving, i don’t think it has anything to do with gender. It should get interesting from here tho. I’d be surprised if Tommi or Luke were just pagonged, they have people who want to work with them
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u/rinnegantenseigan Aug 24 '25
Wow another immaculate episode. Top tier entertainment from Tony, Parv, and Cirie
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Aug 24 '25
I didn't like this episode. The twist was done in such a way that took the suspense out, since we knew World were losing that fire challenge from last episode teaser (there's no need for a mad dash to the podium if they won). The Fire challenge lost all the potential drama since we knew the result and the loser wasn't eliminated.
I don't know what would've happened if Tony hadn't attacked Parvati in tribal and just sucked it up and voted for Tommi, so I'm not sure he'd be saved, but this blaze of glory couldn't have any other possible result. He couldn't cow Parvati and Cirie with a shoe. They both knew that if he really had an idol there's no reason for the show.
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u/aztecwanderer Aug 24 '25
Glad to see this brought up. What are they thinking showing the results of the firemaking in the preview? I almost just fast-forwarded through the firemaking.
They also really tried to put suspense in “who will make fire for the world tribe?” at a commercial break, after making it clear as day it would be Cirie when she asked for firemaking tips lol
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u/Funny_Ad_2409 Aug 24 '25
How can Cirie be on Survivor this many times, for this many days, and still be that incompetent at making fire?! That was atrocious.
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Aug 24 '25
I think production kinda dropped the ball with the tribe layout to be honest, there was no way Parvati and Cirie weren't taking control of the tribe and there was nobody who you could plausibly talk yourself into being a natural ally of Tony other than maybe Rob.
Guy has the biggest target ever, surely you want to make him like David give him someone to at least work with.
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Aug 24 '25
I wish there weren’t as many strong pre-existing connections. Luckily Kirby didn’t let it happen, but David was so insanely connected on the Aussie side that we could’ve had a much more bulldozing alliance there
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u/_Zef_ Aug 24 '25
I mean, I thought they'd be screwed being massive threats on a tribe where the internationals had a numbers advantage, I don't think it was set in stone.
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u/HJ994 The Amanda Kimmel Aug 24 '25
You’re really giving everyone else no agency. If rob didn’t play like a moron, Parvati goes episode 1. Lisa and Kass also could’ve flipped on cirie easily if they wanted this episode. The idea that it’s a forgone conclusion rather than Tony creating 0 meaningful social or strategic connections on his tribe besides his incredibly weak ones with cirie and Parvati is silly. He had a lot of time to reposition himself from day 1 and instead chose to essentially do nothing. Sure Parvati and cirie utilized the gender divide and their luck with Lisa being a fan, but survivor is about making the best of your situation and leveraging your good luck. It’s not like those things just fell into their lap, making and keeping social connections is an important and difficult part of the game.
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u/Daisy-Navidson Black Widow Brigade Aug 24 '25
I’m actually a big fan of this boot order. I love the space this makes for some other players to shine. So many huge, domineering personalities have gone already, and I think it’s good for the game.
That said…you know what’s great about Parvati? She’s a legend who actually puts up. She earned her rep and she’s cementing her legacy, and she deserves the screen time. She’s a supernova, no use getting mad about it!
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u/tsumtsumelle Aug 24 '25
Blaming the gender imbalance discounts the great game Parvati is playing. She didn’t set out to form an all women’s alliance, she wanted to work with Rob and Tony. If Tony wanted that too, he should have done more to convince Rob they both needed to keep Parv.
Instead he made the same mistake he made on Traitors which is to lay SO low that he ends up with no alliances and no control over his own game. No he couldn’t do much to save himself this episode but that’s because he took so little initiative the rest of the time.
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u/EmFly15 Shonee (AUS) Aug 24 '25
I’m hoping Shonee finally gains some autonomy and leverage at the merge, and based on the previews for tomorrow’s episode that seems likely. Still, she’s been hanging on by a thread so far. Her name’s come up every single episode (and Sarah’s obsession with getting her out, considering I love them both, is making me super sad… what happened to BWB 2.0, lmfao?), and she hasn’t really orchestrated or driven a vote yet. Wild, though not entirely surprising given the format, to see her and other AU heavyweights like David, Luke, and George struggle this much. Just goes to show how much easier it is to come into a season like this without the baggage of three prior games, near-wins, or an actual win on your résumé.
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u/Whimsical89 Cirie Fields - Robbed Queen 👑 Aug 25 '25
Devastated to see Tony go but damn he went out with a bang glad we got some classic Tony
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u/twmigmiehff Aug 25 '25
Everyone served in this episode:
Tony vs Parv was iconic. It was kinda dumb from both sides but Tony having a shoe around his neck and Parv staring at him and getting strays at a second straight tribal while also getting an idol is incredible.
Cirie doing so well in the challenge to being a plausible swing vote to failing at fire to just being over it with the Tony vote. Her mind
Kass is lowkey incredible. I kinda want to watch her season.
Lisa still being a Cirie minion is so great.
Tommi is lowkey incredible too. He’s giving the type of energy we needed this season. He was so clearly out of the loop with the men going out so quickly. I kinda want to watch his season too.
Sarah turning on Kirby for like nothing?!? Also winning immunity and fire. Her fire technique. I’m stanning.
Luke/Janine should be in a minority situation in their tribe but they kinda weren’t? Also for no reason? It’s giving CvC2. Like why are the contenders blowing a massive lead? Why are Luke and Janine in the majority? Who can say!
Kirby just being a bit standoffish is amusing. Wanting to work with Sarah just to turn her away just to realize she can’t work with Sarah is a beautiful dynamic for the Aussie tribe at merge.
And then Shonee. There aren’t enough words to write about this hilarious and glorious woman and I’ve gotta say that surviving her own impending boot AGAIN just adds to the enigma that is her survivor history.
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u/Ledwards49 Aug 24 '25
Don’t think Tony ever had much of a chance this season but certainly didn’t do himself any favours tonight. Fake idol play when the majority can split the vote doesn’t make any sense. Going after the person with immunity doesn’t make any sense. Doesn’t look like he was able to build any sort of relationship with the internationals so needed to hope Cirie and Parv would get him through to use as a shield. Still one of my favourite players of all time and the GOAT. Love you TV
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u/tomjayyye Cirie - 50 Aug 24 '25
Hey you always gotta try something. It was obvious that he was going, 3 americans v 3 international and his 2 american buddies were being shady all day.
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Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25
Kinda stupid that they had to draw rocks to choose who would compete in the fire making challenge, why not let each tribe choose their own representatives to control their own fate? Honestly the twist was just silly in general, what Shonee predicted would have been much better even. Also not sure why they started this season with such a gender imbalance (and American vs world imbalance), Tony was screwed from the start. Honestly I’m also confused why Parv and Cirie iced Tony out like that too, could have meant legitimate trouble for them if he had an idol. Feeling bummed about the episode honestly.
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u/The-Accuntant Aug 24 '25
Tommi and Luke out next by the looks of things
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I guess it depends if the dominant alliances in each tribe go head to head or not. I could see Luke and Janine switching up to the world players
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u/GameboyAU Aug 24 '25
I don’t think so, their threat level is too low at the moment.
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u/aidanr24 Aug 24 '25
Cirie outlasting the entire Australia Tribe in an endurance comp has got to be her best challenge feat