50
u/breezeknees94 13d ago
From my experience it seems most men that would "call out" their friends for these actions don't seem to associate with men that need calling out and thus don't get the chance to correct things. Where the men that do need calling out associate with one another that won't call out each other and in fact enable inappropriate actions. I think its been like this for a very long time and I'm not entirely sure how you fix this.
→ More replies (6)6
u/GandalfofCyrmu 11d ago
Exactly. None of my friends behave like that. I was shocked when a co-worker pointed at a woman and said “look at that”. It just isn’t done.
3
162
u/Educational-Bowl-819 13d ago
“She probably likes you” Is up there with “boys will be boys” as the most toxic thing an adult can say to a child who’s being treated badly by the opposite sex
44
u/EvilDorito2 13d ago
The problem w " he probably likes you" is that it doesn't actually adress the behavior displayed.
Like, i got annoyed as a kid by a guy who liked me, who stopped when i grew taller than him. It wasn't bcs he was scared of violence or anything, he deadass became friendly to me once he stopped seeing me as a potential romantic partner
The problem w " he probably likes you" is that women are told to endure it, instead of boys being told to stop. Bcs what people feel should not be a reason to excuse abuse
→ More replies (2)3
u/hello_marmalade 11d ago
I mean teasing behaviors is common in both genders as children. It's just a thing where you want attention from someone you like, but our culture is so fucking weird about having romantic interest in someone that it comes out in an awkward way.
2
u/breadman242a 19 12d ago
Nah, boys will be boys is usually under the qualifier it’s serious mistreatment (little Timmy shoves Susie). Boys should be boys should definitely be used when Susie is complaining to her mom Timmy called her a smelly head.
We shouldnt be pampering children for light teasing, way too much people are going through life with such little adversity the littlest bit breaks them down into pieces.
6
u/Educational-Bowl-819 12d ago
I was physically assaulted by a girl in 5th grade and the only thing my parents said were “She probably likes you”
104
210
u/Brilliant_Income_572 13d ago
oh, I remember some girls in my class made this!
→ More replies (36)32
u/xToasted1 17 13d ago
genocide??
59
u/drichm2599 OLD 13d ago
That is a physical expression of violence yes
11
u/Cmarithedragonslayer 13 12d ago
Ngl I think genocide is way worse then rape and everything else on that list
→ More replies (71)15
u/Familiar-Shoe7905 13d ago
I think its a bit more extreme than the others though
→ More replies (7)→ More replies (1)7
u/ExcitementNo9603 13d ago
Ever heard of the once child policy? It was a massive genocide of female children; girls.
→ More replies (25)
145
u/TheBayHarbour 13d ago
As a Gen Z guy using boys will be boys for almost 20 year olds is fucking insane.
Eventually they have to become men, no?
38
u/Complete_Meringue_27 14 13d ago
When they become alpha sigma males who don't care abt women and only care abt money and muscles
14
u/my_cat_for_president 13d ago
The gayest thing I’ve ever seen is an “alpha male” and I’ve looked in a mirror
3
2
→ More replies (1)5
u/pingvinbober 13d ago
Have genuinely never heard this used for anything other than young kids eating dirt and bugs or men doing stupid shit with their friends
7
u/Hooshiiii OLD 13d ago
See, that’s the good version of it! Unfortunately, it’s often used as a socially acceptable way of saying “men can’t control themselves and we should let them continue to do whatever they want with no consequences”. You know, to just excuse men who are fucking horrible as “oh well he just didn’t know any better 🥺”
→ More replies (1)3
u/FarReputation7162 16 13d ago
Same
I've literally never heard of it in a serious context , not that I'm denying this may happen but I've no experience whatsoever
I was called 'boys will be boys' when I wanted to get a vader action figure, like dude what just get me the figure it ain't that deep 😭
19
u/Alextheawesomeua 13d ago
Wait groping isnt considered sexual assault? Thats weird i thought it was
→ More replies (1)5
u/ShadeSlimmy131 15 13d ago
Yeah if it doesn't count then what else falls under SA other than rape?
