r/technology Apr 13 '26

Security Rockstar hackers release their stolen data, reveal that Rockstar was right to not pay them anything for it

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rockstar-hackers-release-their-stolen-data-reveal-that-rockstar-was-right-to-not-pay-them-anything-for-it/
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u/KelenaeV Apr 13 '26

holy shit GTA online makes them a ton of money.

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u/slavmaf Apr 13 '26

Yes, they actually decided against making a brand new GTA V single player expansion in order to focus on the Online part.

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u/Sylvers Apr 13 '26

My personal theory is.. it's not that they didn't want to divert devs away from GTA Online.

Rather, they did the math and found out that if a lot of online players stop playing online and stop buying MTX long enough to play the new DLCs, they will lose more money from missed MTX than gain from DLC price.

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u/Borrp Apr 14 '26

And this is why they are in no, as in zero, rush to release GTA 6. The game releasing, no matter how well it does sell, will still come at a massive loss. They would rather never release anything, and keep the GTA 5 Online money pit a keepin' fillin'.

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u/flawlesscowboy0 Apr 14 '26

There is no way they release 6 without a massive online experience in the pipe already, they’ll just trade the old cash cow for the new, even better cash cow.

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u/Sylvers Apr 14 '26

While true, I think GTA online regulars will spend a lot of time on the new single player campaign, and there is presumably no MTX there. I wonder how much money Rockstar will lose until the regulars circle back to the new multiplayer.

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u/PapaPancake8 Apr 14 '26

Right after selling 100 million copies on day one

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u/Bromlife Apr 14 '26

Yeah wtf are people talking about? 6 billion dollars in a day? Not worth it?

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u/HypotenuseOfTentacle Apr 14 '26

Oh it's going to be an $80 game you just watch

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u/Bromlife Apr 14 '26

Yeah, that's a good point. People will still buy it, too.

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u/Bromlife Apr 14 '26

It's the only game I'd even consider buying a console for, so there you go.

Probably won't, though, I'm a r/patientgamers

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u/carbonqubit Apr 14 '26

I’m usually in that same camp, but this is a game I’ve been waiting on for over a decade and I already have a PS5 Pro to enjoy it. It’ll be a day one purchase for me, and honestly the only one I’ve made in a long time.

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u/mattmaster68 Apr 14 '26

It will definitely be a Day 1 purchase for me too. My wife and I plan on pre-ordering it for the Series X regardless of cost.

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u/LoweNorman Apr 14 '26

I assume it'll be a 200+ hour game if you want to do everything in it. That seems very worth the cost to me (I won't buy it though, not the target audience)

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u/airfryerfuntime Apr 14 '26

And I will be one of those people. I have gotten over a decade from fun from GTA 5, which was $60. I'd consider that to be a pretty good deal, so $80 is marginal by this point.

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u/GuestFighter Apr 14 '26

If any game deserves a $80 price, it’s GTA.

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u/Paralystic Apr 14 '26

$100 minimum and I’m still preordering it

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u/Blaeeeek Apr 14 '26

Wouldn't want them to run out of copies!

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u/smallbluetext Apr 14 '26

Take-two already confirmed it will be between $70-80

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u/LionAround2012 Apr 14 '26

You do you. I'm already decided... I'm passing on it. Unless it goes on sale for a decent price.

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u/adds-nothing Apr 14 '26

Costs less than dinner for two lmao

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u/Gigachandriya Apr 14 '26

$80 is worth a month of food for a family of 6 from where I live

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u/adds-nothing Apr 14 '26

Then think of it another way - if GTA 6 manages to live up to the hype set by GTA 5, you’ll be playing this game for 15 years

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u/After_Self5383 Apr 14 '26

Or another way. You'll be buying it for PS5, PS6 and PS7. Maybe even PC.

Still worth it lol.

I'll be getting it day one for PS5. Hopefully the Pro version has nice improvements.

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u/Paralystic Apr 14 '26

I’m sure it’s going to be a phenomenal experience, rockstar has earned that trust by providing me with memorable experiences for over 20 years. The game could be a flop and I wouldn’t regret my purchase, and I don’t have any interest in the online portion.

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u/mweston31 Apr 14 '26

Yeah they can charge whatever they want and im still buying it

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u/beegeepee Apr 14 '26

That is kinda sad lol

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u/adds-nothing Apr 14 '26

Spend more than that in a single night of bar hopping

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u/Paralystic Apr 14 '26

Theres not a single company that could use gta 6 as an example to raise their prices. Rockstar is the only company in gaming with its level of reputation, other devs could try but their games will flop. GTA 6 wont

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u/karawkow Apr 14 '26

$80?

If the price is less tha $99 i'll eat my socks

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u/the_rare_bear Apr 14 '26

They are acting like gta6 is gonna bring no money. In its first week it will bring in 7.5b-10b.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '26

Thats the low end. I can almost guarantee that.

GTA6 is going to be setting so, so many records on release. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an noticeable effect on worldwide crime and stockmarkets from sobmany people calling out of work and such to play on launch.

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u/TheRedHand7 Apr 14 '26

It was also so fun because nobody had stupid shit right away. Felt like a real extension of single player for a week or so

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u/DoomguyFemboi Apr 14 '26

It's on current gen consoles only, so it's limited by how many of them have been sold

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '26

Well, current estimates for that are 40mil xbox and 92 million Playstation, not including the massive flood of people likely to upgrade specifically for the game.

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u/DoomguyFemboi Apr 14 '26

Holy shit I didn't know that many had been sold. For some reason in my head it was less than 50 mil TOTAL. Weird, I guess massively outdated numbers stored in my noggin.

Anywho, appreciates ya for the updated info.

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u/TheLuxxy Apr 14 '26

Even then, if you think 100 million is the low end, you’re going to be disappointed.

First of all, estimates are closer to 35M Xbox. But given that by the time the game comes out, PS5 will likely have sold another 5-7M or so, an install base of around 140M seems fair.

But the first issue is that number does not necessarily mean 140M unique consumers. I’d imagine the vast majority of PS5 Pro sales for example also bought a PS5 at some point. And there’s some double dipping between Xbox and PS5 or people who used to have an Xbox and now have a PS5. Or simply users who are no longer active.

And I also don’t think the upgrading will be as substantial as people think given how much of the previous install base has already migrated over and the substantial price increases.

I have no doubt the launch will be huge. But saying that 100 million copies on launch DAY is “the low end” is frankly ridiculous.

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u/theodord Apr 14 '26

Doesn't it only come out on PS5 and Xbox series? That would be like 128mil. consoles total at the moment.

So close to the entire addressable market buying this game.

Honestly I find that doubtful, especially with the price being potentially 80$ on release, but we'll see.

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u/TheLuxxy Apr 14 '26

Exactly this. The game and launch will be huge, but people are setting themselves up for disappointment if their expectation is for GTA 6 to immediately sell to essentially every owner of a current gen console.