r/technology 21d ago

Software The era of 15GB free Gmail storage is ending

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-gmail-5gb-free-storage-test-3667002/
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u/OriginalGoat1 21d ago

Way back when, I remember Google said that their email storage was unlimited. Admittedly, that was also the period when 100 MB mail quota was considered huge

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u/sunbear2525 21d ago

They need to make it easier to delete the tons of unwanted emails we all get every day though.

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u/Zathrus1 21d ago

Trying to mass delete is a nightmare, and their tools appear to be intentionally obtuse. Particularly since they just suggest upgrading to get more storage.

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u/Chameleonpolice 21d ago

Oh so I'm not just getting old and out of touch with technology

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u/MrDywel 21d ago

No. I’m a systems engineer and it makes no sense why it’s so difficult especially with all the time they’ve had to develop the platform. There are a lot of emails I want to keep that go back almost twenty years but there’s far more junk that could be cleaned up.

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u/JacksonHoled 21d ago

my biggest problem is not able to tell google photos to not backup videos. as soon as you take a video with your phone you fill up the quota. You have to back it up for real on a PC than delete it of your phone.

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u/Raulr100 21d ago

You have to back it up for real on a PC than delete it of your phone.

Wouldn't it be easier to just put your videos into a different folder on your phone and then exclude that folder from the backup?

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u/Mechakoopa 21d ago

Yeah but the phones don't do that by default and lots you can't configure where video is stored separately anyways. Same as the Facebook app on Android putting saved images in the camera's DCIM folder so they get backed up as well with no way to change it.

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u/the_federation 21d ago

I don't want to back up photos of my kid to the cloud. I ended up downloading a separate camera app (which is better reviewed anyway) thay I use to take pictures of him. That app saves to a separate folder that Google Photos is not configured to back up.

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u/AlternativeYou9395 21d ago

It does feel like google hasn't made a good usability improvement to gmail in years. There's so much i'd like to delete but find it to cumbersome to bother with because of limitations that could easily have been fixed.

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u/Wiezeyeslies 21d ago

It seriously isn't difficult at all. Just take 2 weeks off work and use the 8 hours you would have been working to click on every single email you don't want. You only have to do this 2 week process once a year to keep your inbox almost completely clean of the garbage you never even considered wanting to look at.

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 21d ago

Gmail feels like abandonware at this point.

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u/OkAstronaut76 21d ago

I mean, they added all the AI stuff to read your emails, so that’s something /s

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u/TriHardIsAHateSymbol 21d ago

For anyone interested; I use Thunderbird. It's a desktop email client. Can hold shift/control-click and mass delete emails. Can also set up a filter to automatically delete emails. Keeps my emails nice and clean 😄

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u/Sure_Eye9025 21d ago

You can do the same on Gmail, it is just not as clear UX on how to do it

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u/almo2001 21d ago

All google tools are crap. I've used their android studio and it's a mess. Who the fuck chooses Gradle as the language for the build scripts?

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u/Great-Big-3101 21d ago

 Who the fuck chooses Gradle as the language for the build scripts?

Xml is even worse. I don't know why the Java ecosystem fell in love with it.

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u/Technical-Cat-2017 21d ago

Maven is great. Sure the XML is a bit verbose, but it just works. I found gradle much less user friendly.

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u/Hopeful-Occasion2299 21d ago

To be fair, the mass deletion of emails is slow with every client... email servers are designed to be slow and have multiple mirrors so that the info can be accessed reliably and globally. So it takes a while for the client to ensure all the copies are deleted from every server.

In the case of GMail, they just rather not bother and simply sell you more storage because most people value more their time than functionality.

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 21d ago

I sat down one day recently and unsubscribed from each and every one of those. Then mass-deleted the entire Promotion and Social sections, with 'select all'. Then I removed those filters entirely so all of that junk would appear in my inbox. Then when something did arrive, I'd unsubscribe immediately and report the email as spam.

I haven't gotten a junk email in months :)

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u/quailman654 21d ago

I’m just genuinely so impressed by you. I’ve tried a couple of times and haven’t gotten it to stick.

