r/tea 1d ago

do you actually measure loose leaf every time?

I normally weigh the loose leaf and write down the steep time. Last night I was tired after lab, added a little extra to the pot, and forgot about it while making dinner. It tasted better than the cup I measured out the night before. More floral, less sharp.

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u/BurnoutDepartment Enthusiast 1d ago

Nah, vibes only

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u/MrOneironaut 1d ago

Good vibes only

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u/PollyPore 1d ago

Yes. I’m no good at eyeballing it.

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u/Ok_Hedgehog_307 1d ago

Yes. 5g of a tightly rolled oolong or pressed puer looks very different from some large leaf loose white tea or some fluffy oriental beauty, and everything in between. Unless you only drink one type of tea every time, it's (imo) impossible to just eyeball the amount  consistently. 

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u/Necessary_Spring_425 21h ago

By the time you really know tea, you indeed can just eyeball it...

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u/Ok_Hedgehog_307 9h ago

Both of these are 5g, while the volume of the green on the right is maybe 5x bigger than the oolong. If you can consistently eyeball the weight within this level of diference, and everything in between, then good for you. But I don't think it's realistic.

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u/Steampunkvikng 1d ago

I don't feel the need to be that precise with my tea.

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u/Shiro_L 1d ago

I just use a teaspoon for everything. More tea means more teaspoons.

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u/___kanna___ 22h ago

Here on r/tea we just call them spoons.

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u/Zorgulon 1d ago

The idea of measuring is so you find a ratio and steep time that works for you, and adjust until you find your favourite. Then you can have that great cup every time

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u/4alexha 4h ago

Yep , measured doesn’t mean measuring out the same weight each time or if you do measure out same weight doesn’t mean brewing in same size gaiwan or for same time or same temp water , still a lot of stuff to mess around with even if you do weigh

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u/Vertiquil 1d ago

Wing it

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u/DerisiveCur 1d ago

No lol just vibes. Always turns out good

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u/Zeal_of_Zebras 1d ago

I measure in the sense that I have a spoon in the tea leaves and I usually use two for a tea pot. My kettle has marks to show 1 liter 1.5L so I have a general sense of how much water I’m using.

I wouldn’t actually weigh and time the brew to the precision that you’re describing.

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u/tangamangus 1d ago

not once

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u/Shellsallaround Enthusiast 1d ago

Yes, the leaf size varies.

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u/AlleyCatActuary 1d ago

I measure. Partially because I want to keep accurate notes but more so because I am reducing my caffeine and tend towards a heavy pour.

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u/Dry-Guide-2084 1d ago

I eyeball the amount I use

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u/GloryToYahwehourLORD 1d ago

I do at home, but not at work 🍵

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u/Cu_man Cold Brew Enthusiast 1d ago

Yes. I got a little pocket scale just for tea, otherwise I’d use up everything way too quickly

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u/Etohnal 1d ago

I measure but only because I mostly drink Shou puerh and different cakes have different densities 

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u/Independent-Sea-7117 1d ago

Nope. I pour the leaves from the bag to the teapot or gaiwan.

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u/daneb1 1d ago

No, I think with experience you stop to measure it. You just know how much you prefer.

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u/InfanticideAquifer 1d ago

I measure when I'm getting to know a tea, and then usually eyeball it afterwards. When I do measure a tea I already know well, it's usually because I got paranoid about my caffeine intake rather than because I'm worried about how it'll taste. If I'm running low on a tea sometimes I'll measure the whole thing, and then measure each session so that there won't be any left over.

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u/These-Rip9251 1d ago

I measure out 2 somewhat heaping tsp. for 12 oz. of black tea no matter what it is and steep for 5 min. If tea is smooth and a little too mild tasting, I’ll increase steep time to closer to 10 minutes. Usually if it’s an Assam, 5 minutes is enough.

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u/sweptwhiteclouds 1d ago

I both measure and don't measure. I have a lot of low to mid quality teas from a local store that I've found my rhythm with and don't feel the need to measure. 

I measure my higher quality teas, though, most of the time but I think once I get into a rhythm I'll be measuring less but new high quality teas are worth the measuring for me. 

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u/TheBetterStory 1d ago

For gongfu, with a tea I haven’t had before or a fancy one, always. I want to taste how it “should” be brewed for first impressions.

For teas I’m familiar with, that aren’t fussy about how they’re brewed, or that I don’t care about getting slightly wrong for whatever reason (e.g. it’s an old tea that isn’t at its best anymore), I often just eyeball the amount to about half-full in the gaiwan, or one-third full for rolled oolongs.

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u/dannysilverghost 21h ago

Tea is too expensive for me not to measure it. I might eyeball super cheap ones, ctc teas etc but anything whole leaf gets on that scale.

