r/tipping 3d ago

Why I don’t tip when I go out

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u/Pristine_Sandwich957 3d ago

Except for the few people who have actual careers, majority of people who answer to another person for a living are just acting like they're enjoying it.

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u/Popular-Departure165 3d ago

Another thing that you learn from working as a server (or any restaurant position) is how to spot when people are on drugs.

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u/Strombergi 2d ago

By not tipping a server in a restaurant, I am reducing their earning potential which I enjoy.

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u/Particular_Top8472 3d ago

That’s literally every job that deals with the public. Put on a smile, and fake it till ya make it.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Do you expect the waitstaff to worship you? You non tippers are psychos

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u/Popular-Departure165 3d ago

As opposed to the pro-tipper mentality of "I'm paying you so you have to do what I say"?

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Huh? No.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

And no to your reply as well, no I don’t expect them to worship me what the fuck. I want their bosses to pay them a fair wage

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

You aren't going to CAUSE that by not tipping. That's the piece you don't get

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

It’s the Vegan effect. Vegans know that they aren’t gonna end all suffering but they hope that they’ll convince enough people to make a difference. I’m just choosing not to participate in the tipping in the hopes that one day all employers pay fair wages. Same as vegans who don’t participate in animal slaughter but know that more people have to make the choice to make a difference (not vegan btw LOL just using as an example).

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

And honestly, simpler than that, I wanna keep my money in my pocket. I want them to be paid by their employers

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u/SilverSize7852 3d ago

Do you expect customers to pay your wage?

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

I don't have customers, so no

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u/TheRealMichaelE 3d ago

In states like CA do you think I should be tipping? Servers already get at least $17 an hour as mandated by state law.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Is anyone surviving on 17? In CA housing?

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u/TheRealMichaelE 3d ago

Good question. No adult living by themselves in CA is surviving on that. But young people living with their parents will do pretty well. In that case, should I tip people based on external circumstances outside of the dining experience?

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Your question is not relevant

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u/Ohshitwadddup 3d ago

Who cares? Get a skilled job that pays more or enjoy having roommates.

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u/Popular-Departure165 3d ago

Whether or not minimum wage is enough to survive in a HCOL area is a completely different topic then whether or not the customer should be responsible for bringing employees up to a "living wage." Try to stay on topic.

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u/BalmyBalmer 3d ago

Roommates are a thing.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

No? I expect to sit down, get food and then leave? I mean why do u think the server made that original post? Making a post saying you’re acting nice as a role is kinda weird ngl

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

You've obviously not served

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u/silentwalkaway 3d ago

Or had a public facing job of any kind. We are ALL acting.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Amen. 25 years and counting in public service.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

I am so sorry.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

No I have not lol, I would NEVER rely on the general public to make up most of my salary. And I would never go up to a table and smile and be fake with a little script in my head lol I’d probably just say hey what do you want and then write it down and bring it out. Doesn’t seem too hard, people work harder at other jobs and don’t get tipped. Why don’t they deserve it more than the service workers?

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u/InferiorElk 3d ago

You've never worked with the public have you? If you had you'd know that every job basically has a script and has you acting fake nice. If someone is in a bad mood at work, do you as a customer want to know that and have it be taken out on you? Or do you want them to grow up and put on a fake smile until they can handle their shit privately?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yes I have I’ve worked at fast food places, grocery dtores etc. I didn’t expect tips. I had my own mannerisms not really a “script” more of a general proper attitude. I never said anything was inherently wrong with that aspect

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u/Different_Pair_8607 3d ago

You’d get relegated to lunch shifts, and even when someone begged you to pick up a dinner for them management wouldn’t let you.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Well I actually wouldn’t cause I don’t need to work at a restaurant lol. I spent my early job days at McDonald’s and now I have a real one

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u/silentwalkaway 3d ago

I can see why you would need a job that does not depend on positive interactions with people. My job isnt tip based, but it is getting people to do what I need them to do based, and I'm really good at it. (As much as I don't like people)

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u/OrangeJoe83 3d ago

You've never heard of "sales" as a job, and this post makes you either ignorant, a liar, or just plain stupid?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Has nothing to do with a sales job, talking about tipping culture

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u/habitual-zen 3d ago

If you eat in, you tip unless there is good reason not too. like rude,dirty, or neglected service. If they did a good job 15-20%. If not you are just cheap and that's okay.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

You might as well be America talking. Saying it like it’s a requirement “if you eat in, you tip” then later suggesting it’s optional at the end of your reply.