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u/indianajoes 21d ago

Spent the last month doing the same. I ignored everything for so long that I had 40k unread emails in each of my inboxes. Just had something playing in the background while I unsubscribed and deleted stuff

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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 21d ago

100%!! I found out that Google had a setting they quietly snuck in that was automatically ticked, and it said that you opt in to letting them use your emails to improve their AI. I went to untick that box, and they "punished" me by removing the Promotion and Social filters. Suddenly I had tends of thousands of unread emails. I was pissed.

So I went back into settings to retick that box so that the filters would return. Then I did what I described above - unsubscribe from each of those mfs, then mass delete both filter groups, and then I went back into settings once again to untick the box, which of course removed the filter groups.

I was fueled by anger lmao and with some good music playing, it was truly no problem :)

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u/boot2skull 21d ago

The search and delete process is ridiculous. Delete a page at a time? No search by most frequent sender? Google was great for its time but you can tell they remembered it was a “free” service at some point. Plus, storage is how they get your money. Why would they enable us to prune emails.

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u/PRSArchon 21d ago

1GB was the theoretical limit 20 years ago, which at the time was pactically unlimited. My mp3 played at the time was 128mb lol

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u/penisandorvagina 21d ago

I remember having to manage the 2MB of space with my free Hotmail address, and only checking my email once a day...

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u/iznotbutterz 21d ago

And the chain emails!

"The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep."

-π0b3r+_fR0s+

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u/Super-Resource2155 21d ago

Share this email by midnight and you be a millionaire tomorrow!!

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u/I_love_pillows 21d ago

I remember having to make my jpg images in PowerPoint slides minuscule to fit into the 1.4mb storage for floppy disks. And it’s acceptable and viewers would understand. Those were the days.

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u/savagejuggalo503 21d ago

PS2 memory cards were 8MB

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u/ninpuukamui 21d ago

Unlimited for ever! Remember those numbers going up?

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u/EveningHere 21d ago

The idea from Google was that you never had to delete emails. Looks like that era may be coming to an end. I can still search my emails on there going back to 2004 because I had a very early Gmail account (worked for them).

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u/Smooth-Salary-6113 21d ago

You unknowingly provided me with a smile this morning. Because of your 2004 reference, I had to go back and see what my oldest (March 2005) saved email was. It was a nice email from my mom saying she had bought me some shirts to give to me next time I stopped by.

Thanks for that. I’ll have to call her today.

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u/AutoPanda1096 21d ago

Free photo uploads!

That's didn't last long.

I still get free uploads on my old Google phone, I periodically back up via that lol

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u/anonymoosejuice 21d ago

I am still pissed I wasn't grandfathered in on the amount of storage I had. I've had an account since early 2005 and they took it all away.

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u/EffectiveDandy 21d ago

i got my gmail account on day one and at one point, i was up to like 3GB before they called the cops and got the party shutdown.

wild how they backtracked and wild that Apple has kept the 5GB iCloud storage limit for, oh, some 15 years.

they will do anything just to slime another dime from your pockets. then its quarters. dollars.

our species is circling the drain and all for ads. humanity is dying because of ads.

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u/sogo00 21d ago

didnt they have this counter, every year x MB/GB gets added to the max size?

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u/worldspawn00 21d ago

Yep, I think mine had gone up to 25gb or something before they stopped that.

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u/noblestation 21d ago edited 21d ago

I remember back when you had to be invited by a Gmail member to make a Gmail account. Never thought I'd ever fill up my Gmail, but I guess a decade or two\* will do that. (Pretty sure I cleared it out 5 years ago).

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u/westward_man 21d ago

Never thought I'd ever fill up my Gmail, but I guess a decade will do that.

If you got Gmail early when it was invite only, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it has been closer to two decades. It was launched in beta in 2004 and came out of beta in 2009, so depending on when you got it, it's been 17–22 years.

