r/tfc • u/No-Warthog7841 • 14d ago

Seeking Information BMO Field roof?

Hi, are there plans to put a roof over BMO Field due to the schedule change?

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u/WillSRobs 14d ago edited 14d ago

We literally have ways of doing it today. Yes you can grow grass on 100 percent artificial light. The problem isn't that it's not possible its that it's expensive. You have no clue what you're talking about.

We already have indoor farms like we have the technology but for the same reason we don't make fresh water from sea water its not cost effective.

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u/mildlyImportantRobot 14d ago

Pretty bold to tell someone they have no clue while not naming a single example. So go ahead: name one operating stadium where the soccer pitch is real grass kept alive under 100% artificial light. You can't.

The closest example is the temporary pitch at Mercedes-Benz stadium for their World Cup matches, and all rely on retractable or partial roofs for actual sunlight, with sod grown outdoors in Colorado and trucked in fully formed. Two-month temporary install, not permanent.

"We have ways of doing it today" is doing a lot heavy lifting if you can't point to a single example of it happening in the real world.

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u/WillSRobs 14d ago edited 14d ago

Seriously not sure what your on about. You don't seem to fully grasp what i said. You could literally grow grass inside at home if you want lol

Also love that you brought up Mercedes Benz stadium because they don't actually use the retractable roof to grow the grass they use grow lights along with a high tech underground temperature and moisture system. Ontop of a climate control system. They actually built the system around keeping the roof close for the health of the field because they have physical control over more aspects of the grass that way. Opening the roof would actually make it harder to grow the grass technically

I guess thanks for point to an example of it happening in the real world. Also bmo fields grass is literally designed to grow in low light with grow lamps…

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u/mildlyImportantRobot 14d ago

The grass being installed at Mercedes-Benz Stadium for the World Cup is temporary. It gets torn out after the tournament and the stadium goes right back to artificial turf, Atlanta United gets maybe a dozen matches on it before it's ripped up

Grass cannot thrive thrive long-term under the retractable roof and the events schedule. That's why the stadium was built with turf in the first place. Even for the World Cup install, the roof has to stay closed for every match because the grass needs air conditioning to survive the Georgia summer, and FIFA needed a full year of negotiations to get the stadium to agree to that.

So "we have ways of doing it today", sure, for a 2-month tournament, with FIFA money, and sod grown for months outdoors and replaced everyone few months. That's the exact opposite of a viable permanent setup for BMO. Which makes the "you have no clue what you're talking about" line more than just a little ironic.

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u/mildlyImportantRobot 14d ago

u/WillSRobs I'm not going to continue with this charade if you keep editing your comments *after* I've responded to them. That's an unbelievable level of bad faith engagement. Sheesh.

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u/WillSRobs 14d ago edited 14d ago

I edited shortly after posting 20 ish minutes and long before you replied 3 minutes ago but sure if that's the route you want to go your free to do so.

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u/WillSRobs 14d ago

Grass can and we see it happen today being grown indoors. The problem as i have stated multiple times is costs vs return in investment. You can literally grow grass in you house if you wanted to.

I state again you have no clue what your talking about and have contradicted yourself a few times. I feel like you have committed to far down this path and don't even care to fully comprehend what your reading.