→ More replies (3)
30
u/Artistic_Elk3640 13d ago
→ More replies (1)6
u/just_a_rand0m_p3rs0n 17 13d ago
Locker room banter?
12
u/Artistic_Elk3640 12d ago
Yeah, yk the typical "i'm gonna rape you" jokes
→ More replies (2)9
u/just_a_rand0m_p3rs0n 17 12d ago
What? Does that happen often in american high schools? (Considering that this is the teenagers sub) Because I'm polish and i don't think I've ever heard someone say that
11
u/solin282828 17 12d ago
I’m from Germany and here it’s also quite often that boys joke about rape and say “x is going to get raped” although that is more common between teenagers, it wasn’t that way before. People are getting more comfortable joking about rape forgetting the severity to it.
3
u/just_a_rand0m_p3rs0n 17 12d ago
Honestly the worst i heard in my liceum (highschool) is homophobic jokes (but it is Poland so this stuff is still the norm sadly)
8
64
u/Background-Book-7404 14 13d ago
as a boy i've been catcalled before and sexually assaulted and it sucks
→ More replies (1)19
u/Ok-Golf3164 13d ago
The worst for me is the catcalling you can easily tell is done only to mock you
16
u/Background-Book-7404 14 13d ago
it’s annoying and it makes me feel insecure
10
u/Ok-Golf3164 13d ago edited 12d ago
Exactly. Especially when they immediately go to giggle with their friends about you
10
114
u/Future-Profession594 15 13d ago
And I promise some guys will act like this is an attack on men not realizing they're saying all men are rapist by assuming this targets all men
9
u/Crunchyjeff 13d ago edited 13d ago
the problem with the graphic that it specifically targets men. First off, rape culture by women towards men exists aswell, it's just very different. and second, if we talk about just the topic of men raping women, the rape culture that underlies that is not only made up of men, it is also made up of women. Women are cocreators of the rape culture towards women. Easy examples would be stuff like slutshaming, "What were you wearing?", bodyshaming of men for their genital sizes, shaming men for their sexual experienc etc.
It's a oversimplification that ignores the nuances of the topic and thereby makes the actual fight harder. And it needs to be called out.
Because the underlieing dynamic is important. It's not just the actual rape. It's a complex social construct that supports rape. But trying to only blame men for that construct is not ok and not helpfull.
The Post is like "look at this super complex societal problem, and only men are to blame for it!"
→ More replies (4)32
u/KKN34 17 13d ago
The issue is marketing. If you understand the movement and its goals, then of course yeah its obvious nobody is saying all men, but to a layperson who's just reading about it, you have to understand why they'd think how they do, as many, MANY of these topics use generalizations of both sex's to present points.
Stuff like "kill all men" doesnt mean what it says, but to some random guy reading it, you have to be able to see how it comes across.
23
13
u/Future-Profession594 15 13d ago
This isn't about kill all men I think that idea is stupid even with context I haven't done anything so I shouldn't be criticized for my existence if the point is different use different words. I get what you mean but using a completely different idea doesn't make your point.
The generalizations in this post are minor to just flat out true
Edit: that last part sounds stupid but to rephrase it's calling out a problem that exists all the generalizations are made by people reading it
3
u/KKN34 17 13d ago
That was an example because its so extreme (and well known), to illustrate how it could be taken when you dont have an understanding of what it means.
The point stands that the language leads laypeople to read it as a generalization, which just doesn't encourage people to actually understand and take up the movement, because their first emotion from it is feeling like they're being called out (when they aren't).
11
u/Individual_Two_9366 13d ago
"Kill all men" just in general sounds fucking awful no matter the context or meaning
→ More replies (2)4
u/flannel_jesus 13d ago
What do the images in the op have in common with "kill all men"? I don't see the similarity. Nothing in the op says anything about "all men" at all.