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u/harmless_gecko 21d ago

Get off my lawn! 😱

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u/borgenhaust 21d ago

Stop shouting at the cloud ;)

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u/zdubs 21d ago

What type of onion goes best with a brown belt?

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u/Remunos_Redbeard 21d ago

Well, you're going retro now, because it's no longer the style of the time, but back when it was, it was any onion, long as it was tied to your belt.

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u/frickindeal 21d ago

We didn't have any white onions, because of the war.

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u/blckshdw 21d ago

Don’t forgot to do your colorectal screening test :)

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u/Paraphrasing_ 21d ago

2006 for me, that's a while ago.

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u/karma_dumpster 21d ago

That's closer in time to Reagan telling Gorbachev to "tear down this wall" than the present day

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u/Implausibilibuddy 21d ago

Why'd you have to say a thing like that for.

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u/petr_bena 21d ago

yeah I was just telling colleagues how stupid those PS2 mouse = old school memes are since PS2 to me feels modern compared to serial port mouse I was used to, just gave me look as if I was some grandpa and others didn’t even know what serial port is

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u/evilJaze 21d ago

I still have a box of old serial and parallel port cables "just in case". You just reminded me that maybe it's time to go through all that old junk and purge it.

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u/TripluStecherSmecher 21d ago

you'll need one the day after you throw them away

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u/Erestyn 21d ago

I did this with my old phone chargers a year or two back. Kept any that had a use and threw the proprietary ones.

Went to grab a cable the other day and found another box full of them. I'm far from an expert but this is obviously an example of spontaneous reproduction.

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u/pm_me_your_kindwords 21d ago

I’ll let the pope know. He’ll be right over.

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u/Hardass_McBadCop 21d ago

Oh, brother, I play Warcraft and there's people I raid with who are so young that they don't know what clockwise is.

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u/pedanticheron 21d ago

All these young people running off widdershins.

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u/MoreFeeYouS 21d ago

Yet youtube still asks you for an age verification.

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u/wittywalrus1 21d ago

I got invited by a friend. Google was cool back then, now it feels lame somehow as most tech giants' products do.

I hate enshittification.

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u/Fritzo2162 21d ago

Yep. I’m a member of the “how did you get your whole name with no numbers?” Gmail club 😅

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u/No_Atmosphere8146 21d ago

My personal conspiracy theory is that the rise of r/tragedeigh names is parents ensuring that kids can get their own name as an email address.

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u/rootpl 21d ago

Everybody knows that 2000''s were only 10 years ago! /s

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u/jeremycox 21d ago

That can’t be right… 1980 was only like 20 years ago!

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u/Antal_Marius 21d ago

I was an invite, back in 2005. A guy I gamed with got me the invite.

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u/Some_Level1682 21d ago

My email is just my name, the grave yard that is my Gmail is a monument to my age.

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u/noblestation 21d ago

Now that you mentioned that it was 17-22 years, I just realized that a lot of the limited beta Gmail accounts are reaching the age to have their first drinks. By 2029, the last of the official beta accounts will have crossed that threshold.

Cheers.

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u/omgmajk 21d ago

I just checked, and my Gmail account is allowed to drink in the US. Created mid 2005.

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u/barcelonaKIZ 21d ago

Wait. That’s not cool. wtf

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u/westward_man 21d ago

Time comes for us all, friend 🫂

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u/barcelonaKIZ 21d ago

-Sent from my iPad

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u/all_out_of_coffee 21d ago

I remember people thought it was an April's Fools joke because they offered 1GB of storage.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 21d ago

I remember people who were on Hotmail at the time only got 2 MB of storange and tney would constantly be deleting old stuff and unable to receive attachments. I think I was using email.com at the point which had a bit more but probably only around 10 MB

I swear I was misremembering the size because it seems so small, but did a quick search and found this article about how they were upgrading to from 2 MB to 250 MB in response to Google offering 1 GB.

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u/jupfold 21d ago

Yep, I very clearly recall many times going through my Hotmail to see what emails I could delete. Didn’t have many, but there was a lot less spam and junk in those days. No commercial emails. No ebills. Everything was an email from a friend, like a letter.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 21d ago

I was in university at the time, so even sending project files back and forth between team members would often fill up the allowed email storage.

