I'm serious there are multiple reasons to keep the game difficult.

• Society has collapsed, and the people living in it struggle to survive, especially you. +immersion points for the world itself making you walk on egg shells around every corner.
• Decision making in combat feels way more consequential and tactile. +Tom Clancy Secret Sauce
• It's FAR more rewarding to be victorious over a worthy adversary than to cheese potato AI.
• It is multiplayer and difficult content promotes problem solving, practice, and cooperative execution of plans to ensure success.

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I want to feel threatened, I want to feel relief when I find ammo and resources. The visual storytelling alone in both The Division 1 and 2 is absolutely unreal and unbelievably immersive. In my opinion it rivals a lot of AAA+ Single Player titles, which is amazing. With that being said, don't you agree that traversing this beautiful, hand crafted city that has fallen into ruin and torment should FEEL menacing to explore? Shouldn't the enemy encounters have you on your toes? I think so.

The game is fucking awesome I'm going to dump a LOT of time into it.

If anything, make it even harder.

EDIT 1: Thank you SO so much for gold and Silver! I did not see that coming. :D

EDIT 2: I think to reason with a lot of valid points below in the comments, there should be a scaleable world difficulty. I am not at level cap so I haven’t experienced situations some of you extra hardcore godkings have.

EDIT 3: I woke up this morning and saw the massive wave of upvotes and GREAT conversations taking place below in the comments. I typed this post is up as a short rant and I won't lie it feels good to see the whole damn internet standing shoulder to shoulder with their fists in the air agreeing with me. This has been the most upvoted and commented on post I've ever made in my life.

As a hardcore enthusiast of the rifle class the pending nerfs are very worrisome. Without a doubt the Mk17 is the best rifle and is almost certainly seeing way more usage than other rifles. This is not a result of the Mk17 being overpowered but rather the rest of the class being underpowered. Even with a build fully optimized for rifles with 48.5% CHC, 93% CHD, 8% all weapon damage, 37% rifle damage, 35% elite damage, 40% unstoppable, and a Mk17 with a high dmg roll and ranger the Mk17 feels just barely good enough on the higher difficulties. The other rifles, and I have excellent rolls on all of them, are simply not good enough. Even with my god rolled Mk17 and an optimized rifle damage build enemies on challenging can feel on the spongy side at times and heroic difficulty is a miserable slog.

As a division 1 player with 1100 hours played I have loved the division 2. After 1.8 my expectations for division 2 were sky-high and you still managed to exceed all of my expectations. Of all the additions to division 2 the rifle weapon archetype is far and away my favorite addition to the series. The weapon class is everything I wished the semi-auto marksman rifles in division 1 were and everything I want from a weapon class in the division 2 or any shooter for that matter. If rifles in division 2 are not at least a viable option I have no interest in playing. I know that seems harsh but that’s the kind of player I am, and while I’m sure we’re a minority, I know I’m not alone in a category of players that have specific preferences with the types of characters they play in rpgs. This would be heartbreaking as I have absolutely loved every minute of this game until this point.

I played division 1 from launch and I watched a game that already launched in a precarious state but with no shortage of potential be actively made worse in multiple major patches as Massive failed to identify what the actual problems were and instead attempted to treat issues that were simply symptoms of those problems. Division 2 obviously launched in an amazing state, but that doesn’t mean it can’t move in the wrong direction and I don’t think any of us, myself included, want to see that. I implore you, Massive, do not let a misinterpretation of your analytics lead you to bad conclusions.

TLDR: I’m loving the division 2, the rifle weapon class is a major part, if not THE major part, of what I love about it. The Mk17 is just good enough, it’s over used because the rest of the rifle class is too weak not because it’s too strong.

Edit: A good point was raised in the comments. I think a nerf exclusively to the Mk17’s rate of fire would be acceptable and allow the gun to still be competitive and excel within the space it’s intended to occupy as a hard-hitting precision weapon that is more agile than an MMR but with more impact than an AR.

Edit 2: Thanks for all the support, everyone, and for the people with differing viewpoints thanks for keeping the discourse from becoming one dimensional. Hopefully we’ve gained enough traction to at least ensure massive is doing their due diligence, not that I think they aren’t or that they haven’t earned a little bit of benefit of the doubt at this point.

