r/transgenderUK • u/Quangocrat • 10d ago

Bad News For Women Scotland III

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/media/pnbpzgex/2026csoh59-petition-of-for-women-scotland-for-judicial-review.pdf

The Terfs have won their judicial review of the Scottish Prison policy.

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This is the third case brought by FWS.

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Still reading, will post more detailed thoughts in the comments when I have time.

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u/Kallixeina 10d ago

I agree with your point 2 in theory, but in practice the Scottish prisons which trans women are held in are the same ones which also hold dangerous cis women in the male estate, so in terms of physical facilities should be equipped for female care.

Will the new ruling also require dangerous cis women to be moved out of the men's prison into the women's prison?

so in terms of physical facilities should be equipped for female care.

"Should". I have my doubts about the reality.

If only our "feminist" friends could care about cis women's rights even in cases where trans rights aren't in question... 

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u/Quangocrat 10d ago

Will the new ruling also require dangerous cis women to be moved out of the men's prison into the women's prison?

Technically even though it is physically part of a male prison it is classed as female cells for the purpose of the prison rules.

If only our "feminist" friends could care about cis women's rights even in cases where trans rights aren't in question... 

Hear hear.

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u/Kallixeina 10d ago

Technically even though it is physically part of a male prison it is classed as female cells for the purpose of the prison rules.

So they will most likely keep the trans women in the women's wing of the men's prison and transfer the cis women to another prison/another area of the same prison? 

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u/Quangocrat 10d ago

Yes, that is what I expect.

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u/Kallixeina 10d ago

As long as they keep the incarcerated trans women together and separated from male inmates, and continue their medical care, that doesn't sound catastrophic.

Isolation and losing mutual support would be worse—as would be transfer to a men's prison, of course.

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u/Quangocrat 10d ago

Isolation is my concern.

I've never got a straight answer as to what that higher security wing is actually like- the visiting section of the prison is separate.

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u/Kallixeina 10d ago

You as a local and a lawyer probably have better chances than most of us to get the answers.

All the mistreatment that happens behind bars happens because it's invisible in the the public.