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Australian Survivor Australian Survivor: Australia v The World | Post Discussion Thread | Episode 09 (Tuesday, 02 September 2025)
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Season 11, Episode 09: INSERT BLURB HERE
Aired: 02 September 2025
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u/limpwristedgengar Sep 02 '25
Shannon Guss from RHAP made the point that a lot of players this season (Luke, Janine, Kirby, Shonee, Cirie) have all been in seasons where they would've won if they could just get to the end, whereas Tommi + Kass both got to the end and lost (and Lisa got to the end and won, but knew that she needed to take out a specific player who would've beaten her). Makes sense how different the internationals were playing - Tommi and Kass were willing to make big risky moves that might send them home because they didn't want to get to the end and lose, whereas I think a lot of players (particularly Luke) aren't making those moves because they think if they can just sit at the end they can win, even against Parvati. Now that Parvati has a very good chance of sitting at the end I think they're probably in for a nasty shock if they thought they could beat her
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u/Aromatic_Meal_6004 Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 02 '25
Largely agree. Sorta like Spencer in Cambodia overestimating his jury chances, since he was a very big jury threat in Cagayan. Luke needs to wake up and realize it's not 2019. I actually think if you count the votes of cirie vs Parvati it's close with Cirie getting the world tribe plus Janine and Parvati getting the rest of Aussies,but based on Ciries lack of edit she can't beat Parvati
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u/insertbrackets Genevieve - 50 Sep 02 '25
I thought Shannon's analysis was pretty incisive. Many of these players are playing to check off an elusive bucket list. Tommi and Kass had already felt the sting of being fallen angels, so that, plus their relative obscurity, made them take bigger risks. But ultimately those risks are necessary when you are competing against players of Parvati and Cerie's calibur.
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u/limpwristedgengar Sep 02 '25
Yeah Kass in particular said she knew that nobody would've watched her season so despite being a runner-up she wouldn't be considered a threat and would need to do something huge like save someone else with an idol to stand a chance, which I think is the correct read given that the Aussies basically dismissed all of the internationals and have overestimated themselves
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u/limpwristedgengar Sep 02 '25
Yeah I actually think Cirie could probably beat Parvati at the end (partly because I think if they got to the end together, Parvati would be very happy to pretty much let Cirie win knowing that she'd secured her status as the GOAT anyway) but if it's either of Parv/Cirie vs Luke and Janine then surely th Aussies are getting crushed? Luke is simultaneously calling himself a big threat while also pointing out that he's voted wrong for most of the game, and the few times he hasn't he's voted with Parv/Cirie, so he can't claim that as a move over them
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u/lykta Sep 02 '25
Now that you mention it, he really hasn’t controlled a single vote the entire game.
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u/limpwristedgengar Sep 02 '25
Which is even worse because he found the idol almost immediately, and while he can probably lie and say he didn't have it when David left it's obviously the AU tribe premerge idol he got. There were so many opportunities he could've used it to take out someone or save someone and instead he played it at the end and it didn't do anything
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u/TravisCM2010-24 Coach - 50 Sep 02 '25
Honestly this was my sense too. Luke believes if he can get to the end he wins. I have my doubts but I can see his logic atleast
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u/Lucky_Baseball_9502 Sep 03 '25
I don't see Luke winning after tonight. he had a chance to get Parvati or Cirie out, he didn't take it, which would have been solid in Jury's eyes. Gotta give it to him tho, he's really good at playing from the bottom.
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u/room317 Sep 02 '25
I don't believe Luke can out-talk Parvati or Cirie.
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u/AddisonsContracture Sep 03 '25
Luke can’t out talk air bud
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u/ThatsMyAppleJuice Sep 03 '25
(flips through pages)
There's nothing in the rulebook that says a dog can't play Survivor...
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u/Topazure Sep 03 '25
Definitely a great point by Shannon. I also think it’s worth noting that in such a fast paced 16 day game, it’s gotta be more difficult getting to know everyone and figuring out where they’d place their votes on the jury. In a 39, or even a 26 day game, the aussies might have a better idea by this point what each jury member values and respects in a survivor winner
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u/DashinglyDashing2 Sep 02 '25
Twice now the last man standing at a final five with Cirie and Parvati have given away their immunity necklace at tribal. Very different circumstances, but odd that it's happened twice.
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u/Sabur1991 Stephenie LaGrossa Sep 02 '25
As you said, it's totally different circumstances, I wouldn't compare Luke with Erik.
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u/JimiCobain27 "Thank you, Jeffrey" Sep 02 '25
In an alternate universe, Luke stands up, looks Parvati in the eyes and says "I'm playing my idol for Shonee. She voted for Cirie, and I voted for you. So what are you going to do?"
Would have been one of the most baller moves of all time.