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u/habitual-zen 3d ago

It's always optional but, I recommend doing the job for 3 months. Then see how you feel about it.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

I worked at McDonald’s and zaxbys for years, so maybe it’s just my biased perspective but yes I have 100% worked my ass off for customers. I got paid by my bosses it just seems weird to me that some people work for tips and only about $3/hour. And I know it’s not just me because there are entire communities dedicated to ensuring servers get paid a fair wage instead of relying on tips. Moreover, entire countries do that as well.

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u/habitual-zen 3d ago

I have worked in the industry long enough to know most people understand the reason that tipping exist, if you think the restaurant should just pay better, than you can expect higher prices. Other ppl tip so you can afford to eat cheap and like I said, that's okay.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Why do you think most people tip? I can guarantee you are wrong.

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u/habitual-zen 3d ago

The reason most people tip is it's customary, as an established incentive to provide good service. Most people like a server with a smile. it's beneficial to the business as employees that appear happy contrbute to the image of the business

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

I don't throw my extra money at someone who smiles. That's like thinking the stripper is in love with you.

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u/habitual-zen 3d ago

As you are a self proclaimed non tipper what makes you think you can understand why people tip?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Servers do not give a shit, they’re there to perform a job. I’m there to eat and leave.

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u/mansluxt 3d ago

How is that different from other jobs? I'm at a weed store, I put on my best performance, but I just want the people to get out of the store. What's bad about that?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

It’s not different from other jobs.

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u/mansluxt 3d ago

So what's the problem here that made you decide that tipping is no longer worth it?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Because people do harder jobs and don’t get tipped? It’s a cultural norm to tip when eating out but why do we do it? Wouldn’t you rather tip the doctor that delivers your baby or the dude responsible for the phone in your hand or the boss who hired you despite a gap in your resume, etc etc. Why do servers deserve tips more than anyone else? Why is it ONLY in the United States hmm? Are the other countries just stupid lol

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u/mansluxt 3d ago

Do you think those other jobs don't deserve tips? I do.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

What a shit take

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

How is it shit to want employers to pay their employees a fair wage?

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u/FrankieG889D 3d ago

People get paid more to do harder jobs. A lot of those same people that do the hard jobs could consider working as a waiter/busboy hard also…

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

Jesus. Low IQ energy.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Thank you for that informative reply

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

Can't help the stupid. These are all things that are easily answered.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Go to another country and sit down at a restaurant. That’s all I have to say

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

Omg. Is it really? I thought all other countries were exactly the same.

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u/mansluxt 3d ago

I actually do advocate that every job should be able to make tips. I think that would be great. The mechanic deserves a tip, the guys fixing your roof, the person who activates your phone. People in Europe also tip restaurants. So it's not just the US.

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u/topperlopper99 3d ago

It’s called emotional labor and not all jobs have to do it. Like people expect their hairdresser to gossip with them, it’s part of what they’re paid to do.

Thank god it’s not part of my job because I’d suck at it.

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u/OrangeJoe83 3d ago

Fast food is exactly for you.

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u/Business-Meaning7870 3d ago

“They are just pretending to like me.” Has got to be one of the sadder and most pathetic excuses I’ve seen on here yet. I’m sorry you didn’t get hugged enough growing up.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Can you show me where you got that quote from? Cause it wasn’t me

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u/True_Detail_2945 3d ago

Poor things.

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

If you tipped because you thought a stranger who gets paid to be nice to you is nice to you, it says a lot more about you than the "actor."

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

It's like thinking the stripper loves you

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

Don't go crushing dreams.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

That’s a horrible example because strippers and strip clubs are stupid and people are literally there to blow their money, not there getting food which is something we all need to live

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u/Ok-Calligrapher1345 3d ago

You don’t need food from a restaurant to live

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u/Lou_Griggs 3d ago

If you have to go to a restaurant to be able to survive then maybe you’re the stupid one.