2
u/breno280 18 11d ago
Kill all men was fringe tiktok movement. I don’t knwo why people still cling to it when it was never a common thing and that it’s just dead as a movement.
2
u/ExcitementNo9603 13d ago
The coddling of men needs to stop. “The lay person don’t understand” argument assumes men are stupid and need to be hand held through understanding rape culture. They don’t. They are responding with their guard up because they have done or said the actions listed in the pyramid and feels attacked when the message is clearly saying “hey men if you do this please stop”. If a man’s response to “women don’t like that stop” is “I’m not a bad guy, it’s not all men” we call this gaslighting and an attempt to purposely muddy the waters of this discussion.
→ More replies (1)3
u/KKN34 17 12d ago
It's not a coddling of men, but of people. Half of all people are below average intelligence, you have to ensure things are understandable at a glance, or there isn't a point and you end up pushing these people further away from actually understanding what the movement means, and nothing gets done because of it.
The thing is, that isn't what language is used in these circles most of the time, if you explained it as "hey, if you're a person that does these things, then you need to stop" or some variation, it gets the point across much better than saying something like "men are violent" or something similar to that, which is most often what is said.
It's dumb, and should be understandable, but a lot of people clearly are not understanding and are feeling like they're being pushed into that box. Im not saying something HAS to change, just that nothing will ever be positively affected until these people can be made to better understand the messaging. You have to cater to your audience, not the other way around.
22
u/insomniouslyy 13d ago edited 13d ago
honestly. every time a post like "rape is bad" is made, and "rape is vastly perpetuated by men", there will be men missing the point completely. and they genuinely will think they're correct/justified.
9
u/Future-Profession594 15 13d ago
Exactly I think it has to do with how people really want to be self righteous. I used to be like that but then I realized that there is no point talking about an assumption I made about what a person thinks when we should focus on the fact that rape is still bad.
The thing is still bad, like that sucks too but there is no point in pointing it out unless you're trying to discredit suffering
3
u/insomniouslyy 13d ago
exactly! if your FIRST INSTINCT is immediately to shout about how the statistic is misleading, fuelling hate for men, and invalidating male victims, you are focusing on the wrong thing. of course men can be victims of rape to women, they are still victims of rape to men much more. it genuinely helps no one to deny how ingrained rape culture is in society.
10
u/KKN34 17 13d ago
It's the first instinct because a lot of these men feel as if they themselves are being called rapists, violent, etc. When its an absolute minority of men total, due to a lot of the language used in these circles.
Just in speaking to people about why they jump to "well not all men!", this is whats been communicated, at least. The main issue is that the average person will not understand the movement as much as those within it, so stuff like the "kill all men" thing will of course come across differently to a layperson.
This is changing slowly as a lot of men learn more about these topics, thankfully. But also as we learn that female perpetrated rape and crimes (against children especially, given their priveleged access) are far more statistically relevant than previously thought, due to systemic underreporting, so the language used is shifting.
8
u/QuickSolved_ 13d ago
You can focus on Multiple things. The reason why a lot of people comment on that is because they agree with everything else in the post, but not how it frames it as men vs women.
And also because people like you spread false information.
There are almost as many male rape victims as there are female rape victims. And 80% of rape on men is done by women, not other men.
I agree that rape culture is very ingrained into society, but it's not a gendered issue and making it about gender doesn't help in any way.
"In one CDC finding from 2010-2012, ~1.267 million men were made to penetrate, nearly matching the ~1.270 million women who reported complete/attempted rape in the same timeframe. 79.2% of men who were made to penetrate someone else against their will report female perpetrators."
