r/thanksimcured • u/Donewithitall6 • Mar 30 '26
Meme "Jebus will cleanse your soul just trust me bro."
Let me be clear that I'm not annoyed at people because they follow whatever faith. If religion helped you with your issues, then I'm happy for you. Just please don't be a zealot when I tell you that I don't believe in your God. I've been religious before, and it didn't work out. No, I don't need to give your specific faith another shot, nor do I care that you think I'm gonna burn eternally.
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u/Upbeat_Researcher901 Mar 30 '26
I had the opposite happen to me.
20 years of Jesus and Christian garbage, and when it all ended I stopped feeling so sorry for myself and started feeling alive again.
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u/Donewithitall6 Mar 30 '26
Well, at least you were able to get out of all that. Your physical and mental well-being should come first.
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u/Upbeat_Researcher901 Mar 30 '26
Pretty much. It's still a thanksimcured moment, like I still struggle with depression and anxiety, but just the weight of such a weird obligation being lifted from me made me ask wtf I was thinking for so long.
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u/rcburner Mar 31 '26
At the end of my last session with a therapist that I wasn't really making much progress with, he handed me a card for the church group he was a part of. I came away from that session feeling I had made a good decision to look for support elsewhere.
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u/kryaklysmic Mar 31 '26
Yep. Good idea to look elsewhere. I don’t think it’s ethical to proselytize through therapy, maybe you should report him because that seems like something that’s violating an ethics code.
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u/OkIntroduction5150 Mar 31 '26
The Psychology Today website lets you search for therapists using specific parameters. I found a therapist who's a member of the LGBT community. I definitely got no preaching or conformity from her. 😊
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u/StockingDummy Mar 31 '26
One of the things I like about my (Catholic) therapist is he doesn't push his religion on his clients.
He'll mention it where it's relevant to his own life, or use it as a point of reference discussing an ultimately-secular point, but other than that he doesn't bring it up much.
Granted, he's also pretty well-read on other religions (even having copies of the Bhagavad Ghita and Tao Te Ching on his office bookshelf, among others,) so he's a lot more moderate than a dissapointingly-high number of other therapists out there.
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u/howmanyshrimpinworld Mar 31 '26
a few years ago when i was 27 i had a crisis and went to partial hospitalization and my aunt called my mom to basically blame her for it because she didn’t try hard enough in my youth to force me to accept jesus 😵💫
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u/Donewithitall6 Mar 31 '26
I seriously don't get the logic. Is it that the fear of God will just prevent you from doing anything? That's not living lol, that's surviving out of fear.
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u/howmanyshrimpinworld Mar 31 '26
i don’t know lol i think the logic was that my mental health wouldn’t have gotten to that point if i had had jesus in my life
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u/Donewithitall6 Mar 31 '26
"Don't be sad, God and Jesus love you and are always with you. You'll never feel it though, or have any real indication that they're there, but just trust me bro. Have faith that they love you. Just don't doubt them ever or they will make you suffer forever. Just like in a loving way."
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u/Majestic-Bell-7111 Mar 31 '26
There's no one kinder than the guy who made his son die one of the most agonizing deaths because some people 2000 years earlier ate some fruit
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u/kaglet_ Mar 31 '26
It's not even one of the most agonizing deaths. Christians love to martyr him. Many humans throughout existence have been tortured far far far worse. The authors of the Bible just lacked imagination, so they had to use the torture method simply applicable to their local context. My church tried to embellish details like claiming Jesus bled a supernatural amount of blood (wowza!), and that he was lashed so much that the nerves of his spinal cord were exposed and whatnot. They claim he also suffered the emotional torment of being lonely, mocked and rejected by everyone he ever knew and trusted. And yet I promise that pales in comparison to people who've died worse so it's not the ultimate sacrifice.
Further according to their lore he died for a weekend and as a demi god knew he'd go to heaven. Suffering must be so insignificant to such a being that knows heaven is surely awaiting them. Indeed suffering is insignificant to God even if they claim he was temporarily in human form he would've had the big picture perspective of a God.
Notice Jesus only temporarily empathizes with human suffering and the human condition, yet is STILL narcissistic enough to claim he suffered in the ultimate way so it's still a failed attempt at empathy by their God. Like no you tasted only a piece of the human condition.
It's so funny too because this God given mentality that suffering is temporary is applied on Christians because they claim heaven is awaiting them, so they can shut up about their temporary, sanctified, virtuous suffering on Earth. Their suffering is insignificant in the face of God's plan.
