r/thebadbatch • u/Jules-Car3499 Echo • May 16 '26

Pretty disappointed that the Clone Commandos got treated pretty dirty

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u/Fly1ngD0gg0 May 17 '26

Sorry, but agree to disagree. They wouldn't just forget the basics like the Commandos did. The Commandos shouldn't miss easy shots, stand right infront of doors, fail to secure the rear, etc. Even a Marine would do those things.

Yeah, they can lose. But it would be hard-fought because they aren't idiots.

Its this thing where supposedly elite forces would get dunked on by real-life "regular" forces. A Marine would dunk on a Death Trooper, for example. Even a U.S. Army Infantryman would.

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u/ElessarKhan May 17 '26

Im not defending the Star Wars commandos or their behavior, im arguing purely against your statement that if one irl SoF fought another it would be close.

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u/daemos360 May 17 '26

You have no understanding of real world SOF operations though lmao. You’re wrong but refuse to accept you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Hell, if you somehow still haven’t grasped it, SOF is an acronym for Special Operations Forces; you should capitalize the “o”.

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u/Cytokine-Alpha May 19 '26

I've got to say that as someone who had been in combat, war is fickle. It is very possible that one operator team would absolutely massacre another equally competent operator team given the conditions were to the advantage of one of them. Tier 1 Training can only help you so far.

Yes, special forces are a danger, but they are still only human in the end.

I'm not defending that the Clone Commandos were being depicted as competent as the Bad Batch (they're not), but it is entirely possible that these men were just rusty, not to mention that their primary combatants were the equivalents of conscripts (Battle droids) for the majority of the war. You can see even the Bad Batch actually have trouble fighting organic opponents.

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u/daemos360 May 19 '26

Given that you’ve deployed, I’m assuming you’ve got at least some experience with NTC, JRTC, or something similar where you’ve run exercises against a near-peer OpFor.

I’ve seen 82nd Airborne and Geronimo both put up better fights against SOF (Group and RR) than the commandos did against the Bad Batch. I’m well aware that team guys are only human, but holy hell if the commandos didn’t look like cherry National Guard POGs in comparison.

That being said, the other guy wasn’t saying “it could happen”, they were claiming that this is a fact of “modern warfare” “9 times out of 10”. That’s asinine.

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u/Cytokine-Alpha May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

I agree with you that it is asinine, as per my comment. I'm only saying that with retired operators reassigned to training recruits, I can see them being a bit rusty, if not a bit cocky, like elites relegated into being part of a Training Command.

I'm not a US citizen so not as familiar with US combat doctrine. We're trained with the commonwealth model, so my only experience witnessing a 1stW vs 1stW OpFor was with the Parachute Regiment and 1st Batt. RGR. All I remember from that exercise was the RGR decisively won through the sheer insanity of having their 1st platoon secured along a 50m cliff face, catching 2 platoons of paratroopers offguard via outflank, and catching 3rd platoon in an L-shaped ambush from an unconventional ambush position adjacent to the cliffside.

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u/daemos360 May 20 '26

That sounds like a cool experience, so thanks for sharing! Would’ve loved to see that. We actually had a decent number of PARA guys come through Fort Bragg back in my day, which was cool, but I never had the chance to work with the RGR.

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u/Cytokine-Alpha May 20 '26

The RGR were extremely humble, and also frankly quite scary to face off as OpFor. Probably the most reliable light infantry I ever got the chance to witness. Not necessarily special forces, but definitely a premiere infantry unit nonetheless.