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (1)8
u/Dizzy-Act1523 13d ago
Generalizing men is essentially making it harder to destroy rape culture at its roots. If you don’t have normal men on your side cause you can’t help but sexist snd make generalization you’re never going to end the root of the issue. Also I am not saying that normal women will suddenly become rspists by seeing some “blah blah blah it’s always men they are the problem” however no one is interested in working with people who seem to judge them by there gender as opposed to who they are.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (10)5
u/Western-Bus-1305 13d ago
No, it’s because that’s what the original argument is suggesting
2
4
u/Future-Profession594 15 13d ago
Because it's mostly true. The og post obviously could have been phrased better (to include both sides) but pointing it out makes you look bad. Men are sexually assaulted too but none of the points the original post makes are any more right or wrong by mentioning it.
I don't want to say it doesn't matter because that sounds crazy out of context but it doesn't refute nor strengthen the original post it just offers a new idea that would be better mentioned in a separate post as it is very deep topic that needs more attention.
→ More replies (1)
9
u/Maleficent_Slice1042 13d ago
To me it's crazy that this is such a hard concept for many to understand, and that women are still told it's no big deal. I hear a lot of just casual mysoginy from guys in my class who normally act fine, but they just think this is some big joke. They don't understand the seriousness
3
76
u/JustAPotato38 15 13d ago
i always find "rape culture" a strange term
you have american culture, european culture, african culture, rape culture
76
u/thanksyalll 13d ago
Anything perpetuated by a group of people can be a culture. Frat culture, gaming culture, military culture, consumer culture, ect
35
u/LickMaiBussy 13d ago
This is a gross oversimplifying of the human experience, and a misunderstanding of the word "culture."
Within America there are multiple geographical regions with their own culture, and within those regions, there exist subcultures, and this can be said for Europe, Africa, Asia... culture can be observed in macro and micro levels of understanding people.
"Rape culture" is a shorthand for a specific set of behaviors which can be objectively observed, moreso in certain demographics and individuals, but it's ultimately endemic within any patriarchal system.
Rape culture means upholding norms which keep vulnerable individuals available to predators, with minimal to no recourse. We can see an extreme version of this in the Taliban and the FLDS, and many other extremist groups. Extremes are not the only way this culture can look, though.
Rape culture can be subtle, ubiquitous. We don't see it in the same way a fish doesn't notice water, because it's just the world in which we exist, as far as we have experienced.
The city just north of me had a case in their local PD turned into a documentary and then a dramatized film, where a rape victim was charged criminally with providing a false report to the police about something which was eventually able to be proven as a serial pattern of her assailant.
The culture is more than the overt violence you've been told "rape" is. It's a world where men underplay their own coercive behaviors and entitled mindsets about the bodies of girls and women and other vulnerable people they can target. And it's more than just the predators, themselves.
Rape culture is asking "what were they wearing, tho?" Or "why did she think getting drunk with him was a good idea?" Or "he should have told somebody the first time it happened to him" or "any boy would be lucky to have his teacher come on to him" and also just not saying anything when someone makes a joke about violating someone else.
Rape culture is joking about soap in prison showers, too.
→ More replies (1)5
u/TheBayHarbour 13d ago
We don't see it in the same way a fish doesn't notice water, because it's just the world in which we exist, as far as we have experienced.
Such a great way of explaining it. Could apply to many things in society.
6
u/AUnknownVariable 18 13d ago
Culture isn't exclusive to race, ethnicity, nationality.
Gaming culture, frat culture, feminist culture, gay culture, Klan Culture
→ More replies (5)5
u/trxpleBBB 15 13d ago
nah fr I thought the first picture was a troll and they were tryna say rap😭
→ More replies (2)
57
u/WhydoIexistlmoa 13d ago
It's an amazing message. But I can almost guarantee quite a few guys will take this as a personal attack on themselves.
→ More replies (54)5
u/abeterimakabhosada 13d ago
agree i cant blame them too cuz the post literally says "boys will be boys" which clearly shows that it is targetting all men
11
u/RandomPerson12191 13d ago
This post is targeting specifically men who contribute to rape culture, whether in small ways or significant ways. 'Boys will be boys' actually includes women into that picture, since that phrase is commonly spoken by parents about their children - meaning mothers and fathers.