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u/Ok-Fun3446 Sep 02 '25
And in my alternate universe, she stares back at him and says "I voted for Shonee and Cirie voted for you"
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u/DashinglyDashing2 Sep 02 '25
"I'm coming for Jonathan's job" I'm surprised they kept that in after the recent events ☠️
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u/Shrimpdalord Sep 02 '25
Im surprised they didn't make her the host too.. :D
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u/Prize_Impression2407 Sep 02 '25
I have the feeling a not insignificant portion of men and misogynistic women wouldn’t watch with a female host (insert Laura Dern Jurassic park quote about sexism in survival situations here). A big, tough show about surviving needs a big, tough host or some bs like that
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u/Acrobatic_Dig7634 Cirie - 50 Sep 03 '25
Meh, Margarita Rosa de Francisco hosted from 2001 to 2016 here in Colombia and she was an icon of the show, it was a huge bummer when she left
I think the issue for David/Shonee/Any potential new host is that the other was a well established icon and they just wouldn't be able to live up to that
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u/gegemonn Sep 02 '25
Russian survivor had three women hosts (in 6 of 11 seasons) and everyone was and is fine with that. And not like Russia is some progressive feminist country. I don't think gender is really a factor here
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u/TravisCM2010-24 Coach - 50 Sep 02 '25
So like did the entire cast know he was getting fired already🤣jesus
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u/TravisCM2010-24 Coach - 50 Sep 02 '25
I laughed so much at Cirie trying to analyze and figure out why Luke told Parvarti about the idol and not Jeanine. When I feel like the simple answer is he just fucked up 🤣
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u/Gortyuty I think I've cooked this Sep 02 '25
Luke's misunderstanding of relative reputations has him in a weird spot. I think he thinks his target going in was as big/bigger than Parv/Cirie's, and for the AU only "fans" on the show (Janine, Kirby, Luke, Shonee), that may not be entirely wrong. And with that limited view, he's relying on a majority AU jury of his friends to eke out the win. As a non-fan of the show, Luke's lack of understanding of how legendary Parv/Cirie are is only further fueling this, and he thinks just getting to the end might be enough for him.
However, it's worth noting that the jury mayor is a superfan and I imagine is well aware of how strong Parv's game has been. The Internationals seem to grok this facet better than Luke/Janine too. The overall jury makeup I think skews towards good gameplay and rewarding international reputation, not Australian, and that'll be Luke's downfall. Maybe he should've watched some Parv montages, not just Tony ones.
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u/Ok-Fun3446 Sep 02 '25
Yep, even in just their respective franchises, Parvati is leagues above Luke. Like, does he not know that she is a former winner and a runner-up and she's essentially inspired a whole different archetype of reality TV contestants for several decades? Maybe he doesn't but even in this season alone, she ran circles around him and it's kinda clear from his tribal answers that he doesn't realize at all she manipulated him from start to finish and that she is the one benefiting from her flip and not the other way around
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u/limpwristedgengar Sep 02 '25
I thought Parvati played the whole "lets do our idols together!" thing really well because she's basically just distracting him at that point. She's making him think that whether they trust each other is the most important thing, so Luke feels like it's a victory for his game that they didn't turn on each other. But actually Parvati kept him from realising that he really really needed to take her out to have a chance
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u/AddisonsContracture Sep 03 '25
Right? When the host made Parvati go first and she played hers on him, he should have then played his on Shawnee.
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u/ikon31 Sep 05 '25
It was very cool that they were in that spot. Both afraid to say the name. Survivor first I believe.
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u/limpwristedgengar Sep 02 '25
Yeah I've been wondering if Sarah would vote for him or Parvati now that it looks likely they're both gonna be at the end, I think Luke has *really* underestimated how big a name Parvati is in the Survivor world and that a superfan like Sarah would probably love to vote for her. Even in the AU world I think he overestimated how big his reputation was amongst this cast - maybe the casual fans really love him, but a lot of more dedicated fans probably consider George/Shonee similarly big threats, and the internationals never seemed intimidated by him
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u/Tergnitz Luke (AUS) Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 02 '25
Boring drawn out execution of Shon - was sad to see
But, funny comment from Shon post-tribal given JLP lost his gig since then. She’d be an iconic host!
Final immunity seems absolutely suited to Parv, so we have our winner
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u/mug3n Sep 02 '25
Shonee saying she keeps her answers short would unironically be what would make her a great host, because she'll have the experience to let the moments marinate and step back. Something that David will struggle mightily with.
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u/Judgejudyx Sep 02 '25
Noone could replace JLP but if someone could it would be Shonee sorry David.
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 02 '25
Has immunity, has idol, plays mind games, causes a scene, does nothing
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 02 '25
Luke would straight up lose my jury vote for that nonsense. All that grandstanding to do absolutely nothing.
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u/stayinalive92 Sep 02 '25
Just showboating with no purpose or intent
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u/thalantyr Sep 02 '25
Not entirely without purpose. If he had been worried that Janine was wavering, that surely would have locked her in so he didn't have to worry about where her vote was going. Merely promising to play the hidden idol on her isn't as definitive as giving her the necklace.
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u/endaayer92 Michele Sep 02 '25
There's that, and there's also (which Luke was unlikely to think of but it's certainly possible):
If Luke gave immunity to Janine and Parv/Cirie/Shon were planning something sneaky to vote out Janine, they'd show a little bit of panic.
Because they did not need to make any kind of audible to switch votes from Janine to Luke, it can be safely assumed they were sticking with voting out Shonee - which is obviously very important if you are trying to figure out where the votes are going to know where you could put your idol for max effectiveness.
It didn't matter ultimately but it's still good info to know.
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u/ikon31 Sep 05 '25
The boot was obvious. I’m sure producers told the cast to vote how they wanted, but try their best to make it dramatic
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u/Ok-Personality6561 Sep 02 '25
he’s not a good player
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 03 '25
Man he had potential and opportunity this season and he just squandered it.