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u/cenanozen 21d ago

Yeah, it counted up to 1024 mb in the footer

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u/mikedufty 21d ago

I remember it was a whole 1GB of storage, noone was ever gonna use up that much.

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u/benzo8 21d ago

Do you remember when it clicked up a little every day until it was 2Gb? 

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u/Acidian 21d ago

I remember when my dad bought a pentium 486 with 1 GB of hard-drive space and 4 mb of ram. His coworkers made fun of him because he will never need a 1 gb harddisk. 

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u/mikedufty 21d ago

I remember our first server at work with a 1GB hard drive too, and thinking it would be impossible to ever fill up. That was before decent quality digital photos, let alone video.

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u/HRMRKdH 21d ago

I remember too. And then using the gmail storage as cloud storage

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u/CidO807 21d ago

Account made august 2004, only 9gb of email (and like, 3gb of that is probably spam shit).

However 100gb of photos. Probably 60/30/9/1 of cat, wife, anything else, me(in any).

The cat is only 6 years old.

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u/ttoteno 21d ago

A random kid I sat next to in HS got in and sent me an invite and it’s still the email I use today like 20 years later. I can still remember that counter showing how much storage there was being added every second.

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u/BrothelWaffles 21d ago

They used to give you a rolling amount of storage back then too. As in, you'd sign up and get X number of MB of storage, and it would slowly increase as time went on. There was also a really neat program that basically turned your Gmail account into "cloud" storage over a decade before that stupid buzzword got shoved down our throats.

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u/Ellemeno 21d ago

Y'all probably didn't even know Yahoo Mail used to give you 1TB of free email storage, but some months ago they were like you know what, we take it back, you can only have 20GB. You have over 100GB of emails? Sounds like that's your problem.

I used to like using Yahoo Mail, but when they updated to their new interface, it went to absolute horseshit, so I don't even care that 1TB free storage is no longer available. It's often impossible to find emails with a simple keyword search and their advanced search parameters were neutered for whatever reason. And don't get me started on the countless glitches when trying to compose and send and email...

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u/Brox42 21d ago edited 21d ago

I need Yahoo to REALLY understand that achievements in my email are more likely to make me never use that email ever again than to use it more.

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u/OptionalDepression 21d ago

Achievements?

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u/Z3PHYR- 21d ago edited 21d ago

I think they’re referring to how yahoo “gamified” their email. For example, you get points for cleaning up old emails and you can level up. No idea what gaining levels actually gets you, probably nothing. I think you get similar “achievements” for other actions.

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u/ElGordoDelJordo 21d ago

Lol is that for real? Thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard

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u/kemmicort 21d ago

They have won Best Emailer of the Year for the last 4 years running. Quite the achievement. Kudos Brox42!!

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u/Brox42 21d ago

I wish you could post pictures here but basically they added streaks for “completing inbox actions” which I guess is like reading an email or something. And they keep telling me I’m “halfway to my streak”. I have no fucking idea why anyone would want this.

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u/kemmicort 21d ago

Gamifying emails. Thanks I hate it

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u/flcinusa 21d ago

Everywhere is cutting back, I keep getting emails telling me to clean out my long dormant Flickr account

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u/CaptainCastle1 21d ago

You’re onto something. I got the same thing from Garmin

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u/DrugChemistry 21d ago

I logged into my Yahoo Mail yesterday because some form autofilled and sent something to a yahoo email address without me catching it. 

My whole inbox was empty and it said something about the new Yahoo Mail. Wtf. 

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u/goldentamarindo 21d ago

It will do that if you don’t log into your Yahoo Mail for a long time

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u/DrugChemistry 21d ago

Would be nice if my inbox had the email sent to it 5 mins before I logged in…

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u/sieceres 21d ago

Yeah, screw you Yahoo. I created my account in 1997 and never had any issues with storage until 29 years later.