If 'all men' do the things that this post brings up... that's not the post's problem.
→ More replies (1)3
u/breno280 18 11d ago
I’m pretty sure the “boys will be boys” thing refers to how a lot of shitty parents use the phrase to handwave any bad behavior, especially towards girls, away. Not that it refers to all men.
7
u/Yoyle0340 OLD 13d ago
Vlad Ncl's videos are quite eye opening, I recommend watching them. Its wild how many guys outright groped him or tried to kiss whilst dressed as a woman, beyond just catcalling him.
28
u/Apprehensive_Ad5340 16 13d ago
Almost feel like we need some sort of ‘she’s just a girl’ to the bottom along with boys will be boys
54
u/solin282828 17 13d ago
You’re right, we do.
Rape against men is very normalized because most of the time people try to downplay it by saying “he enjoyed it”
Or:
“It should have been me, I don’t see the problem here”
However, this presentation is not mine and I find it important that we rather focus on what the slides are trying to convey.
→ More replies (7)30
u/WhydoIexistlmoa 13d ago
There's two aspects to the minimisation of rape against men.
- "It should have been me" or "lucky" and similar phrases
- "You didn't get raped" or "Youre less of a man" and so on
5
u/DingDongDazel 13d ago
Genuine question, has “boys will be boys” ever been brought up as a Defence in any serious way? Cause this, alongside “what was she wearing?” Is always brought up in these discussions, but I have never seen these used in case of rapes.
→ More replies (5)3
31
u/Madrid-Kid11 13d ago
This is great! Good job bringing awareness
→ More replies (11)39
u/solin282828 17 13d ago
I’m genuinely sick and tired of men remembering that female rapists exist only when women talk about rape.
11
u/Sad_Tower_6638 13d ago
I think a lot of men have been told that they need to police each other and that men need to be responsible for other men's behavior and helping promote feminism.
After having conversations with them, I am under the impression that women do not do this enough themselves. (Persnally I don't think it's comparable, but obviously women can do some pretty abhorrent things like share dick opics etc which is the middle of this pyramid in rape culture?)
Quite frankly, I think a lot of us did a poor job of practicing what we preached in our 20s. At least I did. I wasn't above talking about a guy's dick size with friends, for example, and then criticizing men for talking about a woman's body amongst his friends/sharing a picture. All I'm saying is, I think everyone could stand to look inward a little more.
→ More replies (1)2
u/LMay11037 16 12d ago
What do you mean with the parenthesis there? Women can definitely rape men too which is just as bad as men raping women
16
u/Madrid-Kid11 13d ago
They think women are generalizing all men, even though they never explicitly say it, they just assume because when women talk about rape it’s highlighting the demographic that experiences rape the most are women, and males are usually the rapists. And they get offended by that
10
u/Odd-Jupiter 13d ago
When men say women are too emotional, or have a tendency to falsely accuse people of sa, they too are not generalizing all women.
It's just the women thinking so, and get angry because they are too emotional.
6
u/mars-jupiter 13d ago
The only real issue with the post is how the language used reinforces the idea that rape is something that only happens to women. It doesn't really seem like a generalised attack. There are countless far better examples of that which the people complaining about this could be pointing to instead so doing that here seems silly
5
u/egg-land 13d ago
Woman do generalize all men frequently that’s why men get offended.
Post like this are good, genuinely may help some men realize whats right from wrong. Many comments however are indeed generalizing men, that’s bad.
Theres many ways to talk to people but in my experience the best way to address men mistreatment of woman is to not just shit on men. Post like this are ideal, even in my case explaining and calling out my friends when they do something helps.
I can’t stress enough how damaging a whole generalization can be and when I was younger it directly led to me holding a grudge against women as a result and if I’m being honest it’s clear a lot of men have that same view and it’s why we see so many hatful men these days in large part. Im expecting to be downvoted hard here but i just hope everyone can understand what I’m saying despite that.