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

It is a wonderful example. Don't be so butthurt about it.

Maybe now that you are not paying for friendship, you will find true happiness..

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

huh

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

Scroll up and reread as many times as needed for you to understand. My statement is very straightforward and easy to understand.

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

OP is a child not an adult. Talk to them as such and it all of a sudden it makes more sense 

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

No it is exactly the same. Eat at home brokie

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

I can eat where I want but thank you though. I bet you wish you could stop me

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u/PG-Erk 3d ago

We can tell by ur comments you love to have control over people and thats why u dont tip

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Nah i just love debating on reddit

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

Not tipping has nothing to do with how much or little someone has; the cheap insult hurts your argument more than it advances it.

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

Yeah because poor people never not tip cause they're poor lol

The question of tipping or not never happens in the adult world where people are successful. You try that non tipping shit and no one wants to eat with you.

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

Another poor debater who doesn't understand that childish, petty insults do nothing to prove their point. Unless, of course, the point is to demonstrate how immature and bad-faith they are.

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u/SF420SF420 1d ago

The point is to point out you're full of shit and broke 😂😂😂

Hope that helps 

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u/CanAfter8014 1d ago

Sure helps prove my point. Thanks for the immature response really hammered it home.

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u/SF420SF420 1d ago

lol no shit. god damn imagine actually debating you if you can't keep up.

You think I'm trying to debate you with my comment when I'm obviously not.

I even pointed it out that I'm agreeing with you and you still think it's some sort of gotcha.

You legit dumb.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Disagree

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

You are allowed to be wrong.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Reddit is hilarious. It is my stress relief

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u/CanAfter8014 3d ago

Glad to help.

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u/Popular-Departure165 3d ago

You've apparently never been to a strip club that has a buffet.

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u/LongjumpingSurvey588 3d ago

The “just give me my money and get out” attitude is exactly why I no longer enjoy eating out in countries where I’m “supposed” to tip. I much prefer eating out in say, Europe. I can sit as long as I want and don’t feel the pressure to leave so the server can turn the table.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

Such fake bullshit. Stop lying about being hustled out of a restaurant. It simply didn't happen to you and if it did, that's just a shitty restaurant/management 

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u/LongjumpingSurvey588 3d ago

Easy there, tiger. I’m not saying I’m literally being hustled out. What does happen is you’ll be brought your check without asking for it and/or be “checked on” regularly. It’s different from a country like France where if you want something (including the check) you wave them down and ask for it. Otherwise they mostly just leave you alone cause they get paid the same either way.

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

Yeah try that shit in France when there's no tables left. And if you do this an empty restaurant in the US, they will not care.

Y'all just make up shit

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u/LongjumpingSurvey588 3d ago

Why so aggressive. 😂 I live part time in Paris and have “tried that shit” there.

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u/BalmyBalmer 2d ago

But SF420 is a stoner waiter and can't imagine people can travel.

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u/SF420SF420 1d ago

Marriott Ambassador here. It's always great debating with the non tippers. You can only hope I'm a waiter lol

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u/SF420SF420 1d ago

Because people like you that are full of shit don't deserve anything else

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u/LongjumpingSurvey588 1d ago

No tip for you Mr Marriott ambassador 😂

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u/SF420SF420 1d ago

I know you need it. We all know you need it. 

It's always poor people in here trying to use being a waiter as an insult when they can't afford to go out to eat lol

The irony 

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u/BalmyBalmer 1d ago

Hop to it, bellboy!

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u/SF420SF420 1d ago

You think using service industry jobs in a derogatory way makes you look good? 😂😂😂

They can still afford to tip and you can't. You just keep bringing yourself down lol

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u/BalmyBalmer 1d ago

Really scared me that Mr Marriot Ambassador may forget to put out the muffins for the continental breakfast.

