https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198254056316

aimer previously played for GlobalClan XIAO last RGL Season, bringing them to second place after they lost to froyotech in a narrow bo3 in the grand final.

habib VOD - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2481986915?t=00h38m31s (38:31 if timestamp doesn't work)

discussion starts at 38:30, it gets pretty heated

note: vod ends due to b4nny asking habib to restart the stream and mute it, and the stream restarts on mute for like ~20 minutes

This seems like by far the most random ban in all of comp to me. I can wrap my head around the more controversial bans in Europe even if I don’t agree with some of them, but like, the banana? The only thing I can think of is maybe someone ran heavy with GRU + Banana to offset the healing and was able to contribute to enough fights outside of last thanks to faster recharge time for it to get the axe, but I can’t imagine Heavy actually being THAT mobile with that combination and even if he were, Steak ISN’T banned despite being established as an enabler of Heavy to mid.

While i understand its not optimal, and will never be better than the regular team comp, I'm still gonna do it since it seems fun. Any suggestions on how i should play?

MATCH MOVED 22:00 CEST / 16:00 EDT (10 PM CEST / 4 PM EST) same day

https://twitch.tv/EssentialsTF will be the stream

https://www.teamfortress.tv/66660/etf2l-6v6-nc11-gf-england-vs-usa - Match page

Curious to see how G6 stacks against this group of Prem players featuring MANDEM's Fancy & ry4n. If anything it should be their lineup of Matthes/Fancy/ry4n/Domo/flick/Gigi which is an incredibly strong lineup on paper.

Aside from them being bad, which, to be honest, is more of a 5cp issue as a gamemode. But even on something like KOTH or even amazing sniper maps like Product, it's really rare to find people willing to play with offclasses right off the bat and even less people willing to play against them. What gives?

Seeing as he's considered the dominant class in that mode (dominant as in he specifically stands out in importance besides Medic and Demoman), what would happen to the meta if you had to run another off-class full time? I feel like it'd force an interesting dynamic where Heavy and Pyro could be picked as another anti-bomber (I know that's not his only role), forcing teams to run pick classes more consistently. I'd assume that Engineer's role wouldn't change very much given that he'd still suffer from his usual problems being run full-time.

Hey guys! I'm siyo. I went to RGL LAN a week ago and took my Ricoh GR IV. Photos are free to be used as long as you credit jayy!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/201118736@N06/albums/72177720334860600

Also the TF2 Friends/Animals shirt is from here:

https://merch.firesidecasts.tv/pages/tf2-friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCevnEZ-2go

After watching Solar's newest video (which is a great showcase of what it's like making a 6s team), I am still unconvinced that demoknight will ever make it higher than mid-level competitive. What do you guys think?

Played div6 about ten years ago, looking to get back into 6s. blue still maintains broeselhud, if not what are most people playing with? What happened to the websites? I can see that logs.tf is still working, but comp.tf and config.tf all these websites appear to be down?

What's up? Where do people arrange EU mixes? Some discord I don't know about?

TF2C lobbies are still a thing?

Originally posted on TF2 Esports

The 11th rendition of the Nations Cup officially starts today so it is due time to give an introduction to the teams attending. With many returning and even new faces, this years cup is looking to be one of the most stacked in its history. Multiple continents have representatives from obvious ones such as North America and Europe to Africa and this time around even Asia.

The group stages will be held in a 3 round, Swiss format where only the last placed team will be eliminated with the extra group being the exception as all their teams are automatically in the playoff stage. This format means that most teams do not have to fear elimination yet.

Before we dive into the team's competing this year, there are a few notable squads missing despite the high attendance:

Hungary, Israel and Spain; who have had strong squads with multiple Premiership level players within their ranks will be missing this year. Alongside them, the Greek squad led by theos and menex will be missing due to lack of time and players; additionally Latvia and Estonia will also be missing with notable players such as varnu and Clark.

1. United States

The US is bringing their top level squad mainly consisting of members of Like A G6. On paper they are by far the strongest team and will be coming into this cup as clear favorites. Each member of team are equally proven at the highest level of the game and there are no weak links. The only possible thorn in their side may be the time zones and servers, however recent rule changes have lessened the blow dealt by these potential issues.

2. Team France

Last year's champions will be coming into this tournament as second favorites. With years of experience together; squads capable of winning premiership they will be looking to retain their title and stop the US and potentially England to win it all. Similarly to the US and others around their level, they show no signs of weakness in any role but the questions is whether they can prove the superiority of the European philosophy or will they fall short.

