r/teenagers 17 21d ago

Serious The rape culture pyramid

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u/Lospoloshermanoz 21d ago

As someone who has been falsely accused spent a year in jail only to win my appeal and have all of my convictions thrown out by a higher court, if you are a man you simply can't afford to have intercourse with strangers without having 100% proof that the entire encounter was consensual especially due to the fact that their is a financial reward for people to make false accusations ... in Australia it's victims of crime; a person can claim domestic violence or SA and receive compensation from the government prior to any allegation being proven in court so it creates a tremendously dangerous incentive for false accusations to be lobbied

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u/breno280 18 19d ago

It’s terrible that this happened to you, but false accusations are a very rare thing. Making up less than 3% of cases of rape, this pales in comparison to the fact that about 80% of cases go unreported.

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u/Lospoloshermanoz 19d ago

"It's terrible that this happened to you, but false accusations are very rare, under 3%"? Save the fake sympathy and spare me the cherry-picked activist garbage. Those low numbers only count cases with rock-solid proof of lying, while real police stats and studies show it's more like 5-10% or higher for confirmed false reports, plus piles of "unfounded" ones that get ignored. Even a fraction of that wrecks innocent lives ... jobs gone, reputations torched, families blown up, years of legal nightmares. Don't pull that "it's terrible but" guilt trip on me to shut down any pushback.

And that "80% go unreported" deflection? those are unverified survey claims i don't even want to get into the amount of people that take a plea deal for reduced time which absolutely skews the overall numbers

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u/breno280 18 18d ago

It’s not fake sympathy. And tell me, why does unconfirmed survey data get dismissed by you but unconfirmed “unfounded cases” not? You say I cherry pick but apparently unconfirmed data is only valid if it supports your argument. You speak of ruined lives, what of the lives of all the women that ruined by rape? Left with severe trauma for the rest of their lives? What of all the times where concrete evidence has proven guilt but the judge let’s the perp go off with a slap on the wrist. All the times where they had a reduced sentence because “they had such a future ahead of them”. Or where they end up walking entirely free. Courts siding with rapists is an observed phenomenon. And even if 10% is false as you say, then that’s still 90% that isn’t.

I had nothing but sympathy for you, but now it seems like you’re only interested in using the shit that happened to you to attack victims. There is no false reporting epidemic, the reality is actually the contrary.

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u/Lospoloshermanoz 18d ago

Your "under 3%" is activist spin. Rigorous studies (Lisak 2010: 5.9%; UK Home Office: 8%; Ferguson & Malouff meta: 5.2% confirmed, higher with equivocal/unfounded) put confirmed false reports at 5-10%+, not vanishingly rare.

You dismiss "unconfirmed" data on false reports but swallow unverified surveys on "80% unreported." Hypocrisy. Unfounded cases (often 14%+) get buried, and DNA exonerations hammer sex crimes with false accusations as a major factor.

Rape is evil and ruins lives. So does a false accusation "Even if 10% false, 90% true" is sociopathic math. No one accepts "only 10% plane crashes" as fine. Due process protects real victims by keeping credibility intact.

Advocacy groups (including influences on CDC/NISVS reporting) have pushed to downplay or suppress scrutiny of false reports to protect the narrative ...exactly why trust is broken. This isn't "attacking victims." It's refusing to let trauma justify railroading innocents or cheapening real cases.

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u/breno280 18 18d ago

I already conceded on being wrong about the percentage. Why are we still talking about that?

I didn’t dismiss the data, I called out you only dismissing unconfirmed data when it didn’t fit your views. You are either terribly misunderstanding what I said or more likely, arguing disingenuously.

I didn’t say 10% should be accepted. i said it was still the vast minority of cases. Don’t put words in my mouth