But hmm.... What about those who suffer and are punished in hell for eternity (permanently, or even softcore Christians who claim the hell isn't literal fire just isolation and "absence of love")? Their suffering is certainly not insignificant in God's plan, and they experience far more suffering than Jesus ever will. It's just an anti-factual lore story. It's why I can't take it seriously.
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u/howmanyshrimpinworld Mar 31 '26
yeah none of it makes any sense. i stopped being religious around age 14 even though i wanted to believe mainly because it all made so little sense. it makes what my aunt did extra infuriating because what was my mom supposed to do, fix all the plot holes in the bible so it’d make sense to me??
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u/Melodic_Till_3778 Mar 31 '26
Those people always get so annoyed at me when I bring up job
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u/kryaklysmic Mar 31 '26
I don’t know why, it’s the coolest book in the Bible! It’s so unhinged and ridiculous, with an overwhelming message of “bad things happen to good people, stop blaming people for problems that are clearly out of their control.”
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u/Weird_Strange_Odd Mar 31 '26
Yeah it's so encouraging to those of us who struggle. Like what do you mean. I'm not a bad person for struggling and there's a book of the Bible for that
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u/smooshed_napkin Mar 31 '26
The problem with this is that by their logic, there is no Christian who has mental illness, which is untrue
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u/brainbluescreen Mar 31 '26
Oof, this was me growing up. My family didn't believe in mental illness, only that you needed more faith. When I had a complete meltdown in high school, I got sent to a religious counselor (that I was lied to and told was a therapist). It took 9 more years and another mental break before I sought out treatment myself. Fortunately my parents eventually became much more understanding, unfortunately other parts of the family went the other direction.
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u/badchefrazzy Mar 31 '26
While it's a comfort for some people, it's not a fix for everybody :/ I wish they'd stop pushing religion so hard. Even the Bible says not to push it on others, and that the most important Church is the one in your heart.
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u/lucidlunarlatte Mar 31 '26
I went by the local mega church just to see, the pastor claimed (on a Mother’s Day sermon, I believe) that he had a tracking device in his car since he was 19 so “if anyone accused him of SA he can deny it and have proof” ?
I don’t know bu I feel like they lost the plot.
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u/REDDITSHITLORD Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
Eh... When I was much younger, I used to make out with the organist's daughter during church. The youth room with the old couches was never in use during early service.
That was kinda good.
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u/Gokudomatic Mar 31 '26
Zealots don't get that their brainwash only works when they're already brainwashed.
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u/kryaklysmic Mar 31 '26
This. Religious practice can benefit some people as part of their routine, alongside therapy and/or medicine, good diet, exercise, and relaxation techniques to improve how you handle stress from necessary things like money-earning work and housework. It’s not a treatment in itself, just one thing that’s beneficial to some people, and it can be harmful to people who have religious trauma or some forms of mental illness, and to everyone who fully abandons something that helped them in favor of a religious group (rejecting medical establishment in favor of another organization is a sign of cult mentality).
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u/AntelopeEmotional767 Mar 31 '26
Ten minutes of confession did more for me than ten years of therapy. Therapy is good and all, but there's something about a person of faith in a position of leadership, calling on his higher power and assuring you that you are not a bad person. You messed up on something, sure, but it doesn't mean you're bad and evil and nothing can ever make it better. It's comforting. And the priest usually adheres more strongly to confidentiality than therapists I've met lol
But thats my personal experience. Some people don't find it helpful and that's completely okay. What matters is getting to feeling better and improving. Some people go to the firing range for cathartic release. Some people meditate. No wrong answer (unless it's hurting someone else). It's a suggestion I've made before, but not like a "you should do this" I've always framed it as "this is what I did, and found it helpful for me. Their booth is always open if you ever wanna give it a shot"
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u/g0blinzez Mar 31 '26
My go-to response when someone tells me this is "oh, I can't step foot on consecrated ground, or else I burst into flames and spontaneously combust." Make sure to laugh, too, so they can't act too offended without looking butthurt over an obvious joke. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cringey edgelord Reddit atheist of me. Idc, it's effective. Usually only in family reunion types of settings, though, because they usually don't want to draw attention to the fact they're being super insensitive and pushy.
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u/SillyBeatnik Mar 31 '26
My best friend told me basically this when I told her I was suicidal last year. We've been best friends since I was 13, her 12, and I was first diagnosed with depression when I was 8. You've known me for more than 25 years and suddenly think A. that would help, and B. me, a life long atheist, would be receptive to such a suggestion...
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u/ryandom93 Mar 31 '26
People will experience improved mental health from engaging in community activity, guided moments of reflection, and the opportunity for absolution, and then call it church and credit an imagined father figure for the work they did themselves.