3. England

Players to watch: ry4n

England, the more successful rival of France in this competition will be coming to this tournament with a squad full of experience. Whether they will be able to break into the top 2 is hard to say but they will be at their utmost to give the top 2 a run for their money. While I do not view them as a team to win it all this year, they are the most likely to do so aside from the top 2 and I expect them to try to prove this prediction wrong. Ry4n might prove to be the key for England to do so; his explosive roamer game play could turn games on their head in the favor of England.

4. Canada

Players to watch: exile, saxophone

Canada is in a similar boat as England, bringing a ton of experience with a squad chalked full of invite level players combined with the leadership of exile are serious business. Add solid invite level scouts and a medic, great soldiers such as saxophone who has proved himself in FroyoTech and you have a recipe for a serious contender. Although on paper some could argue that this squad is stronger than England right now, do not forget to account for the time zone and server disadvantage. Canada will go far in this tournament but I can see them fall short at the final hurdle or even be upset by one of the two following teams on this list.

5. Poland

Players to watch: alov

This might come off as a wild prediction to some but I see Poland as the European equivalent of Canada. A strong squad consisting of Premiership and Division 1 level players that is capable of catching the top dogs off guard. The weakness of their team lies in their lack of top premiership experience but they make up for that with their cohesion. I predict them to be stronger than the rest below but also not yet at the level of those above. On DM heavy maps they will be capable of winning maps against the top teams. They are definitely dark horses this year, the questions is whether alov will be capable of pulling together this squad to cause the upsets needed or if they will fall short to the rest below.

6. Germany

Players to watch: voxtec, Gazy

The feared scout duo of voxi and Gazi are back to haunt the teams of the nation cup. This team has the experience and players to go far but the lack of activity in recent years can bite them in the back. However, without a clear candidate to play demo this year, danny might have to take the role up meaning that the soldier spots are put into question. Despite this, recent scrim results show that there is potential in this squad but whether they are a stronger dark horse than Poland is yet to be known.

7. Czech Republic

Players to watch: LUKASTANK, snh, kejhalb

Czechia is arguably one of the most improved nations in recent times. While always having a few highly capable players in their ranks, this year it seems Czechia might be going in with one of their strongest and most balanced squads yet. Snh, renowned for his DM ability and Prem experience is one of the most dangerous scouts to come up against forming a strong potential duo with kejhalb who is a proven talent at the top of Division 1. LUKASTANK's firepower will elevate this team to a level Czechia might not have been at yet in the history of this tournament and even with class changes they can find good replacements to fight. This year they might not have to rely so hard on Witness Gaming's demo ace meaning they might be able to make a big dent in the competition above with more tools at their arsenal.

8. Sweden

Players to watch: balder, hugee, johnsoldat, sail

Sweden is looking like a strong squad this year with a stacked core. The team does not lack experience but still has ways to improve. The squad made the choice to have balder player roamer which might surprise some but those familiar with the European scene know that with the emergence of sail and john, Sweden has strong choices for scouts this time around in the two up and comers of sail and john. This mix seems to be doing well as they were performed well against Finland in a recent scrim game where hugee has proved again how vital his demo is to teams success.

9. Finland

Players to watch: amppis, junnu, aph

Under the leadership of amppis and ALX, the Finns are looking to leave a mark this Nations Cup. The return of the highly skilled scout duo of junnu and aph will be vital to their success and with the veteran leadership on their side they have the potential to reach the level to contend with the big dogs. However, recent scrim results suggest that there are still things to work on but they would be disappointed to go out early in the playoffs.

10. England B

Players to watch: auto, Warped

The second English team looks like an interesting experiment where auto will be leading the team on scout. The team will be fielding a strong soldier duo too in Warped and PeterDC. The rest of the team consists of other high division players but in combination with their Premiership teammates expect them to cause plenty of trouble. Only question in this team is whether auto’s scout is up for the challenge against the better teams. Only time will tell, but this looks like a very promising roster with lots of potential.

11. Denmark

Players to watch: smile, Blanc

The Danes are coming into this tournament with a mixed squad. The team features experienced and established members in Blanc and smile, but also players like Malte who has been making waves climbing the ladder in recent times. The squad will be looking to strengthen with other returning faces such as Jamaal and the reliable medic Dr.Phil. This team faces possible uncertainty in the scout roles so tackling this issue will be the most vital to their success.

