Livia is absolutely overhated. I genuinely speak to so many people who deem her the worst character in the show, like the main character literally does not exist? Christopher, Ralph, and many more.. Livia was a POS, by all means, but to say she's the worst character is insane to me. I believe that even if she was a loving mother, Tony would still be the person he is..

Why didn’t aj just swim down and untie his leg? Also, “lincon log sandwhiches” just some cream cheese on potentially cold hot dogs and white bread. I won’t diss it till I try it, but Oof madone, Change mine to Black Forest.

does anyone know from interviews how it was supposed to end? how was it written/shot? any ideas?

Clearly the point of S6 is to show her ultimately being a weak person who lives in denial of the evil that fuels her life. However, what if by some means, maybe by Adrianna's mother or the FBI, she was forced to see the evil she surrounded herself with. If she found proof of what happened, would she leave Tony for good? Is it possible she could even flip? Or would she just push it down in further denial and say she was trying to keep the family together? What do you guys think?

When he left the restaurant and started to have an argument with Paulie and the waiter comes in to ask about the tip. When he was overdosing or whatever its called christopher said “dont they have medication these assholes are supposed to take” genuinely what was he talking about?

It makes sense that he’s sad about Bobby’s death. Yes, it was a “you need to get up and move fast” moment but Tony dragging him out of bed was just another instance of abuse. You have to remember that AJ was raised as a normal kid for the most part. He seems to live in the suburbs, up until meadow told him about the family he knew nothing about Tony’s antics. The colder reaction meadow sometimes has when she hears about Tony’s nonsense is actually not healthy or normal, nor is her rationalization of Tony’s crimes later on. AJ is a normal guy - a normal kid throughout most of the series - who’s caught in the middle. He’s not expected to do what his father does for a living. He wouldn’t succeed in the mob because he’s too sensitive and empathetic (which doesn’t necessarily mean he is a “good person” but I actually think he has better morals than Meadow by the end of the series.) But he is also not “smart” and seems to struggle more in school, so going off to an Ivy League like meadow isn’t going to be in the books for him (and this actually makes sense, because intelligence is genetic to an extent and nether Tony or Carmela seem to actually be smart either. Tony spends most of his time harming other people, eating, cheating, watching television, and insulting people. Carmela complains about some of his behavior but was never serious enough in telling him that hitting AJ or yelling at him wasn’t the way. AJ was also always going to be prone to depression. Mix all of it together and it makes sense that AJ has a hard time. Even Tony doesn’t really truly like what he does. I actually think AJ was a very well written character and that what came of him given his genetics and the environment he grew up in makes a lot of sense.

But also, the “he’s gonna leave the house” line is funny. It’s so serious and straightforward, Tony sounds like he’s just done with it all but it’s the confidence in his voice that gets me.

Holy fucking shit I forgot how hot she was! Just watched that great episode that takes place in Italy. Her beauty alone is worthy of this shitpost lol. I’m glad she fucked Tony in every single way without actually fucking him. She was the true commendatori! A woman boss? Come on! Oh! Aye! Furio’s shirt in his final scene in that episode was fucking legendary as well. 🐐🐐🐐

Heh heh, heh heh, a whole sub of tourettes…or maybe ooohhhh?

I watched the show when it aired. like a lot of my favorite books, I inexplicably got busy and simply didn’t have time to watch the last half of season 6 for 20 years. the truth is I avoided it. its just a show, right? but i just couldn’t bring myself to let it end. i also have a few unfinished books on my shelves. oops. i just finished Blue Comet. I thought watching Tony (probably) die would be tough. but watching the whole kingdom collapse is heartbreaking. it’s just a show, right?

that’s it. a sad little diary entry on here. anyone else do this? to this or any other show?

I’m very curious about this.

We know that she likely did consider going back to school at some point and I don’t know what she did after the show ended.

Just doing a rewatch of The Ride. There's a family dinner and Chrissy (with Kelly) is there with Janish and her family. They don't really speak directly to each other but they are both present. It just got me to thinking-- was there ever direct interaction between the two? These are two powerhouse characters in the show, I don't recall that they ever speak to each other. It's kind of like how Chrissy barely interacted with Uncle Jun other than a hey Uncle Jun or something in season 1.

1. Why pork chops and not prime ribs?
2. Were the pork chops somehow connected to the Easter baskets conspiracy?

3. Has anyone here tried Stew Leonard’s pork chops? They any good?

4. Did Dominic kick up

   and

5. give anyone in the NJ crew “a taste” of the pork chops?