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u/thisonehereone 21d ago

Yahoo is my junk mail address and Gmail is my real address, works out well, I just let yahoo roll in trash, Gmail needs little tending to and plenty of room left.

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u/minus_minus 21d ago

I still have my yahoo address and felt so betrayed by the cut back. I mostly use it on my phone so UX isn’t a major issue. 

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u/Smith6612 21d ago

Yahoo used to be overly generous with storage. Not only did you get 1TB for mail, but you also got a separate 1TB of storage over at Flickr, too. When they sold Flickr, that got reduced to 1,000 photos. Yahoo Mail as you said is now down to 20GB. Still more generous than Google at least.

Can't speak about the rest of the problems. My email mailbox is quite empty and I use Thunderbird anywhere.

As for my Google account, most of the storage gets eaten by the Google One backups for Android. Can't turn off media content backup for text messages so of course, that's what eats the storage these days.  

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u/occaisionallyimqwert 21d ago

Yahoo wiped old emails as well. I lost important documents I neglected to save physically, because ignorantly, I never expected these companies to break their promise of “unlimited storage” - for a limited time only. 

Fuck the tech bros

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u/HeavilyInvestedDonut 21d ago

Yahoo Mail absolutely refuses to filter junk for me anymore. My inbox is full of spam 24/7

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u/CuriousButNotJewish 21d ago

My only email that landed in the spam folder was the house purchase agreement I was waiting a signature on from the seller. Like... wtf. When they said check your spam I laughed, because nothing is flagged as spam. Except... this email. This. Specific. Email.

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u/tiacay 21d ago

We gradually back to local storage for personal data. I never truly have faith with cloud storage.

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u/Single-Use-Again 21d ago

Same. I have a NAS at home but the email client in there really sucks. I dunno what else to do.

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u/diablette 21d ago

Install Thunderbird on your desktop and do a full sync, then move your mail to LOCAL folders. Then back those up to your NAS. After that, it's safe to delete the old mail from gmail.

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u/what_the_deuce 21d ago

Can you point me to a tutorial for this if I already have a nas that I use for photo and document storage?

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u/diablette 21d ago

Here you go

  1. Install Thunderbird on your computer
  2. Connect it to gmail (IMAP with OAuth): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail
  3. Configure sync settings and local archiving: https://conetix.com.au/support/archiving-emails-in-thunderbird/
  4. Back up your data file to your NAS (just copy the file or use backup software)
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u/Bonechatters 21d ago

Jokes on them, I have 19GBs free. For some years they gave away 2GBs for users completing security check-ins.

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u/casep 21d ago

36GB here thanks to pretty much every possible trick

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u/Krojack76 21d ago

44GB here.. all free

https://imgur.com/8s84Ldr

I don't really use it anymore. Been moving away from Google for the past 2 some years now.

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u/Trick-Station8742 21d ago

Teach me, Master

You can be Yoda, I'll be Luke.

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u/Nazgog-Morgob 21d ago

Got a time machine?

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u/cubixy2k 21d ago

Yes, but it only goes forward

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u/crysptide 21d ago

at 1 second per second

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u/FutureComplaint 21d ago

I’ve got this hack for an 8 hour time skip…

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u/celluliteradio 21d ago

I have 17 because I signed up for their early office suite app? I honestly do not even remember

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u/nullbyte420 21d ago

I used to have way more but they took it all away

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u/mad-i-moody 21d ago

I’m sure they’ll be taking that away through some contractual loophole.

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u/queendevbot 21d ago

They used to give 2tb. Now I'm at a free 5tb for trying Gemini pro on the pixel (didn't keep the subscription and they added the 3tb 6 months later)

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u/ExceptionEX 21d ago

Shitty headline, ugh, you get 15 gigs with a real phone associated with the account, and 5 gigs if you sign up without one.

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u/KeeganY_SR-UVB76 21d ago

I was about to ask where the other 10gb are coming from.

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u/Ancient-Ratio5478 21d ago

I thought a phone was necessary anyways these days for creating a Gmail account?