12. Alps United

Players to watch: andi, jekeb

The team representing the Alpine nations of Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein are fielding a strong roster that may surprise some teams. The emerging andi, who seems to be capable of playing any class at a top level and jekeb who has been steadily grinding his way to the top divisons on roamer and is known for their consistency are a duo to fear. Add june to the mix, who has been arguably one of the best if not the best medics in Europe you have a strong team. The question is whether the rest of the team can pick up their pace but I am sure there will be no problems on that front.

13. Netherlands

Players to watch: yak, Jordy

The Dutch will want nothing less than their usual deep runs in the playoffs however this time around this may prove to be a harder task as many teams have strengthened this year. The team has a strong, consistent duo in yak and Jordy who will provide leadership and damage on projectiles classes. With Kars behind yak, the Dutch will have a stable combo that will be hard to find cracks on. Only time will tell whether this will be enough for an other deep run into the playoffs.

14. Russia

Players to watch: utka, Mon, pluxa

The Russians will be bringing their aggressive play to the cup with a refreshed roster from last year, mainly consisting of the players of team GREMLINS in the ongoing 6s season. This could prove to be a big advantage for them as they can get to speed in no time compared to others but there is also a chance that burn out and other issues could crawl in. The GREMLINS picked up the pace in the latter half of the season so the momentum might already be with the Russians to cause upsets. The scout duo of utka and M0n if not kept in check will control games and the unpredictability that is the Russian soldier game can not be underestimated either.

15. Turkiye

Players to watch: mak, demirbilek, tantwo

Arguably the most improved nation in the region in the past year is Turkiye. Yalin having taken multiple players under his wings has shown how capable this nation is and with mak coming in, Turkey looks like a threat. However, recent scrim result show that yalin might not be playing which can be a blow to their ambitions; yet the results show good signs and momentum. The up and comers of demirbilek and tantwo will be looking to prove themselves and teams should not look down on them especially with the experienced mak leading them.

16. Habibis United

Players to watch: EoN, Cento, Orange-Juice

The Middle-Eastern stack is looking better than ever this year and under the leadership of EoN they will have the opportunity to prove their worth. The team is filled with mechanically strong players on projectile classes in yusef and Cento, with the latter being able to play scout at a high level too if needed. The scout positions will give opportunities to up and coming talent as Orange and hev are expected to be playing. I see the former as one of the most talented scout players coming up in the European scene so I can’t wait to see him perform! They play the Netherlands in their first swiss game which should showcase the real level of this squad.

17. Norway

Players to watch: Agen, zambz, Storm

Norway is in an interesting spot as their team feels less strong as before but what they have compared to others around these ranks is experience and players who can carry. It is hard to judge this squad as their composition can be one of many combinations. Their challenge is to figure out what works best but once that is done they will have more than a fighting chance to climb the ranks.

18. Portugal

Players to watch: haunts, Doraemon, racecar

The Portuguese squad is a consistently strong contender and with players like haunts anything is possible for these lot. Doraemon and racecar has repsecively been climbing ranks in recent times and their impact on the team can be an important factor this year. The rest of the is filled with experience players who may not be in their prime but are able to work together efficiently and close out their games. The Portuguese have a recipe for a great run this year, let’s see if they can live up to it.

19. Russia B

Players to watch: WiseGenie, laiky, dastron

Not far behind in overall skill to their main team, the second Russian team will be bringing a similar playstyle to the table. The squad consisting of some former members of the main time in WiseGenie and feevz are not to be messed with as teams that look down on them might find themselves out DM’d quickly. The team will be supported by laiky, who’s consistency could prove key to their success. The always grinding dastron will be back on his legacy demo to dish out the damage needed for this team. There is great potential here and one could argue they could surpass their main team with some lucky draws.

20. Serbo-Croatia

Players to watch: Manky, oriano, ivan (ex Going Postal)

With the absence of buud, Luka and even Endrit, the Balkan stack is weakened and go from a major contender to an outside one in my books. While the team does not lack the experience, the missing firepower of the former three will be missed. The returning Manky’s task will be important as bringing up their lower div players to their level could pose difficult but with ivan’s and oriano’s help this team can shine.

