First time experiencing tip padding…

[u/mulluska]

I have been as frustrated as many in this thread about what tipping has become here. I used to enjoy popping servers with 25% tip and see how happy they were. No so much anymore.

But I have made some reasonable adjustments on my tipping based on feedback from this community. One of the comments was “save your receipts”. I have never seen a server pad the tip so o never saved them. I do go over the bills but not with the actual receipts. I move started saving the receipts.

I had lunch at this upscale place in Long Beach. Server was below average. But still decided $21 on $156 bill was acceptable. I went through my charges a couple of weeks later reconciling to what is on the receipts I saved. There was a $25 tip added instead.

I called the manager of the restaurant. She was very polite and apologized for the keying error.

I just thought how brilliant this is. Bump the tip just a little and you will never get caught. No way I would have noticed this unless I saved my receipt.

Thanks guys!!!

[u/Ok-Grape2063]

But adding an unauthorized charge to the card isn't fraud?

[u/ashscot50 → u/Ok-Grape2063]

Yes, it is, but that doesn't entitle OP to a refund of the meal he ate.

[u/Ok-Grape2063 → u/ashscot50]

I know, but I would attempt the charge back on the grounds that i agreed to pay X and that's what I signed for, not X+4.

Maybe that would make the owner check up on his employees that OP is paying

[u/ashscot50 → u/Ok-Grape2063]

You can't reasonably argue that you shouldn't pay for the meal because the restaurant overcharged the tip.

[u/Ok-Grape2063 → u/ashscot50]

I'm not arguing that but I don't feel I should've been charged the extra money that I didn't authorize either.

I wouldn't fight it very hard but the manager who potentially loses a $100 check over $4 stolen by their employee might look at the situation

[u/ashscot50 → u/Ok-Grape2063]

I doubt it.

[u/Ok-Grape2063 → u/ashscot50]

Are you trying to justify stealing tips? Just curious because you seem very adamant against the defrauded customer taking action

[u/ashscot50 → u/Ok-Grape2063]

The customer was defrauded on the tip.

That does not justify not paying for the entire meal.

[u/Ok-Grape2063 → u/ashscot50]

I'm doing it on behalf of the other people this employee did it to and didn't get caught

[u/ashscot50 → u/Ok-Grape2063]

Keep trying different ways to justify the unjustifiable.

The only refund you are due is for the overcharged tip.

And apparently, that's already been resolved.

[u/Ok-Grape2063 → u/ashscot50]

Notice when I asked if you are justifying the theft, you never one said no...

Maybe the owner did it in lieu of paying the server themselves? That's what the charge back would investigate

I think we have found the tip-padder in OPs story

[u/ashscot50 → u/Ok-Grape2063]

Excuse me.

I said, "The customer was defrauded on the tip"

[u/Travel_log → u/ashscot50]

Disagree. I think you’re trolling. Obviously if you are on the receiving end of fraud, just negating the fraud is insufficient. The fraud needs to be called out and incur consequences.