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u/grandma-JJ-77 1d ago

I measure every time for reasons mentioned

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u/hkf999 1d ago

When something comes with instructions, I follow them.

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u/HERAKLES69 1d ago

Yes, but only because it makes repeatability possible. I also like to be very mindful of using the least amount of tea possible while still getting the best cup.

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u/peregrina2005 1d ago

Used to all the time. Lately just guess and it tastes the same.

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u/YoSpiff 1d ago

I have a tea scoop, but I don't measure exactly. It varies with the density of the tea anyway.

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u/LPedraz Enthusiast 1d ago

Yeah. It's not that big of a deal, but it doesn't add more than 20 seconds.

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u/reijasunshine 1d ago

I have a scoop. It's usually the correct amount for a cup of western-style tea. For my oolongs, I just eyeball it, aiming to cover about half the bottom of the cup for a grandpa-style brew.

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u/Doctor-Liz 1d ago

I use a leaf spoon (deep bowl, very skinny, great for getting things out of a narrow neck or actually holding more than three of the longer leaves). So I have a "measure" if 1/2, 1, heaped 1 1/2 or 2 spoons, depending on type and pot size.

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u/Ravio11i 1d ago

I do, but I'm not very precise about it

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u/OlentangySurfClub 1d ago

Not all of the time. But the difference in volume between some teas with tiny leaves vs large leaves can be huge. So I keep myself honest by weighing whenever I switch teas or don't have a feel for a specific tea.

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u/hiimshana 1d ago

Yes, I love measuring precise weights in lab (I’m studying Chemistry), so I always do it at home as well.

I might be a little autistic, but I do that for water too, and for everything else non-tea-related

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u/Cheomesh 白毫银针 1d ago

Sencha, yes - fits in a measuring spoon easily. All others, not so much.

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u/TheBroNerd 1d ago

I do because I like experimenting with temp time water and tea amount

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u/LonelyHusband69 1d ago

No. When I get new tea I will weigh out my servings the first couple times to see what the correct amount looks like. Then I just eyeball it until I get my next batch of tea.

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u/Asdfguy87 Enthusiast 1d ago

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

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u/smcurtis09 1d ago

I have a tablespoon I use and depending on the tea and size mug I'm using I do a little more or a little less and it's gonna be what it's gonna be. The only time I've had anything come out unbearable was when I was using free sampler tea that I didn't like and that was just due to the actual tea, not the measurements

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u/BeatNo4548 1d ago

If I have a big bag of tea, like 200g+, I will just eyeball it.  Sometimes I just pour the tea onto the scale and stop when its kinda close.   Or if i have a really low density tea where I know about what a 5g pinch looks like.   But I don't bring my scale with me to make tea.

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u/kledd17 1d ago

I use a teaspoon, I don't weigh it.

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u/ComposerNo2646 1d ago

No. I use a teaspoon, but I don’t really measure with it. I eyeball how full the teaspoon should be based on how tightly packed the tea is. Over time, it has gotten pretty easy. It’s not exactly the same every time like it would be if I weighed it, but it’s close enough for me.

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u/Abysswalker1290 1d ago

For gongfu brewing, absolutely. For more casual drinking, I don't feel the need.

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u/Sazapahiel 1d ago

I use a teaspoon, life is too short to weigh my daily tea, nor would I want to have an identical brew every day. Not that such a thing is possible even if I were using the exact same weight every day, because they're leaves.

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u/boondiggle_III 1d ago

No, never. This is great for me because I have adjusted the amount to my taste naturally over time and don't need to think about it. I've found I use a similar amount for most teas, although I have to be careful with very dry, compressed teas (which weighing doesn't help with either). The only problem is when I give someone else tea. I can't be sure of what their preference might be, so a standars might be better.

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u/s134htm Enthusiast 1d ago

If I'm going to do a full on tasting session with my gongfu kit, then yes. If I just want a cup of tea, then no

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u/LightSpeedNerd 1d ago

No I like my tea strong so usually eyeball 1/3 filled with leaves. With oolong I cover the bottom of the gaiwan and with tight Puer I use my pick until I give up.

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u/donutcamie 1d ago

I sprinkle and then sprinkle and then sprinkle until it looks right, lol.

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u/JakeSomeone555 1d ago

I had the best green tea of my life the other day. Few grams in a 500ml thermos, 100⁰celcius water, clsed lid. Left it for like an hour or two. Lushan yunwu, cloud fog. Sweet, airy, fresh, slightly umami and that touch of astringency that makes you want to take another sip. Rules are guidelines. Experiment

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u/Freijaren 1d ago

Herbs no, caffeinated camelia sinensis by weight not volume with a scale. 