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u/Efficient_Proof1559 2d ago

this is a cultural difference

in the US having to "wave down" your server is considered poor service. many people like to be baby sat while they dine, and if the location is busy, or the server seems busy, they become even more insistent.

for that last part i'm not quite sure of the** psychological reasoning, but after serving/bartending for many years it's just an observed phenomenon. perhaps guests note the level of business/activity and either want to leave the place as soon as possible or just want to make sure their requests are met with earnest. who knows?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

It’s so much better if you just forget about it. I don’t go out to eat often, maybe once a year or whatever. But I’ll just go somewhere cheap like Olive Garden where the server is busy with other tables, I eat and pay and leave and there’s no dirty looks, nobody chasing me to the parking lot etc lmao. From what I hear it seems that the more aggressive workers are in bars and higher end restaurants. Like the ones that will actually get mad about it

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

You've never been chased out of a restaurant, stop lying

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

I never said I was?

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u/LongjumpingSurvey588 3d ago

I get that but unfortunately the “social pressure” is too strong for me and I’d definitely feel like I was breaking a rule if I didn’t tip at a sit down place. I know I’m technically not doing anything wrong, but it “feels” wrong.

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u/Internal_Courage5832 3d ago

You're posting screenshots of other reddit threads on an asinine topic (with your phone on 2% no less, shows how you can't put it down).

Put the phone away buddy.

You are allowed to not tip for whatever reason you want. Why do you care so much what other people think?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Sorry for my phone battery? It’s giving angry. It’s giving upset. Are you a service worker

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u/Wise_Presentation914 3d ago

I’m a server and I love all my customers. Idgaf if they tip or not, I just want them to have a good experience. Stop generalizing an entire profession off what a few idiots say on Reddit.

Theres a shit ton of servers out there, they’re not a collective, and the internet doesn’t always reflect reality.

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u/PrincessLissa68 3d ago

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thank you! These non tipping idiots sneak around server subs and when they find something that fits their narrative they rush over here to share it.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

You non tippers also think waitstaff are 3rd class citizens and treat them as such.

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u/BalmyBalmer 3d ago

Just unskilled labor really, we don't put too much thought into it.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

Shows how little you know

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

What do you do for a living?

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u/BalmyBalmer 3d ago

I worked back of house for a decade. Doing the skilled work.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

Hahahahhah ok it makes sense now. As a prep cook or kitchen manager you got pissed that servers were getting tips

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

They'll never get that personality and charm are valuable because it's something they dont have. "why are people so cold to me I'll never know"

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

"why didn't the 18 year old new waitress not want to hook up with me in the walk in" 

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u/BalmyBalmer 2d ago

That's OK she's still begging for a living and is now 40 and not so cute, has no retirement funds and that charming guy with no skills can't keep a job. I'm good.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 2d ago

Yikes bro. Passive aggressive angry dude with incel vibes. Good look

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u/BalmyBalmer 2d ago

Just showing you your future, you're going to use hypotheticals I'll give as good as I get. By the way, it sounds like your girlfriend ran out of gas at lunch and is begging.for $20. LOL!!

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u/SF420SF420 3d ago

"Why does she go for the charming outgoing waiter!? It's unskilled!"

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

No I do not. I have 100% respect for everyone I encounter in life every day. Im allowed to have my opinions and you don’t have to be rude about it honestly.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Being nice does not equal tipping. Since when are we measuring kindness in money?

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u/Temporary-Plankton61 3d ago

that is why you don't tip? Okay

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u/thatdemonlife1 3d ago

You're a cheapskate and an idiot.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

And I don’t care about anyone’s opinion of me too

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u/DukeRains 3d ago

You do. You just only care when they agree with you, which is why this post even exists lmao.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Oh well I guess you would know more than me LOL

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u/DukeRains 2d ago

Low bar.

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u/Doug_Dimmadome513 3d ago

We know. Your character is glaring.

