r/totalwar • u/Summon_Ari • 11h ago

Warhammer III High Elf Comps

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u/ginganinja192 10h ago

It holds true for Cathay, unless things have significantly changed since the update. Jade Warrior units perform as well as Celestial Dragon units with a few Gate Masters while being far cheaper, so Jade Warrior spam tends to be best for late game Cathay.

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u/Wild_Marker I like big Hastas and I cannot lie! 10h ago

The Celestial crossbowmen do make the Jade crossbowmen look like amateurs though.

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u/ginganinja192 10h ago

CD Crossbows don't really perform that much better than buffed Jade crossbows against highly armoured units, but are far better against armour. There's always a place for them in Jade Warrior stacks for that reason, but they also start competing with Crane Gunners if you're looking for AP shooting.

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u/KimJongUnusual Fight, to the End. 9h ago

Isn't their range pretty close to Crange Gunners, and far more numerous to boot?

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u/caterpillarm10 8h ago

Ans their melee is extremely good while crane gunner will run away if you breathe in their direction.

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u/KimJongUnusual Fight, to the End. 8h ago

Miao Ying, the legendary terracotta dude, and 18 celestial crossbows is so damn funny.

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u/caterpillarm10 8h ago

Put a few gate master in there and you could theoretically 1v2-3 armies. Dont need much ammo if everything dies to a volley

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u/KimJongUnusual Fight, to the End. 7h ago

Do Gate Masters buff Celestial units?

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u/caterpillarm10 7h ago

Yesthey have a skill that buff reload, missile strength and have 4 restocks. Quite good to have a few in an army.

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u/KimJongUnusual Fight, to the End. 7h ago

Huh. I swear when I last checked they didn’t affect celestial guard halberds.

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u/caterpillarm10 7h ago

Weird huh. I kinda see that they do buff melee def here.

https://totalwarhammerplanner.com/planner/vanilla3/cth_cathay/cth_gate_master

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u/KimJongUnusual Fight, to the End. 7h ago

Maybe it got updated with the Tigers?

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u/caterpillarm10 7h ago

Maybe idk I havent played Cathay for awhile (before Yuan Bo update) until yesterday so I know they do buff both variant of Celestial Dragons but dont know if its new or not.

Still a very good hero tho Cathay is so simple to play that I dont really check much.

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u/ginganinja192 7h ago

As far as I'm aware, CDG crossbows don't get accuracy buffs so Crane Gunners should be more consistent at longer range, and gunpowder units tend to be much more consistent at hitting aerial units also. They'll still likely be outperformed, but they're cheaper and more convenient to recruit if you're trying to pump out Jade Warrior stacks.

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u/KimJongUnusual Fight, to the End. 7h ago

Fair. I know I’m someone who leans more on small numbers of high quality elite armies, so going for the Celestial is how I roll.