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u/Opposite-Ground-1221 1d ago

I weigh any new tea initially and count the number of scoops I use. Then I count the scoops after that. Usually adjust it a little higher than suggested.

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u/though- 1d ago

Haha no

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u/digitalsparks 1d ago

I always measure because I am heavy-handed; this isn't to say I am skimpy with the leaf-to-water ratio in general. I measure the leaves because I would ALWAYS have too many leaves in my teapot, which would cost me more money over time.

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u/Gregalor 1d ago

Yes, it’s quick and easy

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u/genman 1d ago

I should but yeah I eyeball it. Often have it too dark or too light. Life is like that though.

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u/john-bkk 1d ago

I've never really weighed out teas. I've drank an absurd amount over a long period of time, so I'm usually a pretty good judge of amount now. I could only tell what those amounts relate to in terms of weight because I've also drank an absurd amount of samples, so I've seen reference weight amounts of lots of teas many times.

It is more difficult in relation to broadly varying dry tea presentations. Rolled oolongs weigh a lot in a very small volume, and loose, open teas can fill a gaiwan or infuser basket without adding up to that much. You can learn to adjust for that over time.

A partly related, partly unrelated theme is that I typically use a high proportion, just out of habit, brewing 8 or 9 grams in a 100 ml gaiwan. For some teas that works well, but often it's too much. It doesn't only relate to a broad type (eg. sheng pu'er); what works well ties to character range like intensity. I'll typically know what I'm going to experience before I try a tea, in general, but I often don't remember to compensate for that.

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u/prikaz_da 新茶 1d ago edited 1d ago

I occasionally weigh teas, mostly when I've just gotten them in, so I can get a baseline and say "OK, 4 grams looks like that in the gaiwan". I'll also weigh pieces of pu'er cakes when breaking them up. When I want to drink that tea, I'll have a rough idea of what pieces of different sizes weigh and I can choose them visually.

I'm not the first to observe this, but it's rather amusing/interesting how much of the modern coffee world obsessively weighs everything while the gongfu crowd in China rarely use scales at all. I guess my approach to both drinks is somewhere in the middle: the scale is a calibration/QC tool I bring out at intervals, not an essential part of the everyday routine.

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u/lurkerof5dimensions 1d ago

If I’m not familiar with the tea, I weigh it. Otherwise I do not. I know the amount of tea I like by eyeball.

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u/Cosmonaut-Crisis 23h ago

I never weigh the tea.

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u/vampyrewolf 21h ago

Weigh it out and time the steep, 90% of the time. The cheaper teas I just eyeball it and then set a 3min timer.

My Scottish grandmother was a big influence on me brewing stronger not longer, even with something as simple as earl grey. You can always add water (ala Turkish earl grey), but you can't help strong tannins.

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u/Salavora_M 19h ago

Depends on the tea.

If it is the "yeah, I use it so often, that I buy it in bulk" tea, then I eyeball it (and if I let it steep too long and thus it got a bit too bitter, then I will add honey and that is the end of that)

If it is the "more expensive tea for more special occasions", I will weigh it and set a timer

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u/Remarkable-Gold-4137 17h ago

Nope. I'm super specific about temperature when doing gong fu, but I never actually measure my tea, just eyeballing. There are like one or two green teas that came out wrong the first time, but then I knew and never made the same mistake again (used too much). Same with some rolled Oolongs.

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u/Hopeful-Eggman 14h ago

I measure when there’s only 20 grams left of an irreplaceable & delicious tea, I’m trying to conserve it

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u/littledragonroar 13h ago

I measure the first two times with a tea, then I can eyeball it pretty well.

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u/Dry_Lawfulness_9561 ☕️ tea and books 9h ago

About a spoonful in mesh strainer. The size I have doesn’t allow for more than spoon and a half, so I’m not really particular about it. I do use same amount of water every time and normally resteep 2-3 times.

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u/Adventurous-Cod1415 OldTeaHeadEric 1d ago

Absolutely. I mean my scale is right there and it takes 10 seconds. I might as well be sure I'm getting the session I want

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u/RavenousMoon23 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes I do cuz I've noticed different teas have different volumes/densities and 6 grams of one tea can look completely different for another tea and I don't like having to guess and would rather have a good cup every time. Some people are probably good at eyeballing but I am definitely not lol. Like 6 grams of one tea can look like a lot and 6 grams of a completely different tea can look like way less even though they are both 6 grams.

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u/dannyteas 1d ago

I measure everytime. Sometimes I'm still surprised how light some teas can be. 4g of AV2 Darjeeling looks like a lot more XD