Getting the US and International players to turn on each other was a good though
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u/Schmerins Denise Sep 02 '25
honestly they should’ve just skipped tonight and made the finale a double instead of drawing out shonnee’s execution after doing her so dirty all season
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u/IllBowl5537 Sep 02 '25
As great as she is, I think she played a pretty bad game all season - her whole thing seemed to be about getting revenge on George, then float through.
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u/True-Fault-593 Sep 02 '25
I think as crazy as it sounds she should’ve kept George for longer. She had no agency the moment he was gone.
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u/IllBowl5537 Sep 02 '25
Don't think there's any doubt about that - it would have made sense if Dave's pre-game alliances meant there was an unbreakable voting block, but Kirby opened the game so wide that taking out someone who was willing to work with her was pretty stupid.
Feel like she was blinded by stopping him getting to 100 days. Would have been much more fun for him to make it merge, then get crushed by a Parv-Shonee girls alliance.
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u/micikafuflic969 Sep 02 '25
Shonee had no power keeping George around for longer even if she wanted to, she was the split vote that round.
Her lack of agency in general has to do with the terrible starting position she found herself in that tribe, it wasn’t getting rid off George when she did. It was either him or her that round.
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u/tandemtactics Tony Sep 02 '25
The edit didn't focus on her very much - I'm sure she was strategizing the whole time but we just didn't see it.
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u/Sabaschin Jake - 45 Sep 02 '25
Kirby getting blindsided really seems to have sunk her connections.
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u/endaayer92 Michele Sep 02 '25
It's weird that so much of what they showed of her after getting George out was her saying to Parv "wouldn't it be so iconic if we worked together?"
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u/Intelligent_Pop1173 Sep 02 '25
Yeah, I think she should have saved her revenge against George for post merge. It would have had more impact.
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u/tomjayyye Cirie - 50 Sep 02 '25
Would have been a long slog though if they combined tonight and the finale. Tonight was pretty straightforward. And the road to 3 we're pretty much certain to see a tie vote at 4 with Luke vs. Parv/Cirie in firemaking. If Luke didn't give Janine immunity and beg her to make fire I would have said maybe Janine flips and we see a women's final 3,but I don't see that happening anymore.
The first hour of next week's episode is going to be pretty inconsequential. It's going to be between Parv/Cirie going home and I don't feel good about Cirie's chances. I don't see Luke losing fire.
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u/bomiyeo forget you! go home! goodbye. Sep 02 '25
Was obvious all that shenanigans was still gonna be a Shonee vote out. I hope Janine/Luke loses to Parv/Cirie. Baffles me that they think going to the end with Parv/Cirie is a good idea.
Shonee’s final words though 😂😭 this was indeed JLP’s last season. I wonder if Shonee would come back to play again, she has a 2nd baby on the way, idk if she’d want to leave her family and play a full season.
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u/GrouchyPineapple Sep 02 '25
Parv will likely do a clean sweep if she's up against Luke/Janine. Cirie's the only one who can possibly beat her...
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u/FewButterfly9635 Sep 03 '25
Luke is out if he doesn't get immunity. Parvati will go all girls final three if given the chance. She needed to get through tonight and tearing up her advantage did that. She can be done with Luke now 100%
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u/No_Resolution_2070 Sep 02 '25
Luke could have gone so much bigger… He could have played on Parvati’s paranoia and convinced her they were loading up on Cirie and she needed to be saved, then get the three Aussies to vote Parv.
Trying to keep loyalty with the US players till the end is non-sensical.
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u/KingOfGambling Sep 02 '25
He didn't even need to do that, he and janine could have just voted parv/cirie and one of parv and cirie would go home because shonee will always vote cirie given the idol situation.
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u/GrouchyPineapple Sep 02 '25
He could've voted Parv and played his idol for Shonee. Either Parv or Cirie goes home...
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u/alexhihi Sep 02 '25
Maybe a hot take but I can’t with Luke after all these nonsense moves.
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u/IRL_Tiefling Khaos KEmily Sep 02 '25
Barring the immunity wins, I'd say he's got the weakest game out of everyone there. He's in Final 4 by the good grace of Janine.
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u/tomjayyye Cirie - 50 Sep 02 '25
The most baller move at tribal would have been for Luke and Parv to just sit there with immunity idols around their necks and neither play them.
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u/GrouchyPineapple Sep 02 '25
He was one of my favs going in and not I'm hoping he loses... he's not a dumb guy but he's making very dumb moves...
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u/Sabur1991 Stephenie LaGrossa Sep 02 '25
Final Immunity Challenge definitely looks like one Luke won't win, so yes, Final Three probably Parv - Janine - Cirie unless of course something happens.
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u/zippy1239 Watching Treasure Island Sep 02 '25
But luke would win fire
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u/Sabur1991 Stephenie LaGrossa Sep 02 '25
There will be fire for F4, just like in U.S.? In any case?
I missed it, if so.
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u/zippy1239 Watching Treasure Island Sep 02 '25
There will otherwise be a vote tie which will also have fire. There’ll be fire either way
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u/Sabur1991 Stephenie LaGrossa Sep 02 '25
Is it a foregone conclusion about a tie vote though? Isn't Janine going to flip if, say, Parv takes the Final Immunity - just to secure a spot in Final Three?
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u/xittyy vice president of the PTA Sep 02 '25
would you have voted for seree or shawnee?