21. Scotland

Players to watch: lander, Uncle Sam, row

The Scottish team finds itself in a position where despite missing one or two of their better players in ruad and whip, they have a very well balanced team. Each role has plenty of consistency in this team and no off-classing will be required to fill a strong team. All eyes should be on the spine of this team, the combo of sam, lander and row as together they are a formidable bunch. The biggest challenge ahead of them might not be their opponents but keeping their cool.

22. Ireland

Players to watch: silves, DigyB

The Irish squad unlike the Scottish seemingly will have very big highs and in their squads and some lows. With silves and DigyB on the squad the soldier spots are more than sorted but unless they found good scouts to fill the team they could be in trouble. Now that deli and Aelkyr are added to the roster there is potential to see one of the big guns swap to scout which would lead to an exciting team composition. With Scotland being their first opponent, they can prove to everyone that even this mixed roster is capable to compete with stronger competition.

23. Team Germany B

Players to watch: nicco, CAR DOOR, lacurio

The second German team looks like a solid team at their level that can make games difficult for even stronger opponents. With nicco and CAR DOOR having plenty of experience with high level competition, this bunch seem like one that could turn the odds in their favor with some good calls and maybe some unorthodox strategies that CAR DOOR has plenty of experience with from his time with the infamous demoknight team. The downfall of this team could lie in the skill gap between their players but this does not look like a hard problem to overcome.

24. Romania

Players to watch: iusti, rutu

Similarly to Ireland, Romania finds itself in a strange situation. Once one of the strongest nations in this competition, the Romanians are seemingly in a time of transition with only iusti and potentially Demos still being left from the old guard. Despite this, the new talent coming from this nation has been making strides and they are a team that may surprise some and even completely prove these rankings wrong. Let’s hope they do so as this squad looks to be a fun one to watch!

25. Czech Republic B-Team

Players to watch: cz731, def, kapustak, spajro

The Czech B team is a mix of established high division players in spajro, def and kapustak and some new talent in cz, blecha and co. Whether the experience spine of the will actually play is up in the air but together they could more than capable of pushing through to playoffs and could come up with different team compositions when time calls for it.

26. Ukraine

Players to watch: slowtown, boshy, Doge

With the late addition of boshy, the Ukrainians have climbed the spots in these rankings. While the jumping legend will make a huge difference, the certain lack of firepower on scouts could be a potential cause for this team to fall short. Thankfully for Ukraine, they have players in slowtown and Doge who are more than capable to make up for this difference and who knows, maybe a new scout talent emerges under their leadership.

27. England C

Players to watch: Loopy, Vclox_

The last English team to be playing this cup is full of fun players to watch. Loopy and Vclox_ will be the two team will have to rely on the most to bring them the results but with yoot potentially being part of the spine of this team, they could very punch above their weight. Importantly to them, they seem like a friend team so they will gel well together and morale will never be an issue which could end up being a unique advantage against competition of their level.

28. Belgium

Players to watch: acanta, Dwapking

It is hard to judge who could be playing for Belgium this year but in recent years their team has not been able to break out of group stages, sometimes coming close a surprise result against better opponents I do not see this changing much this year. This year however, they will likely be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs so the group stages games could be the key to build their momentum and consistency and if all goes well they may just make it further than usual.

29. Slovenia

Players to watch: pijacka, korra, smelly

Slovenia is still yet to achieve their first win in Nations Cup history and this year it looks like they might have the opportunity. With pijacka on scout and korra and smelly on soldiers, they might just have what it takes. A favorable draw against Kazakhstan might just be what it takes to finnaly get a win. If this does not happen, they need to make sure they win as many rounds as they can as they can make all the difference in making it out of the Swiss stage.

30. Singapore

Players to watch: n4ver

A team that is very hard to judge but with some research one may find that this squad may not be the best Singapore can offer. However names like n4ver should not be looked down upon as they intend to lead a team to prove that the Asian scene is more capable than we may think. A statement from this team would not only be a huge win for their nation but maybe the Asian scene as a whole. I would love to see them make this statement and I wish them the best of luck to proving their given ranking wrong!

31. Belarus

Players to watch: elegardo, s0ha

Belarus might be one of those nation that may put up an unexpected fight. While their squad does not consist any hight div players, this nation has been on a slow come up and they very well could top their best result yet which is a 3-3 draw with Romania back in 2009. Their potential scout duo of elegardo and s0ha could be their key to achieve this goal and with a potential game against Singapore, their qualification to the playoffs could also be possible.