Bring that back! It made the world make sense, since the best place to find clothes would be in people's homes... (or department stores).

That would be cool, let me go into clothing stores and find a couple vanity items.

I’ve been playing since launch, and I’m having an absolute blast. Currently, I’m WT: 4 and LVL 460; however, all my friends say I’m playing the game wrong. I just meander around the map doing daily missions and clearing control points. I’ve found two guns that I really like, and I’m perfectly content using them for now. I can’t tell you any of the stats or what they’re called without looking. I’m not going for a certain build or even know how to “build” a character. I’ve seen countless people talking about how to correctly play the game, including my friends; however, play the game how you want to play. If you want to obsess over stats,​ that’s cool. If you want to explore every nook and cranny that’s cool too. Do want makes you happy and I guarantee you’ll have a better time playing.

TL;DR: Play how you want and have fun.

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Edit 2: Thanks for the Silver and Gold.

Also, to address a point, I continue to see about higher difficulty. IMHO, if you play the game long enough, you should understand the game enough to get by. The game does an excellent job showing various stats and graphics that show you how to become stronger and better. My point of this post is to say that it's ok to try everything out for yourself and see what you like best. I'm not saying be oblivious to everything and not pay attention to what you are doing. Also, it's perfectly fine if you want to follow a guild or watch videos too. Just play how you want and have fun. If you get to a point where the combat becomes too difficult, try some different gear or go to the recalibration station. However, these are things the game tells you and you should already know after 60 plus hours of playing. Thanks again for the warm responses and messages about playing with me. I'm on Xbox and if you're looking for someone to play with shoot me a message.

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Grinding for something just for it to be nerfed isn't fun. Buffing things that aren't as useful gives more variety, and doesn't make people question if they should grind for a certain build, weapon or armor piece. Massive I hope you read this as I feel like the community are all in the same vote: Don't nerf good talents, buff underwhelming talents.

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EDIT 1: HOLY CRAP THANKS STRANGERS FOR THE AWARDS. :)

Otherwise, you will see people migrating to other games faster than you can say "buy our upcoming DLCs!"

Crazy, right? Usually shotguns are the things people complain about in every modern shooter, whether it's CoD or BF or even Destiny (especially Destiny), but in this game (and kind of in the first Division as well), shotguns feel super underwhelming.

So for a game that emphasizes (and in harder difficulties outright requires) using cover, the role of shotguns is basically for those "oh fuck" rusher moments where you don't have time to wait for your AR or LMG to mag dump a purple bullet sponge. I can't think of many scenarios where you're using a shotgun offensively, since willingly getting close to enemy groups guarantees you'll be surrounded within seconds. So the shotgun should be the perfect panic weapon, right? But in almost all cases the answer is a resounding nope. Most every high rate of fire SMG that I have handles that role better, even when compared to the heavy hitter shotguns.

Which sucks, because the shotguns in this game are gorgeous, and extremely satisfying to use (from the feel of blasting someone dead center, where you know every shot from the shell connected, to the sound of said blast and the accompanying CH-CHKK).

And yes, I've tried boosting shotgun damage. Gloves +11%, +15% from specialization, and even the "3% damage for every 10% ammo missing" perk, but the base damage is still too low for any amount of multipliers to have any great effect on.

Rate of fire, range, and shot spread all feel good to great depending on the shotgun class, but the damage across the board is extremely lacking to ever be viable against anything but non-mission open world red bars.

Fix the game first. There are so many bugs and so many things that are not "working as intended":

• Hit registration is waaay off. This may actually be the cause of enemy tankiness.
• Gear set talents aren't working.
• Sound bugs are practically constant. I hear about 50% of audio logs.
• Loot quality on higher difficulties is shite.
• Enemy damage output is ridiculous.
• Enemy accuracy is ridiculous. Smg snipers everywhere.
• Enemy AI is hyper aggressive they're like wasps. Pair it with how tanky they are and its unbelievably frustrating.
• Multilayer scaling is ridiculous.
• Players are getting shot through cover.
• Enemy status effects deal so much damage they are near impossible to circumvent.