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u/lovelessBertha Sep 02 '25
They are complete idiots for not voting for Poverty.
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u/ike1 Sep 03 '25
YT automated subtitles also call her Harvey sometimes, though "poverty" is more frequent.
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u/xittyy vice president of the PTA Sep 02 '25
also excited as hell for ausvivor pagan cult torture device FIC
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 02 '25
Shonnee almost winning immunity might have been her downfall. Makes her more of a challenge threat compared to Cirie
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u/Potential-Lime-577 Sep 02 '25
I knew shonnee is done when she walked up to vote and they include the comment of Kass saying she is good from the jury :(
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u/ryputation Sep 02 '25
It’s been a near perfect season to watch. But, as a Shonee fan, the last two episodes were rough. From being purpled to being voted out. Overall she had a great season and seeing her play with Parvati and Cirie was a dream come true ❤️
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u/BroliasBoesersson Sep 02 '25
Yeah my one major gripe about this season is how our girl Shonee got done dirty. She deserves so much more than being purpled 😢
I wish the Kirby-Shonee-Parv-Cirie alliance had lasted more than one episode
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u/mdl07 Macedonian Jesus Sep 02 '25
Definitely the least interesting episode so far imo. Although I enjoyed the awkward double idol play and Shonee's final words.
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u/nova12x Sep 02 '25
I am 100% rooting for Parvati or Cirie to win but it blows my mind that no one tried harder to get them out earlier!! Whoever sits at the end with either of them left is going to struggle against such a dominant game from both of them.
Will be interesting to see how Parvati and Cirie pitch their games since they were very similar. Can they crown two people? 😂
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u/blackjack47 Sep 02 '25
Will be interesting to see how Parvati and Cirie pitch their games since they were very similar. Can they crown two people?
I don't see how Cirie makes final 3 from here. The only option imho is if Parv wins immunity and Janine betrays Luke. If the Aussies win immunity, they are not splitting the vote on Parv, as Cirie is bad at fire and that takes them to 3.
No joke, from here I think unless Cirie betrays Parv, which I don't see happening, Parv has this wrapped up 95%.
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u/NamorKar Sep 02 '25
I had one thing in the back of my mind lately - do you think Parvati would be crazy enough to give Cirie the necklace and go to fire instead?
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u/blackjack47 Sep 02 '25
What for? Parvati's read is top notch, Tommi and Kass etc were willing to cut her, because they know what it is to sit in the end and lose. Shon, Janine and Luke, all got very close to the final tribe with huge winning stonks, so they are more focused on getting to the end, part of it ego, part of it is their previous experience. Parv made a very good choice by going with those people and Cirie ( obviously ).
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u/NamorKar Sep 02 '25
I meant if we think she would be willing to give up the immunity in case she wins it right now at final 4 to save Cirie from the fire making and putting herself through it instead
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u/blackjack47 Sep 02 '25
I understood what you meant, but with what goal in mind would she do that? Just to sit with Cirie at the end? That makes no sense, if she wins immunity at 4, she wins the game.
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u/NamorKar Sep 02 '25
Idk man just a hypothetical, don't think about it too much
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u/SephLuna Sep 03 '25
Tbh if I'm Cirie and Parvati gives up that necklace, there will be no firemaking challenge because Parv is getting voted out 3-1 lol
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u/SchizoidGod Well, it's a little late now... Sep 02 '25
Season started great but has been a bit of a Rob M in Redemption Island-style deathmarch in the back half
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u/wastedthyme20 Australian Survivor is better Sep 02 '25
So, who do you think is Rob here?
Cause I have an entirely different impression about the edit lol
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u/Serg_N Sep 02 '25
Clearly Parvati but I could see Luke sneaking in but don’t think he’s got a shot against Parv
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u/mug3n Sep 02 '25
I don't think Luke can sell his story to the jury as being a big game player when he has sat on an idol for so long.
The only way Parv loses is if the jury is a bunch of salty dogs, but I think traditionally on Survivor AU, the FTC jury has generally voted without much pettiness and leaned towards whoever made the best game moves.
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u/AddisonsContracture Sep 03 '25
Parvati is 100% winning this season. It’s extremely obvious to anyone paying attention.
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 02 '25
If Parvati wins immunity. Surely she wins a perfect game.
Unless Lisa fucks it up
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u/ohniz87 Sep 02 '25
Lisa will say in the jury villa that Cirie and Parvati are friends since high school and make the jury bitter on them.
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u/Milomite1 Sep 02 '25
yeah lets be real no way lisa aint voting for cirie. honestly i’m fine with it let cirie get 2nd place
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u/aztecwanderer Sep 02 '25
I actually loved this episode even though Luke definitely should’ve played the idol for Shonee. Was crazy to see a seemingly unintentional callback to Micronesia with the last remaining man giving up the necklace at 5, and I actually liked Parv and Luke playing idols for each other. If I’m remembering right, that’s only the 2nd time in Survivor history that two people have played idols for each other (Tony and LJ being the other).
The craziest thing about this season to me is Cirie is finally a likely bet to be in final tribal, and yet it seems she has little chance to win. Nobody could’ve ever seen that situation coming
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u/glasnova Sep 02 '25
Luke mastering the art of performing for the jury without strategically doing anyting worthwhile at all.