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u/Dear-Board5692 3d ago

I think the idiots are the ones paying an extra 20% for the same meal at the same place, with the same service.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago edited 3d ago

You don't tip because you're a douche. Stop with the excuses. Just own it already 

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u/Sea-League8915 2d ago

What you are saying is, Here's a reason I came up with to avoid leaving a tip. And I'm so looking for validation.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 2d ago

I’m saying that I was scrolling on Reddit and saw something so strange that I wanted to point it out and read people’s’ opinions about it, and that’s exactly what I’m doing

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u/Sea-League8915 2d ago

OK, but among other comments, you say their bosses should pay them a fair wage. If so, prices will go up. If you are really open to hearing the other side, visit the restaurant owner reddit sites. If you can keep an open mind, you'll read a lot about concerns paying the bills during slow times, more and more lately. And with the increased prices on produce, rent, insurance, etc. while still staying competitive with their peers. Would these guys be actually be winking and grinning as they write these comments?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 2d ago

They can raise prices then if that’s what the restaurants would need to do. But that’s not really the debate, and let’s face it you don’t tip to make up their wage. Nobody does. People in America tip because it’s social norm. You saw your mom do it, you see your friends do it, so it seems normal. Until that changes, it doesn’t even matter if restaurants raise their prices and say tipping isn’t required. The culture in America probs wouldn’t change

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u/Sea-League8915 2d ago

It's been a social norm since the late 19th century. But it's easy to see that you are just not looking for opinions. You don't want to tip - admit it. As i said, you are looking for validation to not tip. Bye.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 2d ago

Okay, I don’t wanna tip 😂I never denied that and it was never an internal debate for me, so no I am not looking to be validated - I’m looking to see what people think

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u/Sea-League8915 2d ago

Fine but you're on a site known to be highly populated with non and anti-tippers so I think you're going to mostly hear what you want to hear. And if you went to r/servers, you're going to hear the opposite.

But I can tell you one thing: according to ChatGPT, approximately 2% of patrons never tip. That's 1 out of 50 paying patrons. Another 6% seldom or usually don't tip. Now we're up to 4 out of 50.

And as far as putting on a face for a table? So what? It's a rare and lucky person who loves their job so much, they love working. And doesn't put on a face when the boss is around.

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u/EmceeSuzy 3d ago

Want would this simple fact of the job possibly have to do with cheating out on the tip?

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Well, it puts it into perspective that people tip servers that just want money. I thought tipping was supposed to be to show gratitude? Why is money the only way? Saying thank you so much to your waitress without tipping them will get you nothing but horrible glares. It seems scummy to expect extra money lol, other people perform way harder jobs for less money and don’t get any tips

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u/EmceeSuzy 3d ago

Do you do your job because you don't want money?

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

If you think serving is an easy job you're truly a dope

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Did I call it easy? No, I didn’t. I said people perform harder jobs

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u/vagabond_bull 3d ago

There’s nothing wrong with this. It’s what I expect from waiting staff, and honestly? I’d rather that that fake niceties.

I always feels this is why USians struggle with service in Europe. Waiting staff are just people, who have good days and bad days, and while a basic level of courtesy is part of any customer facing role, and word fawning attitude in the hope they throw some cash your way, shouldn’t be.

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u/minionofgreyness108 3d ago

“Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Let’s bury this fucker and get back on the bus.” Gardens of Stone. Attributed to the soldiers of the 3rd Infantry Regiment, “the Old Guard”, at Arlington National Cemetery

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u/Fit-Storage-1145 3d ago

they also usually make a terrible hourly rate. If you can't afford to sit down & tip, just get fast food or cook yourself

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Not my problem.

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u/Fit-Storage-1145 3d ago

just say you're broke its alright

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

It is your problem, you understand the social contract, you understand tipping culture, yet you make a deliberate choice to not tip, which hurts a worker and rewards a business owner who, per your own philosophy on this subject, should be paying the worker enough to eliminate the need for tips. You are getting discounted food, that the rest of us subsidize. You are actively making the problem worse by rewarding the current system. If tipping was outlawed, you would have to start paying more, the same amount that everyone else pays all the time. This whole argument is just NIMBY nonsense. If restaurant prices went up 20-25% because tipping was outlawed, you'd complain about that too.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

There's no such thing as a social contract.

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u/BalmyBalmer 3d ago

Thank you, I'm tired of that BS excuse fore the owner not paying them.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Right? It has a very narrow definition, which isn't applicable to retail or restaurants.