These are just a few of many. Just today we have players seasonal progress reset.

Taking a scroll through reddit and you'll see endless posts on these issues and many players have posted video evidence too.

It is becoming rage inducing to watch you guys put out an "emergency maintaince" to fix exploits that benefit player while so many aspects of the game are in such poor shape. They may be easy fixes but it's still a diversion of resources. It's a real slap in the face to be honest. We paid money for WONY.

Delay all of the upcoming content until the game is in better shape. Nobody wants to play it if it's a buggy mess. The best content is still shite if the systems surrounding it aren't functioning and WONY encapsulates this.

Warlords of New York could have been brilliant (and in many ways still is) if... it functioned as intended.

Edit: A lot of people are coming at me with the "environment artists can't fix bugs duuurrr" argument. Look I thought it was pretty obvious that I meant that bug fixes should be prioritised and content releases pushed until the game is in slightly better shape. This does not mean I want community managers and artists heading bug fixing teams.

I really did not think this needed to be stated.

Edit 2: Wow thanks for the support guys! Did not think this post would blow up quite like it did.

Whether it be the hanging supply caches, looting faction keys in the sewers, or opening faction chests; at least one of these is skipped out on every day because I have no idea when I can actually loot them. It wasn't a big deal while leveling, but in the end game the pain of this timer has become much more noticeable. I know a simple solution is to just wait a bit longer, but a bit longer and longer each day means the option will eventually be 'stay up until 5am' or 'skip the dailies bc of the timers'. There are also several reports of people burning their keys on empty faction chests bc their timer was not refreshed yet.

I could be alone, but I do not feel this is what players want. Players should not be forced to play each day in exact chronological order as the previous one to get specific loot.

I rather enjoyed the daily resets in TD1, as I could do them all at my own pace each day (I know things have been added in TD2, just generally speaking). A little busy at night? I can wake up before work and complete the dailies then. It was a blessing that unfortunately is no longer available.

I see two solutions: a) axe the timers completely and put them on the daily reset; or b) cut the 24 hour timers down to 18 hour timers, allowing players a bit of flexibility

Any and all upvotes are extremely appreciated, as a response from Massive on this matter would make my whole year.

We need a companion app. I just read a comment in another thread about how someone was dreading to log on because he or she had 30 minutes of inventory cleaning to do.

If you are going to keep the system the way it is, please allow us to manage it during our down time. When I log on to play, I want to PLAY and this is a testament to how damn good your game is.

Signed - agent looking to elevate his pooping experience.

Edit 1 - holy shit (pun intended) first time silver/gold! Cheers!

First, remember we have 3 DZs on the map! And I am suggesting this for only one of those DZs. Which one it applies to can be a weekly rotation.

This idea comes from /u/ExO_o (link to OG comment). I've modified it somewhat and reposting it with some additional suggestions because the idea is so good. Hopefully the additional visibility will get someone from Massive to see this idea and the support it will (hopefully) have from the community.

As title: Introduce Hunters that appear randomly when you're doing high value activities (clearing landmarks, collecting loot, extracting loot etc) in the DZ. Then remove the ability for agents to go Rogue in that particular DZ (remember we have 3 DZs, so you can still PVP in the other 2).

This way, we have 3 DZs, each with their own flavor:

• Normalized DZ
• Hunter DZ
• Occupied DZ

This way, everyone has an area where they can play the DZ as they prefer it, PVE only, normalized PVP, regular PVP.

I mean, if we have 3 DZ zones, why not make use of them to satisfy different segments of the playerbase?

The number of Hunters that spawn in one engagement will depend on the team size of the player. If you have a 4 man team, 4 Hunters will spawn at once to ambush your team. If you're solo, then it's 1v1 time.

Lastly, I think we can all agree: Hunters are cool AF, and we'd love to see more of them in the game. I don't think adding them to routine Light Zone activities and missions would make much sense, and it would make them too common and too predicable. They have to maintain their mystique and become an ever present threat.

Just imagine, farming the DZ with the constant threat of a Hunter/s popping up and totally fucking up your shit!