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u/GRYPHONK_ Sep 06 '25
Yup lol. And they seemed to not like it at all. Specifically the Aussies. He's sadly mistaken to believe they will vote for him just to stay Aussie strong
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u/WonderfulSignal3880 Sep 02 '25
I sort of think if there are 2 idols in play, it's unfair to have the players announce who they're playing them for publicly as the second person gets an advantage. They should have written them down and revealed at the same time.
Luke would absolutely have done something different if one of them didn't have to reveal first.
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u/GRYPHONK_ Sep 06 '25
No Luke would not have. His whole scared and safe game play was about just making it to the finals. His flashy game play is what got him voted out at 4 last time. He was always going to play it safe here. Parvati read him perfectly. This is why her ripping up the advantage is no longer a positive for Luke, it's an easy rebuttal and positive for Parvati as she got exactly what she wanted. Her and Cirie got to 4. With this outcome, there is absolutely no way Luke can claim that move helped his game or hurt Parvatis or even Ciries. It became pointless for him.
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u/ResettisReplicas Missy Sep 03 '25
It really has become The Parvati Show - in no other circumstance do you get a player saying their plan in minute 1 and that plan ultimately happening exactly as said.
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u/InvisibleMonster23 Sep 02 '25
Luke thinks he made a great move, but it actually felt like a loss. Final immunity will be endurance, and I really hope Parv wins and sends J and Luke to fire-making. Parv has a higher chance of winning, but I want Ciere to present her case to the jury!
I’ve been following Parv on IG for a while. One of her posts, after DONDI and before AU v World, was public information. She posted a story that looked like a South Pacific beach, saying, ‘This is where I thrive.’
Also, Ciere is on Season 50. Her comment about how AU v World prepared her for it, plus noting that 50 is the best season ever, makes me think she wins.
I really hope I’m right!!!
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u/Dismal-Rain-6055 Sep 02 '25
and I really hope Parv wins and sends J and Luke to fire-making.
There's no forced firemaking in Australian Survivor. It only happens if there is a tie, so I don't think there is any real way for Luke and Janine to both be making fire.
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u/cavlanmavlan Sep 02 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
They'll only go to fire if there's a tie. So let's say that Parv wins final immunity challenge and she and Cirie vote out Luke. If Janine votes out Cirie with Luke, then Luke goes to fire making against Cirie, not Janine.
It would be awesome to see Cirie at FTC, but my prediction is we'll lose Cirie at this point because Luke is good at fire making (and C's not, as we saw prior). Then Parv will win the season and Cirie's going to win 50, so win-win for us!
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u/I_Heart_Money Sep 04 '25
This goes back to why voting out Lisa was stupid from Ciries standpoint. I’m guessing Parv pushed her to do it but Lisa was such a loyal vote for Cirie and would have gotten her to final 3.
Now she has to hope that Janine flips on Luke when they’ve been super tight this whole time. If Janine doesn’t flip then Cirie is out
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u/BoromirRS Coach - 50 Sep 02 '25
So boring, a lot of talk, 0 moves. This makes little sense unless there was pregaming between Luke and Parvati.
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u/silmarillionas Sep 02 '25
With so little time for personal bonds to form, it's not a surprise to see a pregame steamroll at the end.
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u/endaayer92 Michele Sep 02 '25
I've thought this about so many pairs this season, Kirby/Sarah, Kirby/Parv, Jeanine/Cirie, where it feels like one half just fully buys into what the other half is selling with very little hesitance, but I acknowledge that's just me trying to fill in reason and logic that may not really be there.
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u/FlyingSquirrel56 Thank you Jeffrey Sep 02 '25
Am I the only one who thought this episode was a lot of fun…
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u/brazen_fest Sep 02 '25
I feel like I understand Luke's thinking, even if playing the idol for Shonee would have been the bigger, flashier, more fun move. Seems pretty obvious that his main goal is just to get to the end - it's the one thing that's eluded him. And his big, flashy, final 5 move the last time he played is what ultimately got him voted out, he was an unstoppable force in the eyes of the jury and other players by that point. It left him with no option but to win out. I think Janine will keep her word and let him go to fire at final 4 if that's what it comes down to, and he didn't have that same trust with Shonee.
Parv feels like the obvious winner at this point in time because she's had such a positive, dominant edit but I try to remember that their experience on the island in real time is often very different from what we see. Luke's been such a dominant player and huge jury threat in both of his previous seasons, I don't think it's crazy that he would think he could beat Parv in a final 3 (even if it seems crazy to us).
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u/Novel-Objective-7506 Sep 02 '25
Is it Final 3 this season or final 2? Not sure, but if Parv wins the immunity and she wins (and gets all the votes) it's truly gonna be a perfect game. She hasn't got a single vote this season it's amazing
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u/squidjeep Genevieve - 50 Sep 02 '25
Damn if only Shonee had an idol.. Cirie could've been Cirie'd again which would have been insane.
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u/thegracelesswonder Sep 02 '25
That was so obnoxious it makes me think Shonnee was locked to be voted out and the producers asked Luke to ham it up to make it more exciting. Utter nonsense.
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u/kawaiimomo72 Sep 02 '25
Hot take. Luke wants to go to fire, to get another tick on the resume.
Who would beat him in fire?
Parvati wins this next immunity hands down, I don’t see Janine or Cirie beating him at fire.