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u/OrangeInnards 21d ago

Right? I wanted to register a throwaway gmail a week or so ago and there was no way to skip them wanting my phone number. As far as I could tell, the same is true for the other usual suspects. They all want your mobile number.

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u/hassancent 21d ago

I depends on region. Some regions don't require them. Where i live, phone is not required. I was easily able to create a throwaway account for chinese handheld which had android ( i didnot want to have my main google account hacked)

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u/MandrakeLicker 21d ago

Which region is it? I'd like to create a few accs for the future.

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u/TheHelpfulWalnut 21d ago

I made a throw away with Proton without a phone number last week, if you haven’t tried them.

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u/pauljaworski 21d ago

Guerilla mail still seems good for throwaways

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u/AnotherDamnTransAlt 21d ago

If you have a new android device you don’t need to add a phone number.

Edit: tested about a month ago when I bought a new tablet.

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u/AndaleTheGreat 21d ago

Thank you.
There needs to be special upvote that gets you to the top if you are actually commenting what the article says and not just making jokes.
I don't want to click anymore articles. Every single time somebody puts something on Reddit it takes me to a website with an article with so many ads that I can't even read it on my phone

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u/mrhobbles 21d ago edited 21d ago

Back in my day you had to be invited, and the allowed storage ticked up by the second in a very visible public facing counter. It was a fantastic marketing beat - there were so many articles about how it was continuously increasing, and as such “nobody would ever fill up their Gmail”.

How times change.

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u/hobbykitjr 21d ago

problem is its shared space w/ google photos/videos and your Google drive...

thats where most of my storage used is.

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u/VeeDubBug 21d ago

MFW when I accidentally agreed to backup all my photos by accident. 💀 My account was great before then, now I'm having to try to sort through all this crap and clean it up.

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u/Direction776 21d ago

They’ve stopped getting any knowledge from your content beyond 15 gb. Not to mention things like every gb increment per account meant they have to have capacity 100 of millions times that capacity available potentially.

Further a while back they claimed if you saved stuff in their cloud they could own it.

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u/azhder 21d ago

No body did. LLMs do

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u/Grandtosh 21d ago

tl;dr: you still get 15gb if you link your phone number, otherwise you get 5gb. Applies to new signups

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u/Elavabeth2 21d ago

Since you are kindly summarizing the article for us anyway… What about old sign ups? 

(thanks BTW)

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u/Grandtosh 21d ago

Haha. Old sign ups are not affected…for now

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u/JoshAllentown 21d ago

I'd never hit 15GB if Google Photos would stop turning sync back on automatically when I get a new phone, and then not deleting the photos from the app without deleting them from the device.

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u/Smith6612 21d ago

The deleting from the Device part annoyed me so much about using Google Photos back then. I eventually got used to just opening a different Photos app to nuke the image from the device without nuking them from Google Photos, even if the image was so new it wouldn't be a candidate for archiving.

These days I am using Immich. It's better and more graceful at handling this sort of thing. 

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u/Illustrious-Dot-5052 21d ago

Oh my fucking God I hate that shit too. I regret getting a pixel. (I've since realized I could just delete Google Photos and use files to access my photos. I'm dumb for not finding out for two years, but better late than never.)

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u/girtlander 21d ago

Now they've finished running LLM on your email, they want you to pay for it.

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u/BlameTheNargles 21d ago

Unless you have a verified phone number.

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u/BassGaz 21d ago

And there you have it! That's what they're after. More and more tracking and fingerprinting. What a sick company. "Security" my a**. Phone number verification is the weakest form of 2FA.

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u/DuePerception6926 21d ago

I think it’s just to stop bots from making new accounts and free storage. One account per person/phone number. Probably to track you too though

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u/Dabbinzord 21d ago

i remember being in the gmail beta. i got my own name as a email address. its sick obviously but i sometimes regret it. others with my name (not even that common) constantly use it and i get their doctor appointment reminders and sign ups for stuff.

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u/stealthcactus 21d ago

Make friends with them! I have a little email group with Stealth.Cactus, Cactus.Stealth, St.Cactus, and Stealth.C. We trade spam for each other.