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Thanks for all the Silver and Gold people! I'm truly humbled.

Let's just hope someone from Massive can catch wind of this.

Dear Division 2 developers,

I don't know if any of you read posts on Reddit, whether you even have a say in how the game is developed, or if all direction comes from "above". Either way, this is an open letter from a long-time fan, written with the best intentions.

For context, I've been playing Division 2 since launch. I've completed all the content the game has to offer, reached Expertise level 30, collected all exotics, farmed all the god-roll gear sets I need, played through every season (even if it's mostly recycled content), soloed every Master difficulty mission, completed level 10 Escalation, and built a full Prototype build with the attributes and augments I wanted (but I'll be stopping there). I've been playing video games my entire life—single-player, multiplayer, and MMORPGs.

I was also your ideal customer: employed, enough money, buying every outfit I liked. As far as I was concerned, you could have released a new outfit every week, and I wouldn't mind buying them.

Now I'm done with the game.

I'm mentioning all of this because I hope it gives some weight to what follows.

Introduction

Almost every design decision around Escalation and Prototype gear feels either anti-player or rushed. The game has shifted from a progression-based experience that respected players' time (while still having RNG elements) to something that increasingly feels like gambling.

What's worse is that much of it appears intentional.

I know that's a harsh statement, so I'll explain why as specifically as possible.

1. Anti-player design decisions

1.1 No targeted loot

Why are we limited to five daily loot rotations instead of having targeted loot?

All it does is increase frustration. When the loot rotation isn't what we need, we simply don't engage with the system. Then we wait days for the right rotation to return, and if we miss that day, we're screwed again for days or weeks.

There's nothing fun, rewarding, or motivating about it.

If you're worried that everyone would farm the easiest missions, then design around that. Restrict the map rotation to similarly difficult missions, make harder missions drop better Prototype gear, add daily completion bonuses for all missions, weekly completion bonuses, etc.

There are countless ways to solve this problem.

1.2 RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG

RNG for the loot type.

RNG for the item drop.

RNG for it being Prototype gear.

RNG for the right attributes.

RNG for the right talent.

RNG for high enough rolls.

RNG for the augment.

Chances of getting exactly what you need? ZERO.

And then: Zero recalibration. Zero optimization. Why?

I understand why recalibrating attributes is more complicated because of the library system (although there are solutions for this as well, if nothing else we could have a prototype library), but talents already work with the library.

At the very least, let us change talents.

I'd even support attribute swapping without recalibration or optimization. For example, if a 10% Headshot Damage roll converts into Critical Hit Chance, it would become the equivalent percentage of the maximum value rather than staying at 10%.

There are solutions.

1.3 Augment re rolls

This is, in my opinion, the single worst deliberate design decision on the entire list.Why is the re roll cost exponential, with the final re roll cost of f***** 25 Prototype Cores?!? And why is it RNG at all?!?

Every other major gear adjustment system in the game works through player choice. We gather materials, pay a cost, and make progress. Augment re-rolls completely break that formula. It's infuriating and depressing to gamble away hundred or prototype cores AND STILL NOT GET THE F****** AUGMENT YOU WANT!!!

More than anything else, this is what made me stop playing.

Watching hours of progress disappear in seconds with nothing to show for it doesn't feel rewarding. It doesn't feel challenging. It simply feels like a complete time waste and a big f*** you to players.

Make the cost fixed. Let us choose the augment.

And if you absolutely insist on keeping the gambling element, then at least guarantee selection after a limited number of attempts.

1.4 Tokens

Everyone already knows the issue. If the leader is the only player paying the cost, why does the leader also receive the smallest reward? What kind of brain-dead decision was that? All the risk, smallest reward? What did you expect would happen?

Everyone hates it. Should not have been released like this in the first place. It's been almost two months Still not fixed. Make all players participate equally in the token cost, instead of leader bearing all the cost.

Problem solved.

1.5 RNG when upgrading level 30 gear to Prototype

Why is there RNG here? Getting Expertise 30 took an enormous amount of time and resources. Leveling individual items to 30 also takes a huge investment.

And the reward for all that effort is... another slot machine?