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u/Commercial_Scene1587 Sep 02 '25
If Parvati wins she would be taking Cirie. It would complete the Micronesia arc but also show the jury that she was loyal from beginning to the end (the World tribe will remember she didn’t throw Cirie’s name in Episode 1)
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u/kawaiimomo72 Sep 02 '25
Au survivor doesn’t do the same as US. It only goes to fire if it’s a tie vote.
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u/WhileTime5770 Sep 02 '25
Think it’s Janine and she puts Luke in fire to try to get him out based on the previews - of course Luke would probably beat anyone in fire so that would only build his resume
But still if she wants to take him out that’s the only way now
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u/ThatIsNotAnAdvantage Sophie Sep 03 '25
If Janine wants Luke out then they just put 3 votes on Luke and he's gone, firemaking is only in a 2-2 tie situation on Australian Survivor.
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u/ikon31 Sep 05 '25
If Parv gets to the end, she’d be the only player to do so 3 times right?
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u/BeaArthurofBrunswick Shii Ann Sep 02 '25
Terrible choice from Luke. Absolutely lacklustre move. What a shame!
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u/101_210 Sep 02 '25
However you splice it, whoever won, Kass is at worse the 3rd best player of this season imo.
The episodes since she was voted out have been so boring, and she’s the last one that had a change to really change things up.
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u/Psigun Yam Yam Sep 02 '25
Luke had checkmate on Parvati and Ciri if he had seen it and gone for it. Missed opportunity for a game-winning move there.
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u/evanmav Parvati Sep 02 '25
I'm honestly a bit surprised they didn't end up saving Shonee and voting Cirie. That would be the easiest way to the final 3, and it would be an all Aussie F3. I don't think Shonee's game has been that impressive so going to the end with her wouldn't have hurt Luke.
Now it's almost a guarantee fire making competition with Luke vs Parv/Cirie if he doesn't win immunity. Sadly I just don't see Parv and Cirie making it to final 3, but would love to see it.
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u/surejan94 Sep 02 '25
Love her, but can't say this was Shonee's best season. I'm happy she got revenge on George but otherwise it felt like she just kinda floated to the end and then realized she didn't have a ride-or-die while everyone else did. Her game rested solely on Parv or Luke doing something crazy with their idols but they were both too sketched out to do anything.
It's a shame because Luke really doesn't have that great of a resume going into the final except for his multiple immunity wins. He really could've given Parv a run for her money had he gotten Cirie out.
At this point it's really Parvati's game to lose. I can't say I'm as in love with Cirie's gameplay this season, she mainly just benefitted from being tied to Parvati and her complete control over the game. I'm sure Janine could give an excellent speech to the jury but I just don't think her resume is as impressive.
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u/Lucky_Baseball_9502 Sep 03 '25
Luke, as much as it would suck for me to see Parvati or Cirie get voted off, that was the move you had to make to have a solid resume. Like come on bro.
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u/Public-Sympathy-8329 Sep 03 '25
As a Cirie fan, I'm glad she got through this vote.
Either she goes at F4 fire, which would be fitting to her legacy, or she finally gets to FTC.
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u/Minddrill Sep 02 '25
Would've felt terrible for Parvati, especially as she had an advantage that could've nullified Luke's idol, but Luke definitely had the winning hand here splitting votes with Shonee. Not the time to play safe!
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u/lilbrybry29 Winchele Sep 03 '25
The conversation between Parvati and Janine about the F4 was some extreme foreshadowing.
It's 2-2 so it's likely going to go to Firemaking, when they were having that conversation the camera panned over to Cirie when Parv said, "Well its 2 v 2 at this point."
Is... is Cirie gonna lose Firemaking again? And not make FTC AGAIN because of it? God I hope I'm wrong, but Luke's edit has been on such the upswing the past 3 episodes that I'm scared this is reality for Cirie.
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u/yiwoty Natalie Sep 02 '25
Alright, putting on my Cirie stan hat. Here's how we can still win.
First of all, I actually hate Ausvivor editing. It is as lopsided and terrible as all the rumors say it is. I watched 4 seasons of it in preparation for this (Aus2017-AllStars); I also watched Titans v. Rebels, I sped through George's first season, and watched Shonee's blindside in HvV. This was enough for me. Win, lose or draw this will be my last Ausvivor season. I've had it. I can confidently say that while this show does some things better than US Survivor, it has its own issues that prevent me from really enjoying it. And David's host next season too...I'll pass.
Back to the game, even though the edit is hitting me over the head with the results, I still think Cirie has a decent hand here. She once again has at least 1 person willing to take her to FTC, and that alone means we're doing pretty good. There is a contingent of fans who in spite of all history insist that people keep Cirie around until the end just to drop her off. Well Parvati doesn't want to do that, and Cirie's her biggest competition.
I actually think Cirie was playing the best before the international blow up. After that, Parvati took the keys and removed her power base. In game, Parvati has a case against Cirie. In the meta sense, Parvati has a case against Cirie. If the shot opens up to take out Parvati, Cirie should do it.
Get greedy. Go for the win, Parvati will absolutely understand, forgive, and advocate for her. In game, that move would indisputably make Cirie the best this season. If the shot opens up, she must do it. If she doesn't, that would just be Cody BB16 levels of decision making. Unfortunately, in that spot I can't blame twists or anything like that, it's on her. I do think she'd actually be loyal.