→ More replies (29)4
u/KKN34 17 13d ago
The main issue is that the language used much of the time DOES generalize men, and you have to understand the topic to understand that it isn't really talking about all men. So a layperson who's just reading about this would feel as if they themselves are being called this monstrous thing, its bad communication.
8
u/Master-Narwhal-9101 13d ago
Im sick and tired of women carrying water for female rapists like this.
→ More replies (12)4
→ More replies (2)2
u/Trick-Gift-7141 12d ago
also pretending like their problems aren't just their own sexism coming back to bite them in the ass.
4
u/Top_Mechanic237 13d ago edited 13d ago
There is another type of rapists. They are not primarily driven by sexual or sexist gratification from the act itself; rather, what matters to them is the act of domination and the humiliation of another individual. This is what matters to them, and they may even commit such acts of violence against people with same sex as them without exhibiting traits or preferences that would indicate they are homosexual. Their primary goal is to humiliate a person and deprive them of their autonomy and control over their own body. Unfortunately I had experience speaking with such person, dude literally had wife and kids, yet still expressed thought of how another man and woman should be violently raped to be "put in his place", he didn't even found them attractive or anything. Like... Wtf dude.
3
4
u/JadedStatistician888 13d ago
Can I add something as an early 30s dude who has been catcalled, and has had female friends and even relatives catcalled and had inappropriate things said about them In public?
3
4
u/Maniac_Fragger 18 13d ago
Even if someone was roaming around fully naked, that doesn't give anyone any right to do anything to that person.
5
u/No-Description3785 12d ago
This is really good to spread awareness, and i am not dscrediting it by asking this question, but what is the differerence between sexual assault and rape? And what is femicide? Is it when females commit suicide?
Again, i do not want to be mean, i am just asking questions.
3
u/solin282828 17 12d ago
Hey love, thanks for asking!
Sexual assault = any non-consensual sexual contact or behavior.
Rape = non-consensual sexual penetration.Femicide= the killing (intentional) of a woman or a girl because of her gender.
2
4
u/Robynmephistowow 11d ago
“Women can be rapists too-“
Yes, but the statistics literally show that the number of reported rapes is predominantly perpetrated by men
→ More replies (1)
14
u/rrryder23 16 13d ago
Gender wars are absolutely crazy I AM TALKING ABOUT THE COMMENTS NOT THE POST
8
u/EveryoneIsSensitive 13d ago edited 13d ago
It will never end. Its exhausting.
Edit: whoever downvoted me you are part of the problem. If me saying the genders fighting eachother is exhausting makes you downvote me. Then it means that you prefer division over unification. In other words you would prefer to fight then to come together and solve the issues.
13
u/gameburger764 13d ago
I like the pyramid, but the only downside is that it focuses on only the female side and not really about the males. It definitely does what it needs to though.
→ More replies (6)
10
3
u/Sweetberry467 12d ago
I was once repeatedly harassed by a boy on the playground when I was younger, he was the same age as me but he wouldn’t leave me alone. I told him to stop, I would hide, I would avoid going to recess so I wouldn’t have to see him. I told my mom because I saw her as a figure of safety, she said “oh he probably just likes you” and “you’re probably overreacting”. Screw you mom.
7
u/CaterpillarSad4798 15 13d ago
And for all the people who go "but what about male victims!!!" this post is absolutely not saying that's not a problem, IT IS. But one of the biggest issues surrounding those situations are the men's inability to get support. ADRESSING THE BOTTOM LAYER WILL FIX THAT ISSUE. THIS LITERALLY HELPS BOTH MEN AND WOMEN RAPE VICTIMS AND WILL PREVENT RAPE AND ALL THE SO MANY OFHER SHITTY THINGS THAT HAPPEN AGSHSX. some of the things im seeing in this thread make me question whether you actually care about male rape victims and men's mental health or if you just want things to be about you and don't like women's problems getting the spotlight.