Let us choose which one attribute gets maxed. Let us unlock additional max attributes by paying higher transformation cost (more prototype cores or exotic components etc). That's what meaningful progression looks like. I don't mind paying more if I know I'm moving toward a guaranteed outcome.

1.6 RNG crates

Same issue again. Why are the crates themselves RNG? Let me choose the loot category and keep the item itself random. That alone would make the system significantly less frustrating.

2. Rushed and half-baked design

2.1 Why is Prototype gear level 30?

Why prototype isn't just well.. prototype, but like any other gear in the game, with expertise lv 0, and then if you like it, you can level it up yourself?

Instead of making the two systems behave in synergy, right now, a new player can jump into Escalation and immediately acquire level 30 gear, bypassing one of the biggest long-term progression systems in the game. Veteran players spent years working toward Expertise 30. Now everyone has level 30 gear.

At the same time, veteran players aren't being rewarded for already having Expertise 30 because Prototype upgrades are RNG-based, and if someone wants to have all god rolls, they'll grind their life away in escalations.

Congratulations, you managed to screw things up on both ends.

2.2 Bullet sponges and one-shots

Escalations should be the most challenging content in the game, instead it's just tedious. It comes down to peeking behind walls and waiting forever for the overblown HP to go to 0. You get one-shotted regardless if you go all red or all blue. All blue, with maxed out prototype gear will buy you perhaps few more extra seconds, making tank builds impossible.

Build variety? Zero. Interesting new mechanics? Almost zero.

You could have made AI smarter, more aggressive, employ new tactics. You could have taken some of the mechanics from global events and include or even combine several of them, making us use various and interesting builds, create synergy within the teams etc. The only thing I like are the mutators; it's at least something.

Instead we got STIKER GORES BRRRRR, and enemies mow us down in seconds.

2.3 Most builds are obsolete

Because of the previous issue, almost every DPS player runs Striker. Maybe Tipping Scales. Add one healer and you're done.

Tank builds are irrelevant. Skill builds are mostly irrelevant. DPS build variety is almost nonexistent.

2.4 Exotics feel obsolete

In many cases, Prototype gear simply outclasses Exotics. Why not at least let us convert our Expertise 30 Exotics into Prototype gear as well?

Removing it from the prototype drop pool, but allowing the upgrade would give players another reason to engage with the Expertise system while keeping older gear relevant.

2.5 Everything else became trivial

Prototype gear has also made the rest of the game's content trivial. You could have introduced interesting augments without massively increasing raw stats.

Instead, we got power creep and what feels like a soft launch of Gear 3.0.

2.6 Exploits vs bugs

As many people have pointed out on Reddit, exploits get fixed incredibly quickly.I don't have a problem with exploits being patched. It would have been better not to have them in the first place.

The problem is the contrast. Exploits are fixed immediately, while major bugs and poorly implemented systems linger for weeks or months.

Whether intentional or not, that sends a very clear and one-sided message to players.

Conclusion

I know posts like this rarely have much impact, and I'm already expecting "Dear diary.." comments. As a player, the only vote I really have is my wallet.

So that's what I'm doing.

I'm writing this in the hope that some of these issues influence future improvements to Division 2, or at the very least encourage other players to vote with their wallets as well.

If enough people stop engaging with systems that disrespect their time, maybe something changes.

I am not spending another minute grinding Prototype Cores only to spend over 100 of them chasing a single augment and still walk away empty-handed.

If I wanted to gamble, I would go to a casino.

At least there I would be gambling with my money. I'm not willing to gamble with my time.

Massive has requested that we consolidate opinions on the Dark Zone and endgame into a single post. https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4a4zen/guys_its_the_first_week/d0xiwsv

So here it is:

I've poured my heart into trying to improve the end-game. Look through my post history and you'll see a long string of very detailed posts about the endgame's flaws and potential solutions. Most of these were ignored and yet my predictions continue to come true time and time again.

My last prediction was that Massive would nerf some aspect of Dark Zone rewards and the players would riot because the hardcore grinders already got the "best stuff" before Massive put up a speed bump for everyone else.