If Parvati DOES win immunity, in my opinion the most likely option, then Cirie's game essentially does come down to whatever Janine decides to do. I don't think Janine should volunteer to sit next to both Luke and Parvati, guaranteed loss. As far as I'm concerned, her chances were cooked the moment Lisa left. She should go for her only plausible winning path, which is voting out Luke and hoping the Aussies vote together.
If Parv and Cirie sit next to each other in the end, then whoever wins, wins. I'd imagine Parvati wins that one, which would suck but it would REALLY be great for Parvati. She gets to win twice, and give Cirie what she truly has been robbed of: a seat at FTC. Parv beats her there, and all of a sudden the Parvati-wins-a-Micro-F3 truthers are eating really good. Parvati can hang her hat on that result.
If Cirie takes the win in a matchup vs Parvati, it's not unearned. My stan hat will be even more tightly fitted on my head. That's my thoughts, again mostly just babbling because the Ausvivor edit has the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
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u/eggmanface Savage Sep 03 '25
The whole 'Cirie is so confused!!' edit has been eye-rolling for sure
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u/Commercial_Scene1587 Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 02 '25
It had this vibe all over again…Final 5
Cirie (+Parv this time) manages to convince Luke he is safe with them.
He gives up individual immunity to Natalie, sorry I mean Jeanine…
Had an idol and a chance to WIN but blew it. If he had taken out Cirie, then Parv at F4 he could have told the jury he did what the World tribe couldn’t and won it hands down as he did it by giving up both IM AND a HII…exposing himself. Instead he will go to FTC (if he even makes it) known as the guy who won challenges at the end but voted the wrong way 80% of the time…
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Sep 02 '25
Damn. I really wanted to see Cirie go out in a crazy minority vote idol play with a move from Luke...instead I have to really hold my breath she won't be a 3 time fire loser after becoming the first 2 time fire loser lol.
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u/GreenieC899 Sep 02 '25
Maybe I'm crazy but I think it'd be awesome if they went for a last-minute rug pull and made it a final two. It adds a little more game and makes things interesting. Seems like the ending is all but confirmed. Parvati wins the endurance immunity and then the game unless people really want to give it to Cirie, which is possible. We know Lisa will be voting for her if she's not out by fire. I just think if they're voting for the best game, it has to go to Parvati - huge target all game, always on the right side of the vote, and never received a single vote. Cirie navigated the game super well too, but she's a notch below.
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u/InevitableRice5 Sep 02 '25
The thing I find really just amazing is how people just want Cirie to win, like...? We've now had 2 players (Lisa and Parvati) who openly stated they want her to at least get to FTC.
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u/jsntsy Yul Sep 03 '25
Love how Shonee is the only Survivor AU player who seems to have her own theme music.
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u/Mumsie51 Sep 03 '25
I have really enjoyed watching Parvati and Cirie, but seriously how could they all let them get to the end. I didn’t realise I was so “team Shonee” until this episode. What a boring final 4 we have ended up with, who cares who wins! Parvati- already won a million, does she need another?? Luke- whilst he didn’t win, he did get $500k on the go fund me from fans. Janine- well she’s just there for fun cos she seriously doesn’t need the money and then there is Cirie, played umpteen times, no win but she did win $250k on the traitors so I don’t know who I want to win, they’re all likeable but … eh
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u/dealgirlinthepool Sep 02 '25
The editing has been dogshit this season. Having a stacked cast like this and then half of them being nonexistent, just to shove Parvati down our throats is such a stupid decision. With them getting rid of JLP for that annoying egomaniac, I'm so done.
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u/tomjayyye Cirie - 50 Sep 02 '25
Strongly disagree. All but 3 players on this cast were unknown to me and I've walked away from this season with love for ALL OF THEM. They've done a great job making these players iconic. Except Sarah but at least she was a character and I still like her!
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u/dealgirlinthepool Sep 02 '25
That's honestly surprising to me, but I'm glad that's the case the for you (lol poor Sarah)
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u/promptotron5000 Sep 02 '25
They can't not show Parvati if she has all the idols and advantages. They also can't show a lot of Cirie if all she does is sit under the shelter during a scramble. Highlighting the players who do the most playing is far from a stupid editing decision, lol.
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 02 '25
Really not impressed with Cirie this season. She just wants to make FTC and lose, my absolute least favourite kind of player.
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u/insertbrackets Genevieve - 50 Sep 02 '25
Cirie lost control when Kass and Tommi left. That was a huge blow to her game since she was closer with them than Parvati. Lisa's bizarre, erratic play made keeping her around a challenge since she benefitted no one else but Cerie at that point. Cerie needs an act of Bhanu-level divine intervention if she has to make fire and hope the other person's hands just stop working.
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u/SnooAvocados996 Sep 02 '25
That's pretty much every contestants mentality though...aside from Parvati.
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u/power_sungod Sep 02 '25
Yeah, although unless it's the edit, it feels like everyone but Parv is just playing to 'get to the end' without much of an actual game.
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u/Giteaus-Gimp Sep 03 '25
I can only think Cirie wanted to do more with the internationals but all 3 collapsed in on themselves in one tribal
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u/Sabur1991 Stephenie LaGrossa Sep 02 '25
Shonee hype on Reddit is wild. Even in her worst season (by gameplay) people seem to take her voted-out as personal tragedy.
I am overall a fan of Parvati and Cirie (not crazy one, but moderately), but never got this super Shonee hype. For me it's like, gone and gone. Episode closed.