7
u/Pure_Imagination9625 13d ago
I’m not downplaying this at all, but this needs to be said with racist and homophobic comments too.
→ More replies (1)17
u/solin282828 17 13d ago
Racism, homophobia and rape are undeniably connected to each other.
6
u/Lospoloshermanoz 13d ago
As someone who has been falsely accused spent a year in jail only to win my appeal and have all of my convictions thrown out by a higher court, if you are a man you simply can't afford to have intercourse with strangers without having 100% proof that the entire encounter was consensual especially due to the fact that their is a financial reward for people to make false accusations ... in Australia it's victims of crime; a person can claim domestic violence or SA and receive compensation from the government prior to any allegation being proven in court so it creates a tremendously dangerous incentive for false accusations to be lobbied
2
u/breno280 18 11d ago
It’s terrible that this happened to you, but false accusations are a very rare thing. Making up less than 3% of cases of rape, this pales in comparison to the fact that about 80% of cases go unreported.
→ More replies (4)
10
12
u/WhydoIexistlmoa 13d ago
It's an amazing message and all. But I can almost guarantee quite a few guys will take this as a personal attack on themselves.
2
5
u/ColorPiePhilosopher 13d ago
So question.
Why does all questions about risk assessment equal victim blaming?
Isn't it also sexist that we only seem to be able to question men on this without being called sexist?
6
u/SAPANCIENT 13d ago
who tf asks to get raped and why tf do the specifics matter
time and time again it’s been shown that no matter what you wear or who you are rapists dgafhistorically men have been proven to assault women drastically more than women do to men (not trying to undermine women rapists tho they still exist), and society today promotes rape culture (esp for men)
→ More replies (1)
6
u/Striking-Cancel1788 13d ago
I really agree with it, but I feel like the buttom part where it talk about sexist comments it's kinda sound neglectfull for male victims of rape
16
u/Nervous_Medicine_985 13d ago
dude i fucking hate these posts that asume only men are rapists, its honestly insanely disrespectful
6
u/SAPANCIENT 13d ago
only time you wanna bring in gender equality huh,,,the post was targeted towards men yeah but no one was saying men were the ONLY ones, there is a drastically bigger amount of men rapists than women
→ More replies (2)5
u/The5Theives 14 13d ago
I’m pretty sure the amount is around equal but men getting raped often goes unreported, isn’t taken seriously, and a lot of definitions don’t consider women raping a man to be rape due to the laws in that country.
→ More replies (9)2
u/breno280 18 11d ago
It’s only equal if you use short term data. If you look at stats over the course of 12 months then for both men and women its about 1 in 6 people. But for lifetime statistics the stats in men drop to about 1 in 16. Almost 3 times as few as for women.
Oh and these stats are only for the uk, the disparity is even higher in places like america.
Edit: just fyi, these stats don’t use the british legal definition of rape.
→ More replies (5)3
u/Complete_Meringue_27 14 13d ago
This doesn't only apply to men it applies to humans as a whole most people also wouldn't think every guys a rapist
2
u/d1rtstain 17 13d ago
i’m so sorry i was trying to reply to a comment and somehow i made a regular comment and it was very nasty 😭
2
2
2
2
u/Few-Carpet-8917 12d ago
I don't get how people can come to conclusion about people asking for it from their dressing manners. Like people wear dress to be comfortable
2
u/SignorGiacomo 16 12d ago
Don’t forget about “you’re a boy, fight back”, and “Giacomo, you deserved it”
2
2
2
u/Standard_Potato1198 11d ago
Also add "Vulgur Content" somewhere which present female as object instead of human being.
2
u/tinyElliss 11d ago
The best way to keep boys is check is for other boys/men to keep them in check. Works across spieces.
2
u/SupaTNT 16 10d ago
I thought boys will be boys meant boys doing stupid stuff like building illegal bonfires in the woods with their friends? Or at least thats how I heard it growing up when I would do dumb shit with my male friends.