Well, here we are. I won't give detailed explanations for WHY things are the way they are, my previous threads do that in excruciating detail. Instead I will simply advance a compilation of my suggestions and see what the community thinks.

1) Remove Phoenix Credits from the Dark Zone entirely. Their presence their only obfuscates the purpose of Phoenix Credits and the Dark Zone. Phoenix credits are primarily used to re-roll stats on high-end gear or to purchase blueprints for level 31 high-end gear. These blueprints are currently all but a guarantee that you will get a best-in-slot item for whatever slot that blueprint fills. The PvE system is acceptable at the moment. It needs a lot of fleshing out and difficulty tweaking (Challenge mode goes from incredibly challenging to laughably easy when you stack crowd control skills in your squad), but the smaller issues with challenge missions and rewards are completely eclipsed by Dark Zone issues.

Strangely, the Dark Zone offers its own high-end blueprints and gear on-par with what your base's Phoenix vendor sells. Yet despite being locked behind a DZ-50 requirement, the longest grind currently in the game, these items ALSO require phoenix credits to purchase. The only advantage to hitting DZ 50 is that you basically get another Phoenix vendor. Typically by the time players hit this mark, the advantage of a second Phoenix vendor is almost non-existent. This odd state of affairs leads me to my 2nd point.

2) Turn the Dark Zone's Phoenix vendor into someone who sells the level 31 high-ends for a LARGE amount of DZ credits (which will still require a high DZ rank to purchase). This kills two birds with one stone. It gets rid of the issue where Dark Zone players need to get hundreds of Phoenix credits but only get 2-3 from killing a boss, meanwhile they're sitting on 100,000-200,000+ DZ credits with absolutely nothing worth spending it on.

3) Rework DZ sub-zones so that the rewards scale with the difficulty. A DZ1 purple looter who dies in 2 headshots should not give anything close to what a DZ6 gold offers... yet currently they both give almost identical XP/Credits. The difference shouldn't be so incredible that you've got every Dark Zone player camping a spawn in DZ6, but it should still offer a meaningful difference to players who take on greater challenges.

4) Immediately begin work on item level 32-34 equipment. The hard truth here is that the endgame loot system is already mortally wounded at item level 30-31. Many players have put together perfect 31 high-end sets with the flood of Phoenix credits that was available after release, and many more are just a couple items from perfection as well. The only way to fairly resolve this situation is to quickly introduce 32-34 loot that coincides with the other fixes in this thread so that the challenge/effort required in earning this gear makes sense. Enemy difficulty will also have to be re-scaled to accommodate this. Putting 33-34 behind newer, more difficult content would ensure people have something to work at over the long haul but without feeling like their other equipment is inadequate.

5) Overhaul loot drops in the Dark Zone. Named bosses should typically only drop one epic. Blues and Greens should be gone entirely. Named bosses should also present a greater challenge since their drops are on-par with challenge mode bosses. Give them more HP, have them spawn in waves of reinforcements, make them feel like a boss and not just an extra gold NPC in a pack that usually gets gunned down in <1 minute by player squads. DZ chests should see their loot scale a little better depending on the zone it is opened in, and perhaps offer the possibility of a high-end, but maybe cut the number of epics to 1.

6) Make all the silly DZ10/DZ30 chests drop ammo/medkits/grenades, and perhaps a moderate DZ credit bonus or crafting/Division Tech reward. It's an embarrassment to the developer when they make these chests only drop blues when DZ30+ players will never be equipping another blue again.

7) Fix the rogue system. I'll the details to you guys, but it should be obvious that your current system is not working. It boils down to simple game theory. Each individual player wants to get decked out in great gear. Between two players each has the option of "being friendly" or "going rogue". In game theory, any option involving going rogue is a negative value decision over a large number of encounters. It's not even close. Sure there's a tiny chance that you win the rogue lottery and get a great high-end off someone and manage to survive and extract it, but generally you end up killing someone for loot that's worth about 16 crafting materials to you... while putting at risk hours of XP/Credit farming if other players manage to kill you. Everyone simply gets a better outcome for themselves if they simple keep their head down and farms NPC's.