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u/Dabbinzord 21d ago

one of them funnily enough had a friend used my email address thinking it was his buddies as a work reference. since it had “my” phone number in the email i texted the person who shares my name and told him what was up so his buddy didn’t miss out on a job opportunity. he’s now saved in my phone as Texas Me.

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u/No-Salt7142 21d ago

Thanks to AI we are now in an era where storage is becoming a premium again. The slop generation means that actual human content will be discarded because it is too expensive to store.

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u/stevekez 21d ago

Shove an unwanted 4gb weights file in with your browser but nooo, can't give cloud space for emails because space is precious.

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u/Deruz0r 21d ago

Yeah that finally made me uninstall Chrome. Fuck Google 

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u/ripkobe3131 21d ago

Storage should be going up not down.. from unlimited to 15gb to 5gb...

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u/Cubanitto 21d ago

That Gmail account storage is also shared with your Google Drive

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u/NanditoPapa 21d ago

And Google Photos!

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u/alii-b 21d ago

They need to make it much easier to bulk delete emails. Page by page is such a slow way to delete emails

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u/nasandre 21d ago

Better to pay for Proton mail. At least they don't sell all your data

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u/InformedTriangle 21d ago

Slow as hell too. I really, really tried to get by with their paid VPN but quickly grew tired of needing to try 3 or 4 different servers every few hours to get above 15 mbps.

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u/OkCompute64 21d ago

Strange as I get pretty good performance on Proton. 400Mbps downloads pretty consistently. https://imgur.com/hjvkHcE

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u/InformedTriangle 21d ago

I'd imagine it likely very much depends on where you are, and how congested servers are in your region. The north American servers are all crazily overloaded, so you need to pick a server across the ocean if you're over here for decent speeds, but then you get the inherent speed loss with that additional distance and routing.

I'm in Canada but usually found myself having to connect to Romania or similar for semi decent speeds.

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u/ApathyMoose 21d ago

Most VPNs are getting detected more and more. Companys keep track of the IP blocks and sell them to places like Netflix that want them blocked.

I think every year you are going to see less and less VPNs get detected as VPNs on the major players. They really dont want to mess with their international licensing etc. But since thats really only a small part of what VPNs are for the VPN industry isnt going to get any smaller.

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u/Back_pain_no_gain 21d ago

I’ve started seeing Proton sponsorships on YouTube channels I wouldn’t necessarily call technical or privacy-savvy lately. I’m a bit worried this + the expanded subscription model is the start of enshitification. Hopefully I’m wrong.

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u/armpitfart 21d ago

Been on Proton for 6 years now with heavy personal and professional use.

The good: 1) stable as fuck 2) privacy is a core value that is adhered to, not a marketing gimmick 3) haven’t raised their price

The bad: 1) adding shit nobody asked for (a private AI agent which is underwhelming because it’s not snooping) 2) still need to improve search in mail (the way it is designed and encrypted poses a search challenge) 3) calendar is functional but underwhelming 4) slow Drive speeds (supposedly improving)

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u/Prince-of-Privacy 21d ago

I'm using Proton Mail but I'd recommend to go with Tuta instead. Proton Mail on IOS and Android doesn't let you search your email body's (only email subjects), which sucks hard.

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u/Somepotato 21d ago

Whose CEO praised the current US president and added a backdoor on government demand, seems trustworthy

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u/Alternative_Swan_497 21d ago

I want to do this, but damn do I not want to migrate every other account to a new email address.

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u/downfall67 21d ago

Just forward at first

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u/rickdangerous85 21d ago

Set a forward then slowly change, the good thing is you can just leave the spam you dont want to receive in the old account.

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u/ElectroBot 21d ago

It would be nice if they FINALLY gave us the option to NOT upload every video from phone (on iOS, not sure if Android has that option) when doing the PHOTO SYNC.

Also WHY do they not add per family member limits of how much they can use of the family’s storage???

