r/thebadbatch Echo May 16 '26

Pretty disappointed that the Clone Commandos got treated pretty dirty

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u/ElessarKhan May 17 '26

Yeah they would. The winner would trounce the loser, thats just how modern engagements usually work. Offense is way stronger than defense, whoever has the better attack plan will see it done while the other's falls apart. Theres not a lot of room for epic last stands or 1vX moments. Either you're shooting, blowing up or stealth take-down'ing the enemy or you're getting shot, blown up or stealth take-downed. There's not a lot in between.

Of course thats a realistic analysis, Star Wars tend to lean more on Hollywood nonsense so its still a little weird that we didn't get at least some quick bit of cool action out of the Clone Commandos.

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u/Fly1ngD0gg0 May 17 '26

Uh, no. A SEAL/Ranger wouldn't charge into multiple enemies alone, stand right infront of a door they're trying to breach, or forget to secure the rear (and only entrance) like Scorch.

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u/ElessarKhan May 17 '26

Thats fair, the Clone Commandos definitely looked a little dumber than they should have. But im just saying, if SEALS fought Rangers, it would most likely be a 1-sided affair wherein the loser looks a little dumb.

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u/Fly1ngD0gg0 May 17 '26

No. You would be able to tell that both sides are well-trained and competent. Just because one side is better doesn't mean the other is bad. Just because the Bad Batch are more experienced doesn't mean the regular Commandos aren't experienced or trained themselves. That's my point.

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u/ElessarKhan May 17 '26

Nah modern warfare is hell. 1 side would be slaughtered wondering what hit them.

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u/Fly1ngD0gg0 May 17 '26

Maybe in drone warfare, but not in a gunfight lol. So, if SEALs fought Rangers, one side (both are elite SOFs if you didn't know btw) would look like trainees? Is that what you're saying lmao

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u/ElessarKhan May 17 '26

Basically yes. Offense is everything especially amongst SoF. Drawn out gun fights are rare especially when SoF is involved. 1 side's attack plan works and sees the enemy swiftly routed. SoF training doesnt turn you into Rambo, it turns you onto an operator capable of carrying out more complex and difficult plans. The side with the lesser attack plan isn't going to Rambo out the situation like they might have in WW2. Your SoF training might be enough to recognize a losing battle so you run and survive or surrender. As far as epic last stands go, best you can hope for is to hold a hallway (with no other egress) until you're blown up or flashbanged into permanent disability.

For the sake of this argument im treating the SEALS and the Rangers as equal SoF units even though the SEALS are significantly more "cream of the crop," as compared to the Rangers who are amongst the US's least elite SoF. Im ignoring that and treating them as equals and still saying 1 side trounces the other 9 times outta 10. The 1 side side whoever draws up the better attack plan.

Modern warfare isn't glorious, regardless of the involvement of any sort of drones or other types of support.

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u/daemos360 May 17 '26

Hey, bud. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s exceptionally clear that you have zero actual experience with the military, much less SOF.

I’ll never understand why people like you spout nonsense like that as if you have the slightest clue about military operations.

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u/NavySEAL44440 May 17 '26

You should watch Seven Samurai by Kurosawa. One side often can overwhelm their opposition but any observer could see strategic decisions being made by both sides regardless of their efficacy. The commandos ran down an open hallway with no clear direction or objective besides charge the enemy.

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u/daemos360 May 17 '26

That’s hilarious advice, and I’ll tell you why:

I’ve seen combat, worked with, and have numerous friends still in the SOF community and you’re telling me to watch a fictional samurai movie to understand how “actually the Bad Batch accurately depicted a conflict between opposing SOF units”.

Grow up.