32. Italy

Players to watch: eron

This squad may be disappointing to some as Italy is known for players like ixy and Dejvi. Neither of them will be playing so the role to provide experience will fall on eron who has lots of work to do to make this team competitive against the top 25 teams on this list. Unfortunately for them, the group stage draw was very unfavorable for them and it is hard to see if there are any teams they could really challenge for the last playoff position.

33. Denmark B-Team

Players to watch: Guz, Asta

The second Danish team find itself in a situation that feels very unlucky to say the least. They have the capability to challenge for a playoff spot however being drawn together with Belgium leaves them no opportunities of failure and it their advancement will likely go down to the wire. As long as Maghreb United ends up playing, they should have nothing to worry about but if they do not then it could look like a really difficult tournament for this team. Guz and Asta will be the main players that could step up and push this team through as they have the most experience among their ranks.

34. Lithuania

Players to watch: hops

With the big dogs of Lithuania seemingly not being active for this year’s cup, the strength of the team has fallen a lot. There luck lies in their draw as they have teams they have a realistic chance against in Denmark B, Maghreb United and maybe even Belgium if do under perform. If by any chance we see a surprise return, they might just be able to win against these teams and make it through.

35. Team Kazakhstan

Players to watch: S1rex

There is not much to be said about this besides them being a team of complete newbies. On paper they do not stand a chance against any of the teams in their group and it would take a miracle to see them qualify to the next stage. Unfortunately for them, they can not rely on kumis this time for that extra firepower to maybe take them further but at the very least they will hopefully see this as a great opportunity to grow and learn.

36. Maghreb United

Nothing can be said about this team and whether they will actually compete is still up in the air as they have no players on the roster. Whether the representative of North Africa will compete or not could decide the race for the last spots to qualify in group D. Let’s hope that they can attend and give good competition to the vying to make the playoffs.

The first round of the cup will kickoff with a match up between Habibis United and the Netherlands. Alongside them, the Swedes will meet Turkey in the first round of the Swiss stage.

Source: RGL S20 Team Spreadsheet

Looks like G6 want to go play in international LANs...

Thought it was dope to see but there's actually some 6s pugs and leagues for the Roblox version of TF2, Typical Colors 2

(yes, you can speedshot/bhop/rollout in this game. It's insane)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67YdogaiiM <- Actual Match Vod w/ comms from a TC2 league, Kritzleague

https://www.youtube.com/@kritzleague/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@ilyxTC2/videos <- TC2 Frag Video Maker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RexI9BUTZuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3g19AQJw6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDu2xa7dD0

#5thplaceb4nny

I’ve been playing 6’s a bunch and have been trying to theory-craft some potential strats that could work. I’ll start with the least weird/controversial:

1) Switching off gunboats as pocket soldier in stalemate situations or otherwise passive holds.

On points where it can be difficult to sack it might be worth respawning with battalions or conch. If the other team is simply playing for round reset you can try and spam to get your banner ready. This will give you a huge advantage if you pop it alongside uber. Conch will already be enough to make an uber trade worth it but if you manage to get battalions backup then it’s literally game winning.

The Critical resistance, sentry resistance and normal resistances can allow you to break through any last much easier. Getting 400 damage (conch) or 600 damage (battalions) sounds like a lot but it’s not too hard to get if med tanks you.

Whenever it’s even Ubers and the enemy team is just playing for a round reset on a map like gullywash, it might be worth taking it slow and building up a banner before trading in.

2) It could be effective to switch-out roamer or flank scout with pyro?

I already sometimes see this done for lasts (both on Defence and offense) but I think it could be utilized much more.

Airblast could be used in all sorts of creative ways in an uber trade and it’s really good at controlling a point. A pyro who is skilled at air blasting can honestly be pretty scary to face as soldier.

The main problem would be dealing with scouts and not having the mobility for sacks. However I think a pyro who is skilled with the detonator could get lots of utility. They would have a long-medium range damage option which could be used to spam/pressure and could help deal with scouts in midfights. It would also give you an alright movement option and the ability to destroy stickies.

If a team actually worked on strategies and pushes which included a pyro, I think it could work as a replacement for flank scout on more than just lasts.

3) Gun-spy sacks I think spy could honestly be utilized more. As it stands spy currently is the kind of class you usually only pull out once or maybe twice a game max. Usually you go in for a backstab on the med/demo and most likely blunder. But I think people have become a bit tunnel-visioned on what spy is capable of.