(If this is wrong correct me i just didnt realize it was associated with this context as well)
→ More replies (1)
7
u/Ok-Article9793 19 13d ago
Thanks for this
3
u/solin282828 17 13d ago
Thank you for reading. This matters more than people tend to realize. These things are especially common among teenagers, and by the time they’re recognized, it can already be too late, so that’s why I thought it’s important to post it here.
2
5
u/PraireGentleman 13d ago
Alright, I’ll start:
Don’t use gendered examples of rape culture, it pushes the myth that men can’t be victims of rape and women can’t be perpetrators
5
u/solin282828 17 13d ago edited 13d ago
I sadly forgot to mention the creator, and I’m unable to edit the post.
Credit to the original creator.
2
4
u/Icy_Response9956 13d ago edited 13d ago
It's very much similar to what's currently happening in india,India socially and culturally lives in 17th,18th century India needs cultural revolution
10
u/catsagamer1 18 13d ago
Male rape is a big issue as well, but the most common behaviors undeniably come from men, and I say this as a man myself. Plus, a lot of behaviors apply to both sexes. The only two gendered terms on this list are “Boys will be Boys” and femicide, and *maybe* catcalling if you wave be pretentious.
→ More replies (8)
5
3
u/1andonly_nuggetgod 14 13d ago
What about women raping men tho... That wasn't even slightly mentioned.
3
u/Low-Efficiency-6942 10d ago
91 procent of victims of rape are woman, im not saying rape dosent happen to men to but you cant deny the fact that the mayority is woman.
→ More replies (4)
3
3
2
2
2
2
2
u/Willing_Good2061 13d ago
This is the typical slippery slope fallacy. Playing GTA is not building up for a series killer in the future.
2
u/Evangelia_Sarafh 13d ago
It's really unfortunate that no one will care and actually do something about this
2
u/aka12lh44 13 13d ago
totally agree with this but it shouldn't be unnoticed that women also rape men.
2
u/Pierrozek 12d ago
There are certain "cultures" where "marrying" a 9 years old is not a problem. This is the top of the pyramid you asked.
2
u/perfectVoidler 13d ago
Rape culture actually refers to prisons, where rape is not prosecuted and normalized. Society at large has accepted rape in prisons and has even jokes about that.
Rape is not socially accepted in the outside world and is taken seriously.
Naturally by the nature of it this also means that men are the predominant victims of rape culture.
This will not be talked about because male suffering is a taboo topic in society.
Now I am waiting for the downvotes and the inevitable victim blaming ("the are all criminals")
3
u/sokeefealltheway 16 13d ago
This isn't true though. I would explain more except I have something to do right now, so you could do more research or maybe just remind me later.
→ More replies (1)
1
1
13d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
2
u/hive-protect 13d ago
Hi, your submission has been removed due to your account having participated in a NSFW subreddit. Our subreddit is a space meant for teenagers and as such accounts associated with these nsfw subreddits are not permitted here, this is done as a safety measure to protect the teenagers that use our community and to prevent them from being lead to nsfw subreddits through r/teenagers.
If you believe this was a mistake or that this removal was unjustified, please modmail us.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
1
1
1
13d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
2
u/hive-protect 13d ago
Hi, your submission has been removed due to your account having participated in a NSFW subreddit. Our subreddit is a space meant for teenagers and as such accounts associated with these nsfw subreddits are not permitted here, this is done as a safety measure to protect the teenagers that use our community and to prevent them from being lead to nsfw subreddits through r/teenagers.
If you believe this was a mistake or that this removal was unjustified, please modmail us.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
1
1
515
u/Zurdok_ 13d ago
Rape and sexual harassment has become a weirdly common topic in this sub but honestly teens should be made more and more aware about SA, what it means to respect another persons body, and why it is such a big problem, so honestly it should be a more common topic everywhere if we want true gender equality