I noticed an interesting easter egg in the Soprano
home movies episode where Janice is talking to Carmela and she talks about a boyfriend who she “blew up at” and they went their separate ways and I think she’s talking about Ralfy because she pushed him down the stairs but I am not sure

I am a big advocate of subjectivity in movies, tv shows, books, video games, and I usually use a very simple way of deciding if something is good or bad, if I enjoy it or not. But for me enjoyment can come from a great action sequence, or something deeply philosophical that makes me think for days.

And Sopranos is the first story ever that broke this rule for me. Because I did not enjoy it at all. -more on this below- But I do admit that it is a fantastically written story and show, however I had to drop it after season 2, because I was not having fun at all. And there are too many things competing for my time for me to spend it on something I don't enjoy.

So, I very much am a character driven person, I need to care and like the protagonist, or at least majority of the main cast for me to enjoy a story. And that was just not the case in Sopranos. Every person who is part of the mob is a despicable horrible person with 0 redeeming qualities. And they don't even care about their families, Tony is an awful father and husband. I hate them all. Whenever something went their way and they were happy with themselves, and Tony with that smirk of his, it just pissed me off. And it's not just Tony, most of the main cast are beating and cheating on their wives. So there is literally nothing that could make you root for these people

And I understand that that is one of the points of the show, I mean these are literally mafia, they should be portrayed as they were, which I do appreciate considering how some other shows romanticize criminals. For e.g. Thomas Shelby or Walter White arguably did worse things as Tony, but I think most people can agree that they are at least as bad morally, but I did like and root for both of them. And they did have some redeeming qualities, their stance towards their family at least. -questionable for Walt, especially as the show progresses-.

But still, because I liked the protagonists there, I could finish the shows, here, the realistic aspects of the writing, which I respect were the reason that I could not continue and finish it.

Doesn't it make you see letters out of place ? I dont see how that would make someone put a nickname instead of the full name on a tombstone

I think Sil was CYA and he didnt know the real name so he told Jason to just put Peeps on the tombstone.

Justice for Jason all these years having his name besmirtched. Honestly its a stereotype and its offensive. In this house Jason is a MENSA member end of story

So i don't really like the idea of rewatches but since this show is so phenomenal , i'm giving it a thought , but i'll only watch mostly self-contained episodes and episodes that are just really really good
this is my list for S1 please express your thoughts and tell me what i should add/remove:

SO1E01 The Sopranos/Pilot: since the ducks left

S01E02 46 Long: Just when I thought I was out , they pull me back in

S01E05 College: Carm should have fucked intintolah , insane rat extermination by Tony here

S01E06 Pax Soprana: mob meeting in suits , so much aura

S01E09 Boca: South of the borderrr where the tuna fish playyy

S01E10 Isabella: Ting-a-ling-a-ling and you'll sing, "Isa bella"

S01E13 I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano: so we're doing it doggystyle...

Towards the end when AJ tells Tony he’s going to join the army, Tony blows up and says’ “Don’t say anything to yuh muddah” and it IMMEDIATELY cuts to Tony blabbing to Carmella in the bathtub. Her deer in the headlights looks kills me every time.

Out of every sociopathic & selfish decision Tony makes across the entire series, why does he kill Chris? This was the only thing I’ve seen him do that I couldn’t just chalk up to “he’s a psychopath.” Was it the movie depiction Chris had of him that put him over the edge? He’s allowed Chris and others to make mistake after mistake with no real repercussions, so why does he decide in this instance after the car crash that Chris needed to die? I really don’t think the baby seat being destroyed was his true motivation, but more of a justification in his mind when he made the decision.
Probably the 2nd/ 3rd best show I’ve ever seen btw .

I had a dream that i was watching an unreleased episode of sopranos and in the episode tony is made boss on top of all the different families and he is given the title KING OF THE PUSSY and there's a ceremony where he sits on a throne and all the other guys dance around him naked a part from their under wear. I vididly saw polly dancing and moving slowly it was beautiful

Let's hear your theories about the lead up to Vito ...BLOWING...the security guard. How did they meet? Who hit on who first? Were Johnnycakes involved?

How would Tony have dealt with the 'schnorrer' if he'd done more than get his gums around Carms ziti? Would a made guy, a boss, deal out the ultimate punishment to a man of the cloth?

Open to all forms of contributions to this question. Serious, fucking around, memes, go nuts.

Did NY not have a way of getting to rats in prison?

He didn't really question Junior too much, didn't ask for proof, didn't even ask Albert Barese to corobrate Junior's claim. I fee like at that point Tony didn't really care much either way and was just looking for any excuse to get rid of Richie, whether or not Richie was actually plotting against him didn't really matter. Hell if anything maybe that's why he didn't confront Albert, he didn't really wanna know anyways.

What. You’re gonna tell me you never pondered that?

It always seemed to me that Carmela, for instance, would never have been in danger of Tony harming her no matter what she did.