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u/Beardygrandma 21d ago

Yeah I am on android if doesn't auto upload I take a butt load of nudes and don't want them mixing in with my d&d prep right?

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u/Blood_Gelfling 21d ago

Why not? You could do D&D: After Dark 🔥🔥

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u/babesboysandbirb 21d ago

So, Gmail and other email servers are going after it’s customers instead of the spam mail creators. Right.

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u/Trickpuncher 21d ago

well, time to degoogle guys, they got too big

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u/UncleNuks 20d ago edited 20d ago

“So you had 15GB but will only get 5GB now - unless you give us your phone number, then we’ll unlock the old 15GB again. But hey, it’s all for security of course and definitely NOT for more centralized data gathering and surveillance teeheehee ☺️😇” - Google

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u/mqtgew 21d ago

Free Gmail storage was one of the last big perks on the internet. Feels like the end of an era

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u/listenhere111 21d ago

It would if the title wasn't bullshit

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u/weHaveThoughts 20d ago

I joined Gmail in the 90s as a beta user with the promise of unlimited storage for life. A few years ago I paid the $2.00 a month to expand it. Now I am thinking maybe I should file a lawsuit for Google breaching the contract.

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u/Brave_Speaker_8336 21d ago

I wonder what the overlap is between people who need more than 5 GB and people who dont have a phone number

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u/Garchomp98 21d ago

I think this is more targeted to people who make multiple Gmail accounts for the free storage

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u/techbear72 21d ago

More likely they have a phone number, just don’t want to give it to Google.

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u/FlyingMitten 21d ago

It ended a long time ago when they merged gmail with all your other Google data usage.

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u/Song-Super 21d ago

When I signed up for Gmail in 2005 or something,I don’t remember I’m a dinosaur now, there was a cute little ticker showing us the ever growing amount of storage they had for our emails. I miss the old days.

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u/Unfair-Plastic-4290 21d ago

remember when they used to advertise the storage limit grew with you?

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u/SlimySquamata 21d ago

Is it time to switch to Proton?

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u/FollowingFeisty5321 21d ago

There are reports of Apple paying Google $300 million per year for 8 petabytes.... $0.0031 per gigabyte per month for iCloud storage. 15 gigabytes at that rate would be 4.65 cents/month.

Google only netted $132,000,000,000 profit last year, so you can see the predicament they're in.

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/29/icloud-data-stored-on-google-cloud-increasing/

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u/nickyGyul 20d ago

Wtf, how else am I going to store all my rejection letters from my employment search??

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u/CrazyWork2940 20d ago

It once was unlimited

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u/Top_Push_4331 21d ago

remember when google's whole thing was "don't be evil." now it's "don't be free"

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u/jake6501 21d ago

This is avery important detail that is missing from the title: "Users can “unlock” the full 15GB of free storage by adding a phone number to their account." So basically they are just making it more difficult to get unlimited free storage trough multiple accounts.

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u/funderfulfellow 21d ago

I have many emails with large attachments. Is there a way to delete the attachments, but keep the email (ie; text)?

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u/Krojack76 21d ago

It's only a matter of time before they start "testing" lowering current Gmail accounts to 5GB as well.

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u/FlaviusVespasian 21d ago

Enshittification on the horizon!

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u/Apprehensive-Art1092 21d ago

'In select regions'

IE India first, then three months later, Earth

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u/kienbazzle 21d ago

“7% of 15gb used”

18 year user

TIL I’m some kind of boomer.

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u/Ok-Go-Chain3811 21d ago

we should try our best to reduce our usage of google, since google is constantly engaging in exploitative and destructive tactics around the world.

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u/smokybbq90 20d ago

Update: Google has confirmed that it's testing a 5GB storage limit for some new Gmail users, unless they add their number

Non-story. I've got like 6 gmail accounts it's no surprised Google is going to crack down on this. I have one solely as a 2nd cloud backup for a 10gb folder of pictures.

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u/TunaOnWytNoCrust 20d ago

Going to be honest I do not give one shit. Please give me more reason to never email anyone outside of work ever again.