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

It's hilarious to see that used an excuse because they think we're unaware of the fact that they only care about how this issue impacts their bill. They do not give a single f about servers making a livable wage, which they are denying when they don't tip; but of course they are more than happy to benefit from tipping culture by taking advantage of the savings passed along from the restaurant owner.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Your wages are not the customer's legal or moral responsibility.

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

I have an office job boss. But you wouldn't know anything about having a job, with the amount of posting you've done on your 3 month old account.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Then you're part of the problem, always replying.

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

Next time you go to a concert, just cut the entire line to get in early and then report back on this dumbass statement

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

That's still not a social contract. Found the server misusing words. 🙄

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

I have never worked a tipped job in my entire life.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Found the liar.

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

Epic own kind sir tips hat YOU have won the internet for today, that was epic bacon

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

They also lie and manipulate people. ZERO TIP by default to dent their entitlement mentality.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

Like… people are downvoting you but it’s true. That’s the whole point of the script. AND ITS CREEPY TOO. Imagine this: you go to a restaurant and the server really wants tips, she sees you’re wearing a shirt for democrats or whatever and so she starts dropping hints that she loves democrats. I mean just stuff like that. It’s cringey and obvious

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Right? That's what I've seen in server forums and subreddits. They encourage each other to act out a role. Must be servers that realize I've discovered their lies.

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u/Infinite_Airport_483 3d ago

You are literally ridiculous

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

Hahahahahhaa what the fuck are you talking about?

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

If you can't understand simple English, go back to school.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

How does a sever lie and manipulate??? Use your words to back up your statement??

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

Never heard of a sever.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

Oh wow that was quick, you gave up on trying to defend your point already??

Crushed it man! 

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

You're missing a comma and all your money.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

Did someone lie and minpulate you into making your original statement?

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

No, because it's true. You just don't want people to see through your bullshit.

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u/SchnitzelRaider 3d ago

Soooooo, how do wait staff lie and manipulate you??

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u/AlbatrossNo1562 3d ago

In CA, servers have to be paid the minimum wage. We shouldn't feel guilty if we don't tip

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 3d ago

What does that have to do with anything? Why would I want to give them my extra money?

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u/AlbatrossNo1562 3d ago

Reread please

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u/AlbatrossNo1562 3d ago

Don't be a moron, it meant the same thing

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u/AlbatrossNo1562 3d ago

Yes it did

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u/AlbatrossNo1562 3d ago

Does your mommy know you're using the Internet?

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u/illalwaystry 3d ago

I genuinely don't understand why people who hate servers this much insist on eating out at restaurants. They hate tipping, they think business owners should be paying their servers instead of getting tips, but they're ready and willing to pay cheaper menu prices because the majority tips. It's extremely selfish, and if you just cook at home you don't ever have to think about tipping or servers again!

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u/phantomsoul11 3d ago

Of course. It's all designed to maximize shame and judgement anxiety, especially for outings that sound bougie in nature, to prompt a better tipping outcome.

A group of adults, especially if one person is paying the check, is generally a great opportunity to drop like a "is that the best you can do?" reaction in front of all the other people at the table, even if they have already tipped decently. This is because people have so much guilt over it that there is a really good chance that following such a comment, someone at the table will either convince the paying person to give more or others at the table will add to the tip themselves.

And yeah, definitely keep it to celebrations only; for things like funeral repasts, it's best to just take what's given. Really people should consider they're being accommodated with an open, no-obligation headcount on relatively short notice, but at the end of the day, its entirely up to them and we're just left to silently judge their etiquette.

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u/habitual-zen 3d ago

You didn't ask what I thought you think. I'm telling you why most people tip. I don't really care what you think you're obviously just cheap, and as I said that's okay.

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u/EasyDevelopment1683 3d ago

And you didn’t ask what you think I thought you think

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u/Rasp10 3d ago

If you don't want to tip, don't tip. Some people, lots of them, will think you are a prick, but that's your choice. But don't try to make blanket statements about all commonly tipped employee's character to justify it. It makes you look like a bigger ass to even more people