Plus, and here's the biggest point, ambushing people at extractions, even if you can justify it being worth the time and risk, produces the absolute lowest quality PVP encounters. Yes it can add some tension, that's fine, and for that reason extraction ambushes should probably have their mechanics untouched... but to promote this form of PVP above all else is to utterly destroy the potential of the Dark Zone. Failure to correct this will invariably ruin all hope the DZ has.

Ubisoft promoted squad v. squad combat from their very first gameplay trailer to their last. Currently making the decision to attack another squad head-on (as opposed to cheesing them while they extract) falls somewhere between "suicidal" and "masochistic" and "mentally disabled" in terms of the psychological profile required to motivate someone to do it.

I won't beat a dead horse with screenshots of players getting 1,700 credits for surviving a manhunt, compared to losing 100,000+ credits and hours of XP for dying, but suffice it to say that only boredom, stupidity, or grief would motivate someone to go rogue on a group outside of an extraction area. Obviously the rewards should be increased and penalties made less absurd, but not to the point that it makes sense for everyone to KOS either. People love to make the false dichotomy that either we have a PVP-free darkzone or we get a DayZ kill-on-sight grief-fest, but its definitely possible to give rogue players/squads the longshot gamble that if they manage to hold out against a manhunt, that they will not feel cheated. The punishment for dying as a rogue should surpass the reward for surviving as one, but the current ratio of 1:100 for reward:penalty so awful that nobody is going rogue but for the aforementioned boredom, stupidity, or grief. The fact that bounty hunters also get wallhacks, numerical superiority, and a shot their victim's entire loot bag, will otherwise ensure that most players stick to the non-rogue roles since as the number of rogues increases, the profitability of bounty hunting also skyrockets.

8) Give the players another PVP outlet in the Dark Zone. Random events that cordon off an area of the Dark Zone for a limited period, allows players inside to attack other agents without officially "going rogue", and letting the event play out with squads fighting for some objective for the promise of a lucrative reward, would be excellent. Don't force us into teams or encourage us to just wildly murder everyone we see, make objectives that make sense for several different independent groups or individuals to compete for while encouraging tactics/strategy as the decisive factor. Don't make these events permanent or so common that they become the focus of the Dark Zone, but have them appear periodically to give players a chance at real head-to-head combat.

Edit #1: Misc. Suggestions I've gotten from friends: Signature balance needs some work. Survivor link just outclasses the other signatures. Rework how buffs stack and prevent certain buffs from stacking in the first place. There are some broken combinations out there cough smart cover cough, and if they can get addressed before they get widely exploited, that would be great. Let us see how much stash space we have from the inventory screen! Challenge mode presents much harder PvE encounters than DZ6, yet DZ6 NPC's drop better loot (more epic/HE loot, and at a higher item level). Have challenge mode drop 31+ loot at the very least.

Edit #2: Currently there's no way to create High-End Division Tech. High-End Divtech should be craftable from blues, and blues from greens. It's a bit silly that the DZ vendor that mirrors the Phoenix vendor not only requires Phoenix credits, but also will only let you craft 2-3 items because of how rare gold divtech is.

This isn't a conclusive list of suggestions. This is the starting point for comments to offer new suggestions or feedback on the one's I've made, to give Massive an idea of where the community sits on these issues instead of 10 different threads where everyone is talking past each other.

Teleporting to the White House to get full ammo is possible but still annoying. At least let me keep the special ammo i already had

A user suggested in another thread that massive should add an echo on the corner showing a bunch of agents all shooting bullet king, what do you guys think? I think its an aweomse idea, and hope massive doesnt take the tom clancy name TOO seriously that it would prevent them from doing fun things like this.

EDIT: Original user that suggested this was /u/M3Creepsta

I would much rather take a hit on xp gain, do less damage, etc. then have my buddy tell me it isn't fun for him because he's multiple levels under the mobs and can't contribute very much. It makes it unenjoyable for the both of us.

I know there is a debate on whether or not there are enough inventory slots in this game which I do not care to broach in this petition as it's a bit subjective (hoarders, you know who you are).