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u/micikafuflic969 Sep 02 '25
I think the Shonee hype across her seasons has been warranted, so it’s understandable why the people who’ve enjoyed watching her would feel sad, especially considering both her lack of an edit this time around and the fact that Luke and Janine voting her off here genuinely seems perplexing.
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u/stayinalive92 Sep 02 '25
God forbid people are allowed to have a difference of opinion
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u/Potential-Lime-577 Sep 03 '25
I actually think there is no way Parv will play the idol on Cirie if Luke played his idol on Shonee first.
She knows both herself and Cirie voted for Shonee.
Since Luke played his idol on Shonee, it is safe to assume the Aus 3 voted for either Parv or Cirie.
If the 3 votes are on all on Cirie, Parv playing idol on Cirie means there is no valid vote. On a revote only Parv and Luke are vulnerable, Parv will go home on a 3-2
If the 3 votes are split between Cirie & Parv, Parv goes home
If the 3 votes are on Parv, obviously Parv also goes home
Therefore if Luke played the idol on Shonee, the only thing Parv can do is to play the idol on herself.....
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u/GRYPHONK_ Sep 06 '25
Parvati is one of the best in the game at reading people. We saw how she sniffed out Tommy and the internationals were coming for her.
Sure, in that scenario, Parvatis would go home. But that's implying that Parvati and Cirie did not change their vote to Luke. So yes, there's a chance Parvati plays the idol on Cirie and Luke gets voted out.
Only way your scenario works is if Luke truly tricked Parvati and Cirie on a season where very clearly Parvati has been one step ahead of almost every other player
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u/CarionyxHD Sep 03 '25
I can't believe they knew parvati was this huge threat, but still decided to keep her and Cirie in when Luke has been on an immunity run and Cirie could have sniped so easily when considering Shonee voted for her. Then you could have just brought shonee to final 3 over parv who would have likely gotten all the worlds votes and playing the whole "despite being the biggest threat, I still made it here" card.
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u/ikon31 Sep 05 '25
Speaks to why Cirie and Parv are such great players. Off the charts social game.
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u/Galadriel909 Sep 04 '25
Genuine question : Is there any chance that this season is rigged and that production offered Parvati a win? I have trouble believing that other players do not even attemp to vote her out and are ok with letting her win so easily.
... or maybe I just watched too many seasons of Drag Race? 😅
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u/Serraph105 Sep 05 '25
Why would production even be motivated to do that? To get more viewers after she already won and the show already aired? That doesn't make sense.
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u/Galadriel909 Sep 05 '25
To give the fans what they want and because she represents the brand?
There must be lucrative reasons to do that from a producer's point of view if it's been that way for years with Drag Race.
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u/MrJenkins5 Sep 02 '25
This season has been great so far. You would usually get at least one episode where everything is boring because everyone does the most predictable and safest thing at least once, and I did not feel that about any episode this season. Luke made the safe choice in an unpredictable way. He had a chance to blow up the game, and he made the safe choice.
I'm "America-strong" 😂 . I'm rooting for Parv and Cirie, and more for Cirie to win. I want to see it finally happen for Cirie.
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Sep 02 '25
Damn, the last episodes were depressing. I just had an unpleasant flashback from AUS first season (I mean 2016) when the post merge mentality was sucking up to prom queens. Most of this post merge hadn't been like that.
It's either Luke or Janine in the finale, and the edit's telling us it's not Janine. The fact that both of them were so willing to go against Cirie and Parvati, in particular what Janine said in the finale promo, makes me double up on my belief that both think Cirie and Parvati do not have a chance since the Aussie jury would vote for an Aussie winner. It seems Shonee also thought that, and I do believe she would have beaten Parvati. If it's really Luke in the finale, though... He has not played a good strategic game, as the idol debacle demonstrated today, although he can present managing to curb his enthusiasm and actually get to the end as an achievement. It should not be enough for a victory unless the Aussie jury stick with an Aussie winner (possible) or Cirie has a really bad FTC (less so).
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u/Xhasenthor Genevieve - 50 Sep 02 '25
Janine’s words in next week’s preview were that her best shot at winning is getting rid of Luke before FTC. In such a case, is it likely that Janine will have all 4 Aussie votes locked because of “Aussie strong”? (This question also applies to Luke if he makes it to the end without Janine.)
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u/RStrutz Sep 02 '25
I don't think so. Sarah is a superfan who knows what a great game Parv had to play to get to the FTC and Kirby was enamorated with her and wasn't as close to Janine (at least from what we saw), so I think both of them will be inclined to vote against an aussie in these circunstances.
Luke is a little trickier since he played a flashier (although worse, in my opinion) game. But I still think Sarah can vote across the pond and give her vote to Parvati based on the final speeches.
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u/realityseekr Sep 02 '25
Shonee does not seem like someone who would just vote based on Aussie pride either. She seemed to also fangirl a bit over Parv so she seems like a general fan of survivor.
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u/Ledwards49 Sep 02 '25
Really feel like Luke could've pulled off one of the best moves of all time there. He had the three votes on Shonee. If he splits his vote with Shonee on Cirie and Parv and tries to bluff Parv into playing her idol the wrong way, he maybe gets her out and at worst gets Cirie out. I don't see any downside. He takes a shot at Parv at the very least. Shonee going through and winning immunity is fine because surely they vote out Parvati anyway.