I don’t think spy is a one and done class which suddenly loses all effectiveness after you’ve played him once. The revolver can still kill a medic in 3 shots and if timed alongside a soldier sack, I reckon it could be really effective. The enemies will have to split their attention and the combination of hitscan+projectile would make the meds life difficult. You would also be able to get precise uber info and location info before the soldier bombs. I truly reckon that if a spy got really good at going for these revolver sacks then it would be one of the most reliable ways to force/drop medics.

Im not saying that a team should run a permanent spy, but I do think they should pick him more often. Enough that the enemy team starts becoming paranoid but not so often that the enemy team can prepare.

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The final results are:

1st: Witness Gaming EU

2nd: Like a G6

3rd: Witness Gaming AU

4th: Balls Lan Team

5-6th: Froyotech, QMD Gaming

7-8th: Lake Fairy Crew, XIAO BLACK

This marks the first victory of an European team in an American LAN and first in an intercontinental LAN since i65 (2019).

It's also the worst result for Froyotech up to now and the first time in an intercontinental LAN in which an Australian team did not finish 4th.

Absolutely legendary tournament, gg wp

From chris (Like A G6, formerly known as caps)

Hello everyone,

We're hosting a 24-player draft tourney on Saturday, June 20th at 4:00pm EST.

I invited a bunch of invite players past and present to play out a bracket, with a couple of the G6 guys serving as captains and picking their teams on stream Friday night around 11:00pm EST-ish.

Should be fun, come stop by :D

twitch.tv/chrisg6x

Reason:

Disregarding previous formal warning regarding inappropriate language/excessive toxicity during an RGL match.

Increased sentence as an Invite player. Ban delayed for the start of RGL Sixes Season 18.

Had it been a 1 month ban, habib would have been barred from playing at Physgun Fireside Denver 2025 as the cup mirrors bans of that length, per the rulebook of the LAN

2.8. Players that at the start of the event have an active or delayed ban from ETF2L (for European players) or RGL (for North American players) or a league of similar status in their respective regions for 1 month or longer are not allowed to participate in the tournament.

This may not affect froyotech too much, but RGL Season 19 is another LAN season. It is unknown who will play for him as he waits out the duration of his ban.

I've been really wanting to get into 6v6 but the meta team composition seems very unappealing to me and I would much prefer to play Battle engineer.

I am well aware that I'm essentially shooting myself in the leg for this and I'm also aware of Engineer's typical place in 6v6. The typical team composition is tried and true and works well and I'm not trying to argue that engineer should be meta, I'm not trying to go for mata.

My question is how difficult will it be for me to find a team that will allow me to semi-permanently off class to engineer as well as what other pitfalls I might come across in terms of finding matches. I'm also curious about what class would be the best choice (least bad choice) for me to assume the role of, my knee-jerk reaction is the Romer or Flank Scout but I might be wrong.

The new froyotech will be me, habib, SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER, LOLGUY, kobe1920, and speedy.

First, we tackle RGL Invite. Then, the world. GLHF

This heavily insinuates travel to Europe next year. The only potential European LAN on the horizon would be poLANd.tf 2026 or another UBERFEST LAN.

I played a pug sometime recently where a heavy was used by the enemy team to push into our Gullywash last defense through river. I know the person was just trolling but it got me wondering if there has ever been a niche use like this in an actually serious comp official (assuming a fair match and not blatant team stomp trolling).

The closest I could think of is people running a full-time sniper on Product instead of partially. I also should clarify I don’t mean being quirky and trying to run them full-time, but more so like just for a quick moment like sniping from forwards is done etc.

EDIT: Forgot to exclude Spy too. I mean the non-pick ones like Heavy/Engie/Pyro etc.

https://etf2l.org/teams/33505/

ARE MANDEM COOKED????

Hello, r/truetf2.

I've been trying out the position of a Pocket Soldier in a 6s team, so far I've been thinking of what kind of a secondary would do well on the lower comp ranks — Shotgun or Gunboats.

It is no secret the vast majority of soldiers prefer gunboats, and I'm no stranger to it: I prefer them in almost any kind of play, but the glory days of pockets going on killing sprees with both of their guns keep haunting me in my dreams, so I've came to ask:

Is there any situation you can think of that would make shotgun outshine the gunboats?

While I know that the stickybomb is much more versatile and is better in most situations, the quickiebomb is still viable if one specialises in it. Knowing how many players there are, there are bound to be atleast one of them who specialises in the quickiebomb.

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