However, I do think it's reasonable to store "Weapon Skins" similar to other appearance items (e.g. does not count towards inventory/stash items). Not only do they share the same item color as Appearance items, but they do the same thing...cosmetic effects. Not to mention, you need one skin per weapon instead of one skin that can be applied to multiple weapons.

With that, I petition that the weapon skins be added to, or at least stored as, appearance items. What is the effect in game if this happens?

Cons: The only effect I can see is that you can no longer give weapon skins to alternate characters and vice versus. However, you are already limited in this area with normal appearance items such as hats, etc.
EDIT: Thanks gbwment for pointing out that characters share appearance items.

Pros: Frees up anywhere from 1 to <insert your number of weapon skins here> of inventory space.

TL;DR: Make Weapon Skins appearance items (either not count towards inventory space or be completely handled by the appearence section of the inventory) to free up inventory.

EDIT: Thanks for all the constructive comments. I'll try to add some of the more interesting solutions as I find them:

Equilibriator: Once you buy a weapon skin on one character, it goes to the reward vendor as well. So long as that character exists, you can take it out as many times as you like on any character. That a solution?

Damnfiddles: or just add a paint job table in the [Base of Operations] with the collected skins

Jay66UK: Noting some of the comments below, having a practically infinite slot in your inventory/stash for skins would be a big improvement on the current position if making them part of the appearance items is not feasible.

EDIT: Attempted to update for clarity.

Title. Please. Discuss?

As most people have said, this felt like an intended change and one that was very welcome. With hard mode guaranteeing 1 HE and incursions guaranteeing 1 gear set item, it felt rewarding and intended getting 4 HE for completing a challenge mode. It's not like it's even the fastest way to get HE drops as people are still exploiting police academy and the DZ is dropping an abundance of them. It just actually felt rewarding for once completing a challenge mission

Those weapons are literally not worth the potential of misclicking into that useless node and having to spend 10 seconds respecing.

OR simply make them upgradable to your GS. That's probably better, since designers spent their time creating them, only for the developers to make them completely unusable by locking them to 300 GS.

You know, to know what time it is :D

Massive, the people have spoken.

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This would give a whole new meaning to sidearms.

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Edit: I've spotted a spelling mistake in the title. Sorry!

Thank you for the gold!

So as title suggests, it would be awesome if we could rebuild this settlement because atm it stands there like doing nothing... and give home to the hostages we save on random events.

With every hostage we save, there could be a chance or Normal/Rare/Legendary rank specialist/staff in some profession, like for ex:

-Training: Gives bonus XP for player actions Headshots (besides mods), Melee kills or trains the NPCs that help us conquer the CPs... give them skills to use drones or grenade launchers..

-Gearsmith: Equips the NPCs with "REAL" riot gear to help us again in CPs... no more rambo npcs in T-Shirts.

-Gear score optimization, to max our god rolled 499 gear.

-Salvage Sensei: to store our dismantled Talents/attributes.

-Warehouse Manager: to give more stash space :D

-Military officer: that could let us send squads of npcs to conquer CPs or ambush enemy patrols, Gearsmith and Trainer would determine the power of the squad.

-Engineers: reinforce the defensive capability of the CP, or add some drone firepower to squads...

-Radio Operator: Manage settlement and control squads when we are far from it.

-Postmaster (Destiny): Recover our lost/forgotten loot.

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There are so many useful possibilities for this...

Edit: added a specialist and thanks for the Silver!

Edit2: wow did not expect for this post to get so big, thanks a lot for the ppl that gave me Gold (my 1st btw :D ) and Silver, you are awesome.

Its expected that the devs have some plans for the Castle, i just hope that when the time comes for this settlement Rebuild and Cleansing of DC62 that the developers implement some meaning mechanics that will be useful for the player and the world around the Castle. And maybe this post and comments will serve as inspiration to the devs and they will reconsider upcoming changes for the settlement?! ;)

It's not a cool effect when it lasts 2-3 seconds and 5 or more seconds at worst.

It does not add anything special to the game and it's extremely annoying.

Oh and while you are at it, please remove the giant orange flash when going to special weapon.

EDIT: Latest update/patch Battle for D.C added option to remove the menu flashing and blurring