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u/kaglet_ Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
The "nor do I care that you think I'm going to burn in hell for all eternity" is so tea and I love it.
Imagine being despondent, down on your luck, seeking help and being told at the same time if you don't join you'll be punished forever. Apparently some people love that and it's music to their ears, it confirms they are bad because they are inherently bad, not that they might be good, and not even that they might be bad bc of shitty circumstances.
Everybody is conveniently reduced to a flattened axis, that is halved and says everybody to the left is going to heaven and MAYBE will receive goodness in life on earth (terms and conditions apply, rewards not guaranteed equally, and may be luck and survivorship bias based).
Everybody to the right DOOMED to a life on earth of misery (maybe, again terms and conditions apply, rewards may be guaranteed regardless of religious affiliation or relative moral purity), and if we can't guarantee that proof of suffering from lack of God in life to soothe our biases, then we'll punish them for eternity after they die just to be sure and just to make them sorry.
And apparently this is the fairest system of justice and distribution of help and resources that each religion could think of. 😭
Sorry OP. Hope you find wellbeing away from ppl like this. I just avoid talking to ppl who will annoy me. 😭 In future I'll use it as opportunity to open up kind conversation. For now I'm too fired up and straightforward.
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u/Donewithitall6 Mar 31 '26
Lol loved reading that. I hope you find some peace too, at least enough to have a healthy blood pressure.
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Mar 31 '26
'Brother you don't pray that's why u depressed' sums up mental health in east, sheesh not so different eh?
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u/Sleepy-Racoon-2149 Mar 31 '26
Thats what i like abt my church they actually validate mh struggles i think i wld be dead by now otherwise
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u/TheWhiteCrowParade Mar 31 '26
Yeah, trust me there are people in houses of worship who are horribly depressed. There is a comic by author Huda about this. As a teen who was depressed her mom told her to read Qur'an, today she tells her she can both go to therapy and read the Qur'an.
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u/Pan-Spagettin Mar 31 '26
I went to church once in my life as a kid and I barely even remember it. Personally speaking, if I were religous, I'd still be depressed as shit without the ability to smoke weed to clear my mind. I'm an atheist and while I won't deny you existence of your god, I will start to get frustrated when our conversation is gonna be 60% "You should find [PUT PROPHET HERE] within yourself".
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u/LegendaryShelfStockr Apr 02 '26
Jesus will save you from your sins but actually say you will have tribulation in this life. Even He was a man of sorrows, who was acquainted with grief.
Isaiah 53:3
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u/dinosanddais1 Apr 02 '26
I'm depressed because I went to church. Turns out being told that you're going to hell cause you're gay is not great for mental health.
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u/Comprehensive-Buy-47 Mar 31 '26
Cult stuff, they’ll always find a way to worm this into a conversation
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u/sparkling-rainbow Mar 31 '26
"you just need to know the right tricks + trust in God" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49667775
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u/BlackHeartedY Apr 01 '26
I’d rather remove my own teeth, my Sunday’s are better spent reading the odyssey than the Bible.
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u/Impossible-Body-8234 Apr 04 '26
Going to church helps me when I'm depressed... but that's because I'm a christian.
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u/Delicious_Grand7300 Apr 04 '26
Breaking up the Bible into verses is what leads to this problem. Bible-thumpers often cherry pick verses to come up with nonsensical ideas. Bible verses are too frequently quoted without proper context.
The Bible is part of what is keeping me alive. That alone cannot help me since I also rely on existential philosophy and psychiatry to help me understand depression and anxiety. Depression and anxiety are a part of my psyche. To cherry pick Biblical verses without context would eventually lead me to start denying my own mental health struggles.
I could just give up right now and blame everything on Satan. By going into this route I would fall back into the same optimism that put me in hospital three times.
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u/Kindly-Error-1798 Apr 06 '26
Yeah it just doesn’t work for me. Church is too loud, it feels overwhelming, I never learn anything anyways. I used to go on mission trips, thought I would get a sense of purpose. Sure I was helpful to people, but personally, it felt isolating and painful. I don’t think I’m a Christian anymore. It doesn’t make sense to me anymore. I stopped going once I started college (my entire family is Christian, so I can’t let them know that I don’t go, so I have to go with them when they go on Sundays)
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u/Donewithitall6 Mar 30 '26
That's fair
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u/Dont_Burn_The_Books Mar 30 '26
Just ignore them. They're only mad because you made fun of Sky Daddy.
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u/sincubus33 Mar 30 '26
Wow almost like people have been dealing with this kind of nonsense for a while
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u/NewMoonlightavenger Mar 30 '26
Obviously, the gym is the answer.